ikeslayer Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 This buck was shot in WI, i got the pic from another site. It is pretty graphic and i am sure PETA will have a hayday with it. I am sure you hunters will enjoy. Not an image you get to see every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deitz Dittrich Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Very cool pict. I am a bit sceptical of it being photoshopped. IF you look at the deer you can see reflections of light through it where they should may be light through the trees behind it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikeslayer Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 yeah i thought the same thing but even if it is photoshoped pretty sweet either way. i have been told however that getting a double image like that is due to a slow shutter speed. ike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishin58 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 That is exactly what I would say too Ike, about the slow shutter speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deitz Dittrich Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 If its slow shutter speed, the deer would be blurry? I know on my trail camera, if the deer are moving at any speed at all, they are blurry. But thats my camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Foss Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 If you set your flash to 2nd-curtain shutter synchronization on an SLR camera you can get effects similar to this. I have a number of times. Not sure about trail cams.However, there's no tension in the animal, as there would be if this was shot immediately post-impact. Also, do you get that much blood at the entry point the instant after impact? Remove the background from your mind's eye for a moment and change the perspective and what this really looks like to me is someone took a shot of the dead deer lying on the ground and superimposed it against the current background.Just IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96trigger Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 My trail camera does that when its cold. I get a "ghost image" its not uncommon. What it looks like to me is that someone shot a buck and it ran in front of his trail camera, but that doesn't explain the jump in the air. I don't know if I've ever seen a buck do that when its hit. I do know this, it would be darn hard, and just plain lucky, to get that picture on film. It's still kind of a cool pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I have seen this pic around too, everyone likes to yell photoshop but is not the case. A lot of digital cameras have a slower shutter speed like stated earlier, the deer was moving so the light from the tree appears visible through the deer. Anyone with a little photoshop skill would actually make this photo look more real that what the game camera produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so haaad Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I agree with Steve, it looks like a picture of a dead deer that was superimposed on to the background. Also, the blood on the deer seems to defy gravity. The blood on the deer looks like it was from running after being shot, not an initial jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Foss Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 The ghosting actually is what makes this image look more real to me. I've seen the effect before. I'm starting to re-evaluate a bit on one other point. I didn't see the right side of the image initially because my screen cut it off, but looking closer at that, it appears there actually is some grain (cracked corn?) in the air. It's hard to tell that it's in the air instead of on the ground, but the ground grain is sharp, and the blurry look of some of the grain that might be in the air implies motion like if the buck leapt to do the heart-kick right from the pile of grain. I also don't like to automatically assume a compelling shot has been photoshopped. The deer still looks relaxed to me rather than in the midst of strenuous motion like the heart-kick (I've photographed a lot of running, jumping deer, all of which showed the strain in their muscles and pose), and that seems like a lot of blood for a broadhead entry point and in a strange configuration. I also see blood on the off foreleg, which implies an exit wound, but it looks like the arrow might be long enough to have that much sticking out the entry side and still allow the tip to protrude from the other side a bit. The grain in the air is what's making me lean a bit more toward an undoctored image, but I'm not leaning too hard in that direction. Still a few things that look unnatural to me. Still all just IMO, still up in the air for me (if you'll pardon the pun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96trigger Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 OK, I change my post and am going back to my original theory. Someone shot this buck and it took off running in front of the trail camera. How did the camera take the picture if it was running , because we all know about trigger speed? Well, look at the picture and you can see the back of the doe that set off the motion detector, the buck was right behind it, it took the picture of the buck, after the doe set it off. I say true pic, very lucky. I have my trail cams set up and could see this scenario happening. I always think of it the other way. I can see a picture getting taken of a deer I'm about to shoot, but I guess it could happen the other way to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishin58 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 The tail is up in the air, not too many dead deer can pull that off. I have seen many deer jump, I have also shot 1 buck that thought he was in a movie and reared back on his hind legs, like an old western steed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANYFISH Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 It looks authentic to me. The deer in the background also looks to be running, the flash "pattern" appears accurate, and the blood spray would indicate arterial spray or spray form the heart, which would be almost instantanous. Intresting photo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicada Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I haven't ween a lot of trail cam pictures. Would the eye be gray like that while it's still alive? I know they gloss over after death but aren't they dark while the critter is still kicking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broman Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Did you see this pic in the beer and bait store in Milltown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Foss Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Cicada, the eye is reflecting the flash, which it will do dead or alive. fishin58, I agree dead deer can't elevate their tails, but of course if it ran and fell over and died, the tail could easily have been elevated at that point and just stayed that way. I'm still on the fence. Good discussion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I shot a doe on the opening weekend of archery season with a rage 3 blade and had twice that amount of blood instantly come screaming out of the entry hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Foss Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Cool, hunter4life, that takes care of that point. Thanks for letting me know. My bow kills have so far been lung shots, and maybe that's why I didn't get that kind of instant blood. Or maybe not. Was yours a heart shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNice Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I saw this picture on a differnt site and I think the first time I saw it, it had no arrow. I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimoman Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 OK, I change my post and am going back to my original theory. Someone shot this buck and it took off running in front of the trail camera. How did the camera take the picture if it was running , because we all know about trigger speed? Well, look at the picture and you can see the back of the doe that set off the motion detector, the buck was right behind it, it took the picture of the buck, after the doe set it off. I say true pic, very lucky. I have my trail cams set up and could see this scenario happening. I always think of it the other way. I can see a picture getting taken of a deer I'm about to shoot, but I guess it could happen the other way to. How can you tell me that is a doe? All I see ia a leg and a tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96trigger Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Pretty simple, I don't see any nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Yes it was a heart shot. Quartering away at 25yds,lung and heart shot. I think it really had more to do with the size hole that the rage makes than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooter Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I didn't read all of Mr Foss's posts, as usual.... but other than maybe some corn in the air it looks like dirt kicked up from the front hooves. Cool pic whatever the case, and if real that buck was smoked. Either case its a believable pic, certainly could happen unless I'm missing something obvious. Is that more than 2 gallons of corn on the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogtosser Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 man, that deer is like 5 feet in the air. thats crazy, the arrow must have passed through some, you can see blood by the front right leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I understand the blood on the inside of the leg near the exit hole but not the blood on the entrance side. I have taken many deer with a bow and rarely have I ever seen that much blood on the entrance side of a arrow shot deer and still running.Looks like a heart lung shot deer and I also question that the flag would be up with a hit like that.I would also think the hind quarter muscles might be flexed a little for the landing and not so relaxed. To me, something just doesn't add up.The other thing I question is it does look like it was hit in the heart, lung area and that buck should have his mouth open and breathing hard as he runs gasping for air.If he is jumping, would his front feet not be ready for a landing and not tucked in? Also. why would his ears be dropped and the tail still up? If he is hit as hard as it looks, I would think that with the legs folded, ears dropped, that the flag would also be dropped.I don't like to question any pictures but this one I have to say it's questionable at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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