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That, my friends, is what is so wrong with hunting today. The epitome of society's big-buck-itis as propentiated by televised hunting shows boasting nothing but trophy animals, and how anything that falls under a proposed, objective numbers should be judged as substandard.

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I was at my uncles cabin a few years ago and deer hunting came up with his neighbor. He tells me of these 2 bucks that he has mounted and I should come see them. Well they were both giants, asked him where he got them and sais some state, I ask him high fence right. Seems no one called him on his high fence hunts in a while. I told him all take a 100 inch public land deer any day!

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Spent the fall driving thru a highfence to get to deer camp in ND. Some beasts in there that's for sure. It only bothers me if they call it hunting. It's just killing. Pretty neat to see how big they get with extra nutrition and no predation. I'm sure the extra wieght on the head is no biggy.

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Spent the fall driving thru a highfence to get to deer camp in ND. Some beasts in there that's for sure. It only bothers me if they call it hunting. It's just killing. Pretty neat to see how big they get with extra nutrition and no predation. I'm sure the extra wieght on the head is no biggy.

I've seen video of this buck online, and I can tell you, this deer was in extreme pain and could barely hold his head up. His rack grew so fast and was so heavy that despite the muscle in his neck that when he walked his head was barely above ground, and he didn't move his head left or right. You couldn't pay me to hunt genetically altered deer. The "scientists" (and I use the term loosely) should be ashamed of themselves. When is enough really enough? Just my .02

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The "scientists" (and I use the term loosely) should be ashamed of themselves. When is enough really enough? Just my .02

I call it the "Pamela Anderson theory" if you don't like what God made.

Just blow them up some more! laugh

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Muskieman is 100% right! I would rather shoot a doe of public land than shoot a fenced deer. For a guy to brag that much about shooting a fenced deer??? I bet he has some real "shortcomings"!!!! Disgusting-why not go shoot cows? They taste better.

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hahaha wow hunt? naw all I need is a gun and my casual clothes and I'll be within 5 feet of this deer its been raised fenced in and obviously around a caretaker, sure yea its big and huge and if I ever saw one in the woods sure yea but Id laugh and wonder how it escaped, hunting is hunting we hunt trophy racks and some just raise trophy racks for fun, kind of like the what if and how it would look basickly If ever I did get him one day on public land somehow Id just be like well how the heck did he get out? it be more like just that deer that everyone wish they had but yet I dont care since I kno it escaped so whats there to brag about? you wanna claim u shot him? wanna keep the rack? sure go ahead just let me have the meat, but then again strange things do happen and he could have been wild his whole life if so Id just have him checked out somehow and get the approval that he was wild his entire life

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As long as there are people who call themselves hunters and will pay for these deer, then more will raise them.

About 10 years ago I shot a B&C whitetail and another fellow offered me $2,ooo for the rack. I suppose that was going to go in a place where he could have bragged about his big kill. I doubt he would have ever said he bought it if I had sold it to him.

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Wow Harvey, in 1985 I shot a huge 12pt, I was 14 years old and my dad and I were shocked to find a guy in my deer stand when we returned with rope/knife/etc. He said he got lost and that he was from White Bear Lake and offered me 300 dollars for the deer, you brought back a memory Harvey I had totally forgotten about, my dad said what I said sorry but ah no thanks and take that trail east and you'll get out of this swamp, to this day where and how and wow how'd he find that area so deep in a major jungle, he added I saw it laying over there etc. I'm maybe lucky the rack was still on it's head. Very bizarre for 1985.

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Spent the fall driving thru a highfence to get to deer camp in ND. Some beasts in there that's for sure. It only bothers me if they call it hunting. It's just killing. Pretty neat to see how big they get with extra nutrition and no predation. I'm sure the extra wieght on the head is no biggy.

Ive checked some of the deer farming forums for nutrition information etc. I would say when it comes to those 300"+ bucks, 90% of the time they have to cut them off in the late summer because they cannot support that kind of weight! It IS a health issue for those deer. Its sad.

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Quote.... Ive checked some of the deer farming forums for nutrition information etc. I would say when it comes to those 300"+ bucks, 90% of the time they have to cut them off in the late summer because they cannot support that kind of weight! It IS a health issue for those deer. Its sad. .......

Sorry, I just don't worry about them not being healthy. PETA would be all over the issue if that was the case. The racks probably get cut off for safety reasons if some of the bucks are kept together. 230 is the biggest on the ranch we need to drive thru and he holds his head up just fine. What's another 100 inches? 10 pounds? High fence killing is not for me that's for sure but it's a legal business and being the capitalist that I am I have no problem with it other than it should not be called hunting. Maybe the video you saw was when he was in full velvet? They do tend to look a little under the weather then. Here's the 230 breeder buck from the place. Beaut of a buck. I'm pretty sure the buck in your story is " Stickers " from Texas. Very awesome animal.

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That, my friends, is what is so wrong with hunting today. The epitome of society's big-buck-itis as propentiated by televised hunting shows boasting nothing but trophy animals, and how anything that falls under a proposed, objective numbers should be judged as substandard.

AMEN!!

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Both of those bucks are incredible. Would hope that they are just used for breeding and not sold for "hunting". There is a guy here in Central MN that raises and sells Elk "hunts". Unbelievable what people will pay for that "hunt". I just don't see it as hunting in any way, shape or form. For me, when you go hunting, you are doing something that doesn't have a predetermined result. Thats part of what makes hunting great to me, trying to put myself in a position to get the desired result I am trying to attain. I see no fun in going out to the woods, to shoot an animal that you might have already picked out, like a steak in the butcher shop. You already know the outcome.

For the first time in 32 years of deer hunting, I shot a wall hanger this year on public land. It is only a 140 inch deer, but under the given circumstances, the score doesn't really matter. It the culmination of the total experience that makes "the hunt".

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Both of those bucks are incredible. Would hope that they are just used for breeding and not sold for "hunting". There is a guy here in Central MN that raises and sells Elk "hunts". Unbelievable what people will pay for that "hunt". I just don't see it as hunting in any way, shape or form. For me, when you go hunting, you are doing something that doesn't have a predetermined result. Thats part of what makes hunting great to me, trying to put myself in a position to get the desired result I am trying to attain. I see no fun in going out to the woods, to shoot an animal that you might have already picked out, like a steak in the butcher shop. You already know the outcome.

For the first time in 32 years of deer hunting, I shot a wall hanger this year on public land. It is only a 140 inch deer, but under the given circumstances, the score doesn't really matter. It the culmination of the total experience that makes "the hunt".

yes indeed, that's why we call it hunting. :>) high fence is killing. but it's legal. 15G for a 230 class deer. Sheesh! Some folks sure have a lotta loot.

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A 230 or 300 inch deer may be fine... understand some of these farmed deer are around the 500" INCH mark now and they are sawed because the deer are uncapable of supporting the weight! Its crazy! its like geneticly altered plants.... growing an apple so big it breaks the tree down!

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That's why seeing mounts today becomes more more less meaningful, same as the deer hunting shows, you have no clue what you are looking at, now your neighbor drops a big one and you see it that means something anyway, not the hundreds you see at cabela's, those are there to get you to spend money on product. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Talks sings ACDC

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