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Senko's vs. Senko look a likes


Captain B.R.K

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I have some real confidence in the Yamamoto Senko's when out on the water. After that, I'm having a real hard time grabbing anything but Senko's off the shelves in the local fishing departments!

I think the senko's have a faster fall than anything else on the market. BUT then again, what do I know being new in bassin'.

I'd like to know what you bass guys use and what your favorite senko's or senko look alikes are?

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i can't bring myself to spend that much for a plastic. i have been using the chompers brands with very good results( about $4 per10), but they are very soft and after one or two fi[PoorWordUsage]'s shot or gone. lately i have been using the triple X with great results and man do they last( $3 -$4 per 10 at walmart).

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So maybe I'm use to fishing fast with spinnerbaits, cranks etc. for bass. But when I fish senko's, I find that the plastic sinks faster than those others on the market.

Am I thinking to much, do they all sink at the same rate?!?

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I bought some YUM dingers the other day. Plan on trying them today in a spot i know has been getting fish with senkos. I just dont like how easily the senkos rip and tear. I think most ive done is two fish and then they are garbage. Especially in the lakes i fish that are covered in milfoil, the slop just rips them even more. I've got my fingers crossed that the immitation work just as good and are possibly more durable.

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i believe i saw somewhere an analysis of fall rate. senkos had the fastest. there was a competitor that was very close and the rest were a lot slower. I like the senkos for their fall rate and castability. their heavyness alows for a slow retrieve beneath water surface without a weight, something you can't do with the others. the slower fall/floating ones have a place on a carolina rig or texas rigged with a weight. just not on my weightless rigs.

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I'd be interested to see the that information carlcmc. My chief complain is the $$$ you sink into a 10pk of Yamamoto's.

I have confidence em' but am more than willing to find something else that others have confidence in other than the senko's.

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Cheek,

There are endless ways of rigging then. I hook them just like I would texas rigging, just without the weight. You can also wacky rig them, it just doesn't make them weedless. Let them fall, make 'em dart, what I tell people is to just be creative with them untill you find what is working.

BRK,

I have used many different types of nockoffs and the original senko as well. Yes the senko IMO does fall a little faster but I don't think that matters a ton to the fish when they are active. If you do want a faster fall rate with other senko type lures that fall slower, just add a split shot or two above the lure. I believe this is called the 'mojo rig' but could be mistaken.

I hear ya though when it comes to a confidence thing, if your getting fish on the senko its hard to switch! But I did so mainly because of the pricing.

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I just bought my first imitations after being loyal to the senkos since they came out. Long story short I think I'm going to stick to senkos. They get much heavier, fall faster, are more salty, and have a better action when twitched.

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rig it with a 4/0 or 5/0 EWG Gamakatsu hook weedless (hook point buried.) Use no weight. Then cast it to a fish location and watch it flutter down. I use high vis yellow power pro line so it is easier to watch my line. Many times you will see the line moving before you feel it. They will hold it in their mouth for a long time before spitting it out so don't be worried about having to set the hook the instant it goes in their mouth. In fact, with smaller bass, when I see them take it, I will wait 5-7 seconds and let them get it more in their mouth before setting the hook.

You can do the traditional hookset, but sometimes, I just real down until I feel their resitance and then pull back firmly. With braided line that is all that is required to set the hook. If you get nothing on the initial fall, you can: 1)bring back quickly on surface of the water (this is like a surface lure, and if it is going across the weeds you will occasionaly get blow ups on it) 2)use your reel to do 1/8,1/4,1/2 turns to make it do a walk the dog pattern beneath the surface 3) lift the rod tip and reel back until it is on the surface of the water and reel back 4-6 feet and then give it slack and let it flutter down again.

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For some reason I bought some Tiki Worms the other day and tried them out. I think I would have better luck Carolina rigging a Scum Frog. These things fall straight down vertically. I'll pay for the Senkos, they may be brittle, but that allows for excellent hook up percentage.

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This is an excellent question. I have some of the imitations as well but fishing is as much about confidence as anything. I have complete confidence in the Senko and when I have an imitation on I get out of my game. I mostly fish the 4" and some of the 5"ers. I notice someone posted using a # 4 or 5 hook. I use the owner # 2 and sometimes the #3. I guess all will work but again I go back to the confidence. I am confident in the smaller hooks so I have not when larger. I may have to add a few bigger hooks. I never have any problems with the hookset on the senko's. However I am recently struggled with the tube hooks so maybe I need larger hook or bigger gap.

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I use the EWG (Extra Wide Gap) Gammy hooks in size 2/0. I just rig the worm so that the point is burried so the lure stays weedless. Just remember by doing it this way you'll need a little stronger hook set than normal.

I normally reach for the senko's first but have tried the Yum brand with ok success. I say OK because I went out today and the bass were snappin' As soon as that worm settled, the line was movin one way while I was going the other......SET THE HOOK CApT-N!

But other than that, the Senko's seem to fish a bit faster than the immitations so that's why I pull them out first.

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I like the real senko rather than the fake ones. I don't like that little groove for the hook on the fakes and I don't think they wiggle as well as the real ones. I still rig it TX style 90% of the time. Just my .02. I know the $$ sucks.

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I'll second Deitz on the Comida! They seem to be as close to the senko as I've seen! Another real god one is the Case Plastics products, every decent smallie Ive caught this year has been on a Case plastic, the Comida has worked real well in the lakes for greenies but I havent given it much of a shot in the river yet

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I have been using Senkos for a long time and have the same complaints. On the way to the lake yesterday I bought a different type, along with the Senkos. On about the third cast with the differet brand I cought my largest bass so far, a little over 21 inches. I will always have Senkos in the boat but now have some confidence in a cheaper option. I will check the brand when I get home.

I think the big difference this past week has more to do with color then sink rate.

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I've got a healthy supply of Senkos but also have just as many Yum Dingers, Tiki Sticks and Chompers knock-offs. Even have knock-offs made by Culprit and Outkast Tackle. I have just as much confidence in the others as the Senko - in fact, at a recent tournament I picked up 5 keepers (almost 11 lbs.) with a Yum Dinger in 7-8 casts. They all work but confidence is definately a factor. Personally, I think aside from the action, color is the next biggest factor.

Just my opinion,,,,,

Daze Off

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Great words from everyone.....Dietz that's twice now I've heard about those Comida's yet I can't seem to find them anywhere.

AND what colors would you recommend when I do find them?

I'll continue to buy dif. brands and colors & just build confidence in em' them all.

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I used to by the Senko's but with there price being a little bit on the high side I've experimented and found I like the Exude Comida's or the Yum Dinger's. In a Black with Red Flake or in the Watermelon and Red Flake.

~Matt Jung

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Strike King 3X Zero. Green Pumpkin. I have caught 27 fish on one zero, that used up both ends, and I still did not use the middle portion for wacky rigging. They feel very soft and have enough weight to cast on a bait-casting rig. If you rig them on a HP hook (3/0) with a gremlin bull shot, this is a great bait for skipping docks with a spinning rig.

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