vister Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 so there i was, taking my stroll around the property line where my fiance hunts looking for rubs and scrapes. well, as of lately, i have been dealing with the neighbors "borrowing" our property for a place to drive their atvs while erecting and moving their deer stands. they have been setting out scrape drippers, mineral blocks, scent wicks of various sorts on our property, about 40 feet inside the property line, while their bow stands are conveniently hanging in their property, 10 ft across the line. despite posting the property a few weeks ago to deter them, we got a few inches of snow a few days back, and they had been walking all over our property! in and out of the woods, around the edges, you name it, they walked around it. it is an 80 acre parcel by the way. now i've had it! i know they saw the signs, from their stands, i placed a sign directly in front of each one! this morning, no one was home when i went to say, kindly, need i remind you, to STAY OUT! do you be kind to them, after they have trespassed even after posting it. they have to know, that i know they are trespassing. I'd also like to thank them for the scrape drippers and mineral blocks, they will come in handy. here's the kicker, what would you do with finding this on the property line. this pic was taken this morning. we sure as hell dont want to get fined for it being there! up until now, we've never been jerk-baits to the neighbor, because hes got 120 acres of prime pheasant property, the stuff that butts up to our 80, and he lets us hunt it. but, now i'm done being mr nice guy. for the record, the nearest corn field is over 3/4 mile away!! one of the neighbors portable stands was located 13 paces from this pic!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacobMHD Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 TIP 1 800 652 9093Enough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticknstring Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'd hate to have turmoil between the neighbors especially with land that you hunt but if you don't do anything and you continue to hunt your property within a 1/4 mile, I'd say your just as guilty. I'd take a pic (which you did) and call the local CO asap. He'll check it out and you can remain anonymous to some degree. They'll get the msg about trespassing and baiting in one hard lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex1 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I have to agree, better to report it now rather than trrying to explain it to the warden if he would happen to check you during the gun season and find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 TIP 1 800 652 9093Enough said. I second this option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vister Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 thats the thing, i'd love to see him get pinched, as he is kind of an a-hole in the first place. they are also the neighbors that make it hard for us to do QDM, as they live and breath its brown its down. now, they know who posted the property, so turning them in for their "corn crop" would result in us no longer getting to hunt for birds there. but, my dad an i agreed that the hell with it. we ask for permission every time we enter his land, whether hunting or tracking in it. if he cant do the same, game over! i guess we'll just pheasant hunt elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetah Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Maybe he figures that since they gave you permission to pheasant hunt their land, they should be allowed to deer hunt your land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picksbigwagon Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Continue positive communication with the land owner.....keep the stuff they left on your land, and let the land owner know that you have it. If the guys who put it out want it back, they can come talk to you after the deer season......clean up the corn, the best you can and let your neighbor know the next time you are calling the DNR for tresspassing and littering on your land. Be the bigger person here, allow them to fix it, the owner lets you hunt his land for birds and I would bet, the people tresspassing and littering figure turn around is fair play, but have no idea you call and ask permission every time. That owner needs to reign in his party a little bit. Maybe he is not sure how upset you are about this or that his crew is acting like this. If your neighbor is a dink about it, let it go and next time call the DNR. Sometimes it is really hard to be the grown up when dealing with kids..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy4371 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I totally agree with PBW on this one. Talk with the land owner. My guess is that the people that are doing this is not him and he probally does not even know that it is happening. It is easier to be the bigger person and take the first step in the right direction and if that does not work then get the CO involved. I have a feeling that things would change if the property owner know that you know what is going on and talks to him and maybe he will goot some of the people hunting his property. You must have some kind of OK releationship with him if he lets u hunt his land for birds. Just say "Hey we try to work with you and ask permission and we just want the same respect in return".Let us know how it turns out. I am hoping for the best.Froggy 4371 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double D Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 If you are talking to him anyhow, it might not be a bad idea to ask him to move the stand off the line too.DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnesotahusker Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 You could wait until you notice that they're in their stands and walk out to the area if you're done hunting for the season and blowing the air horns that boats are supposed to have on them for signaling for help. I know that would steam me up pretty bad, assuming you've tried all other routes of communication to fix the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLOVEit Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I would wait until the opening morning of deer season. Then call the CO and have him come with you to the intruder's stand to witness all the illegal stuff. That's one way to teach people how to respect other's things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vister Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 i'd like to return the favor by being a dink about it, but in all actuality, the hardest thing about deer hunting is trying to get along with the neighbors, as deer hunting brings the worst out in people about being on their land! the guy knows were good people about things, and good property neighbors. but he also knows we ask for permission every time we enter his property. not just once at the beginning of the year. my dad put it good in a humorous way. "we dont go to his yard everytime it rains in the spring to pick up nightcrawlers!" the guy even made a comment last fall about how he saw a trail camera in the woods while walking around. we told him we didn't want him in there, and we weren't going to post the land, because we feel people look like a-holes when land is posted to the moon. i think the only reason he fessed up about seeing the camera, was he wanted to let us know he was in there before we saw him on film! now that its posted, and they're still goin in there, i have a feeling that today, that i may turn into an a-hole as well, if he's home! what part of NO TRESPASSING, HUNTING, FISHING, TRAPPING, of any sort is strictly prohibited and punishable by law, is so hard to understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivebucks Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 It's a tough call in my book whether to call the CO or talk to them. As of right now you could get pinched opening deer for baiting if you just talk to the neighbor. If you call the CO you've got your butt covered. Personally, I would not want to take any chance of getting my license suspended for future years. I would probably talk to the neighbor and see his reaction. If he denies they put the corn there then by all means I would call the CO. If he fesses up about it then you have a judgement call to make. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbs Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 just remember that it is also baiting if you shoot a deer that is going to the bait. That is how I was told by a co a few years ago. If you call the CO you will have to have the corn cleaned up so many days before the season or you can't hunt the spot. I feel for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 its ten days after the baiting area is cleaned up so I would still call the CO and ask his opion on the matter. You never know the neighbor may be setting you up I doubt it but I've seen crazy stuff go on during deer hunting. Rbs is right just knowing that there is a bait staion there could get you in trouble. hope you can resolve this and still have a peace hunt and a good time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSKY18 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I would just go over and cut down the trees that have the stands in them for firewood. He seems to want to feed himself off your land, you might as well keep yourself warm off his!!! J/KWith that baiting they are doing, I wouldn't hesitate to get the CO involved. Even if not turning the neighbors in, to get clarification about the baiting and get it documented so if something arises in the future, you have your backside covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 What does the local Sheriff tell you you should do? I'd follow their lead to a "T" and you'll have an official report to verify your or their involvment in the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat-Run Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'd call the CO to cover your bbbbbbuuuuuuttttttt because you will get pinched for something you didn't do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Clean up the corn. Tell the neighbor, "The CO knows about the corn. He allowed me to clean up what was on my land, but I am not allowed to hunt deer on my own property for 10 days. He said he would be back to check on the area. Thanks." Than go hunting ...hopefully your neighbors will hunt somewhere else and you'll have great hunting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawdog Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 If you don't want to call the CO, you could always do what a good friend of mine did in a similar situation and invest in a huge junk of dime store perfume to poor all over each of their stands. That ought to take care of their hunting for the foreseeable future... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picksbigwagon Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 After taking time this afternoon on the drive home, I do think you should contact the CO and see what he says about the food and if you can clean it up and still hunt it....My first post is still how I feel on how to handle it with your neighbor. I think get into pulling pranks and trying to "get them back" could be something that you will regret in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJH Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'd talk to him. Thank him for letting you guys hunt pheasants, but let him know what he's doing on your property isn't going to work. Then clean it up and go from there.If he makes a big deal out of it, then you pursue the CO/Sheriff option.He probably thinks the border of your property should be flexible to him, since he lets you hunt Roosters. That being, let it be known that the other stuff going on won't be tolerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96trigger Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I would tell the land owner that he has to have whoever is hunting clean up the corn in the next 24 hours. It has to be cleaned up to my standards or I am calling the CO. Every cob, every kernal. If it were my land, I would be very neighborly and tell him that I didn't care who he let on his land, but they were encroaching/trespassing on mine, and their ILLEGAL activity so close to the property line could make the land I hunt baited also. That to me, is a reasonable request. You are not judging him as a person, just trying to protect your own but, if he can't figure that out, I think you need to call the CO and get advice from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Miller Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Im with Jameson except I would go visit him and walk him out there and show him. Tell him that needs to be removed immediately. Inform him that he ruined your hunt and the CO is aware of it. Then watch him squirm. I think giving him 24 hours is plenty neighborly enough! Go out there the next day and if its still there, call the CO. Cover your butt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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