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FISHINGURU Grand Master

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Palmer or Fitzpatrick sure would have been nice additions.

Oh wait, Cassel is just like them. Sorry to break it to you guys but Cassel was just a tool with equal skills to try and get Ponder to step his game up. I do think our passing game would be better with Cassel though, Ponder shouldn't be looking like a deer in the headlights after all these starts.

If a guy like Palmer or Fitz came in they would of beat out Ponder in camp and that's not something the coaches wanted.

Ponder pretty much gave that game away by throwing that stupid INT when we were about to score again and bury them. That decision was like a guy in his first game would make.

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Ponder pretty much gave that game away by throwing that stupid INT when we were about to score again and bury them. That decision was like a guy in his first game would make.

Manning cost the Broncos the season last year with a similar play. Favre did the same in the NFC championship game. It happens, even to some of the game's all time greats.

BUT, I tend to agree that the coaching staff may not have really wanted a lot of challenge for him this year. I still believe he can be serviceable as a quarterback for us, but there were so many glaring issues in game 1 that I have a lot of concerns overall if it is even worth it. LB = terrible. O - Line = worse than terrible.

Hopefully they will all come ready to play. Cannot go down 0-2 to division opponents and have hopes to win the division. Granted they are both on the road, but...

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Bobby Bass Grand Master

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I'm just not seeing it from Ponder, no improvement in his game, still making stupid mental mistakes with the ball. Does not have the arm to fling it and get luckly. Play calling is still and will continue to be predictable. My time will be better spent on Sundays fishing and just come home to watch AD's highlights on TV

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ponder sure appears to be the wrong answer and hope to see cassel given a shot soon. funny thing about the favre references is many have apparently forgot about 2010 when the o line was also not so strong. few qbs can do much behind a weak line. btw I dont think ponder can do enough behind a strong o line either but think in addition to qb this team has some holes to fill.

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The "unknown" is always more appealing when the "known" is this bad.

It's not an unknown that Cassel is about as "talented" as Ponder is, but without the ability to run very fast. The only "unknown" we have in MN is MBT.

I don't like the QB sitch here one bit... nope. Be nice if our O-line shows up next week to at least give AP a chance to run... and maybe give our terrified QB a little time to throw before he wets himself.

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Any way I look at it, we are basically hosed for the season... doesnt matter which of the 3 they put in.

We have Cassel with experience and his own problems, we have Ponder who has tried and tried and its clear where thats going(nowhere), and a 3rd string QB that is probably at best a long shot.....

Poor AP is wasting away the best years of his life on a team that has no possibility in contending for the foreseeable future.... again....

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Any way I look at it, we are basically hosed for the season... doesnt matter which of the 3 they put in.

We have Cassel with experience and his own problems, we have Ponder who has tried and tried and its clear where thats going(nowhere), and a 3rd string QB that is probably at best a long shot.....

Agreed, this is why I was saying that if Ponder is yanked, throw MBT in there. IMO its a lost season at that point and you REALLY need to know what you have in QB options. You pretty much know what you have in the other two. This would determine direction for the draft or FA.
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Jeesh guys, it must have took a lot of restraint to wait until the preseason was over before declaring this a lost season. I agree Ponder hasn't shown nearly enough improvement and in many respects appears to be regressing. But we're only 1 game in, a lot can happen. Can we at least wait until the Bye Week to write this season off?

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Jeesh guys, it must have took a lot of restraint to wait until the preseason was over before declaring this a lost season. I agree Ponder hasn't shown nearly enough improvement and in many respects appears to be regressing. But we're only 1 game in, a lot can happen. Can we at least wait until the Bye Week to write this season off?

if you are referring to me, areas my post more closely. I said its a lost season IF they have to replace Ponder. Not that it is right now. They won't yank him before the bye IMO. So my thinking would align directly with you but I honestly don't want to see Cassel in there. I don't think he gives us anything better.
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