cavalierowner Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I have to replace my existing double wall oven. There is 12" from the floor to the bottom of the cut-out. I need a good idea for getting the old oven down to the floor and the new double oven from the floor up to the cut-out mostly by myself. I thought about a pallet jack, but the rental one only lifts to 7.4". The new oven weighs 224# and I assume the old one is about the same. I can lose a few pounds by taking the doors off, but I don't imagine that's an awful lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddog Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Build a makeshift box that will set on top of a 4 wheeled cart. Wheel it up to the existing opening and slide the old unit out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wettschreck Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Do you have a sheet rock hoist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surface Tension Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Floor jack, transmission jack, ATV/snowmobile lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavalierowner Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 I think a sheetrock lift is going to be too big of a footprint; and I doubt it has the capacity with those flimsy little wire "arms".I am thinking about some kind of platform, but I have to get the old oven off and the new oven on the platform. Maybe a ramp made from a couple 2x4's??Hmmm, maybe a couple floor jacks with a plywood platform?? I can get 225# up a few inches by tipping and sliding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom7227 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 What did you pay for the oven? Are you prepared to spend that amount again when you drop it and wreck it?Assuming you can even get it in place does it attach to some sort of bracket that you've put up beforehand?Sometimes some things just aren't DIY. One guy can't move 224 lbs from the floor to even waist high much less jack around putting the thing onto a wall. Call the outfit you bought it from and ask them to have someone install it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleFloyd Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Call a friend. Use 2 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavalierowner Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 What did you pay for the oven? Are you prepared to spend that amount again when you drop it and wreck it?Assuming you can even get it in place does it attach to some sort of bracket that you've put up beforehand?Sometimes some things just aren't DIY. One guy can't move 224 lbs from the floor to even waist high much less jack around putting the thing onto a wall. Call the outfit you bought it from and ask them to have someone install it for you. That's what I may have to do if I can't figure out a reasonably safe way to do it. The thing that really bugs me is that I installed the original one myself, but I can't remember how I got it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Seaguar Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Some things you end up paying someone to do and you never worry about the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavalierowner Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Some things you end up paying someone to do and you never worry about the cost. I'm always thinking about cost now that I'm retired and on a fixed income. Besides, I've always been a big DIY guy starting in 1979/1980 when I built my own house from the top of the foundation and up.I am going to see what kind of costs are involved in hiring the installation. But it just makes my teeth itch when I know how easy it is once the oven is in place LOL; just a simple electrical connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Deep Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 First go fishing, then invite your friends to a work party culminating in a fish fry. On a more serious note I agree that some jobs are for professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rundrave Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 forearm forklift? Pretty cheap and they worked great for my wife and I when we moved and for those 2 man jobs I refuse help on and do by myself. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofishfisherman Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 But it just makes my teeth itch when I know how easy it is once the oven is in place LOL; just a simple electrical connection. The last part of the job might be a piece of cake but in this case its really only that last 5% of the job, the other 95% is getting the old one out and the new one into place.What are you doing with the old one? If you bring someone in to do the job they'll likely haul away the old one as well which could save you from havnig to dispose of it. A small added advantage.If you are really set on doing it yourself (something I understand and am guilty of far too often) here is the plan that I'd use myself.1. Go get a case of beer, maybe 22. Invite a couple friends over3. Drink a beer while discussing the plan of action4. Drink another beer while you debate which of the plans you'll go with and who will fill each roll in the plan5. Go to the bathroom6. Wrestle the first one out while cursing under your breath incase there is a small child in the vacinity7. Lift the old one down about 3/4 of the way and then yell at the guy who let go to early causing the thing to drop the last 1/4.8. Drink a beer as a reward for half a job well done.9. Drink another beer while you rethink your plan because the first part of the plan was way harder than you thought.10. Wrestle the new one into place on the 3rd try11. Drink another victory beer.12. Lower the new one and raise it back into place after you realize you forgot to install a bracket, or wire, or something else that slipped your mind.13. Drink another victory beer.14. Go to the bathroom15. Repair the damage to walls caused by lifting something that is way too heavy.16. Take 4 ibuprophen for the back injury you sustained in the process17. Live in debt to your friends until they find an equally miserable task that they need help with at their house, then start over again at step 1 on their project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavalierowner Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 The last part of the job might be a piece of cake but in this case its really only that last 5% of the job, the other 95% is getting the old one out and the new one into place.What are you doing with the old one? If you bring someone in to do the job they'll likely haul away the old one as well which could save you from havnig to dispose of it. A small added advantage.If you are really set on doing it yourself (something I understand and am guilty of far too often) here is the plan that I'd use myself.1. Go get a case of beer, maybe 22. Invite a couple friends over3. Drink a beer while discussing the plan of action4. Drink another beer while you debate which of the plans you'll go with and who will fill each roll in the plan5. Go to the bathroom6. Wrestle the first one out while cursing under your breath incase there is a small child in the vacinity7. Lift the old one down about 3/4 of the way and then yell at the guy who let go to early causing the thing to drop the last 1/4.8. Drink a beer as a reward for half a job well done.9. Drink another beer while you rethink your plan because the first part of the plan was way harder than you thought.10. Wrestle the new one into place on the 3rd try11. Drink another victory beer.12. Lower the new one and raise it back into place after you realize you forgot to install a bracket, or wire, or something else that slipped your mind.13. Drink another victory beer.14. Go to the bathroom15. Repair the damage to walls caused by lifting something that is way too heavy.16. Take 4 ibuprophen for the back injury you sustained in the process17. Live in debt to your friends until they find an equally miserable task that they need help with at their house, then start over again at step 1 on their project. LOL! If I go in that order, I'm in trouble after about Step 3! Actually, I got free delivery and removal of the old oven. They had to special order it, so I have about 2-1/2 weeks to come up with a good plan. They wanted $300 to install, so I'm going to at least give it a try. Hey, what could possibly go wrong?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surface Tension Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Seriously, too much over thinking. Get a buddy or a son and lift it up and slide it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkedAgain Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I've drawn up a plan for how to get it done: Let me know if you have any procedural questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavalierowner Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 LOL!! Now there you go. I KNEW someone would come up with the obvious answer. It's so simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxMN Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Dual exhaust! Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavalierowner Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 SkunkedAgain, I see you're in construction. I should have known it would take a contractor to help out a lowly (but retired!) architect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkedAgain Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm certainly not an aspiring artist. Happy to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleFloyd Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I've drawn up a plan for how to get it done: Let me know if you have any procedural questions OK, That one made me LOL. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ufatz Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 What!!! Three-hundred dollars to install a stinking oven?! Was the guy wearing a mask when he quoted that. I agree you should have somebody put it in for you but am willing to bet you can find an outfit that will do it for a whole lot less then that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavalierowner Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 What!!! Three-hundred dollars to install a stinking oven?! Was the guy wearing a mask when he quoted that. I agree you should have somebody put it in for you but am willing to bet you can find an outfit that will do it for a whole lot less then that!! After a little checking, I can get it for maybe $200. That's still a lot of money, especially now that I'm retired; money that would be better spent on ice fishing! That's why this bugs me so much, there just isn't anything to it once it's in the hole. I've talked to a neighbor and we are pretty sure we can get it in place without too much trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofishfisherman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Just make sure to bring the beer and follow my earlier plan exactly. If you do it right you won't even remember it in the morning.If that fails I would look into that Acme Oven Lift 9000. I wonder if they rent by the hour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavalierowner Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Just make sure to bring the beer and follow my earlier plan exactly. If you do it right you won't even remember it in the morning.If that fails I would look into that Acme Oven Lift 9000. I wonder if they rent by the hour? I'm sure they would rent by the hour...machine and operator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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