Empty 1# cannisters

[BDR]

Where do you all get rid of these? I went through some of my gear yesterday and I have about 75 empties to get rid of. I am sure the F.D> would appreciate me getting those out of my garage.

Thanks

[hanson]

75 Empties!! Holy smokes!!

I would like to add one thing in addition to disposing of the empties and that is disposing of the white plastic caps that come on top of the 1 pound tanks properly.

Please, DO NOT throw the white cap onto the lake, ice, snow, whatever!!

Fellow FMer 'halad' brought this to our attention this spring. I believe halad has a cabin or home on Upper Red Lake and was talking about shoveling up the little white caps off of his shoreline. Apparently it looked like snow all the way down the shoreline.

If you could imagine every single fisherperson on URL in a single night going through (1) 1 lb propane tank and throwing the white cap onto the ice! Yikes! Take that 1 night and multiply it by 100 plus days in the icefishing season and that amounts to a ton of garbage in the lake.

Food for thought everybody!

[18 inch Crappie]

They make a refill part. You can buy to fill a 1lb from a 20 lb. Menards carrys them about $15. Pays for itself after one winter of use. Otherwise the emptys make good targets for your 30-06.

[Enids Hubby]

In Hennepen county you can throw them in the garbage can as long as they are empty and valve removed . Use a schrader valve remover , like for a bike or car tire . Remove the valve next to the top threads . NOT the center valve . only take out valve when tank is run completly empty. and open valve slowly and remove . I let mine sit outside afterwards for a day or two before putting in the trash to make sure all propane is purged.

[BDR]

Thanks Enids!

[PikeTipper]

Has anyone tried refilling them? Is it easy to do?

[The Chemist]

I have a friend that refills them. He says it's not that hard to do.

[CrappieJohn]

Inside the city limits here in Rochester, we have a great lake that offers some dandy trout fishing. Of course with the winter fishing come shacks and portables....and heaters- many of which use these 1# jugs. They litter this place. I wish they had a five dollar deposit on them.

Incidently, I am in the process of organizing a clean up on the ice on Sunday January 2, 2005. Anyone from the area interested in lending a hand, feel free to e-mail me.

[fishing41]

So what do we do with the old-style 20# tanks? If I take the valve off, can I throw it in the garbage?

[hanson]

I think Menards still does a cylinder exchange on the old style non-OPD tanks. When I went to swap mine, they asked if it was a new style tank or an old. Something to check into.

[iffwalleyes]

fishing41 there are a lot of gas plants that will take the old tanks from you. They will recertifie them and put a new valve on them. They can do that for you otherwise they will take them and sell them.

[Lip RIPPER!]

The one pound canisters are very easy to refill. There has been a lot of debate about the safety factors involved with refilling them though. I refill mine all fo the time and haven't had a problem. The directions say to have the 20 pounder warm and the one pounder cold. Screw the one pound onto the 20 pounder and tip the whole thing upside for about one minute after opening the valve. If you are worried about overfilling, don't let it go that long. Mine feel like they are about 50 to 75 percent full after I am done.

[huskiesplayer15]

you can buy the refill adapter at sportsmens for about 12 bucks. We are sold out right now, we have been refilling them for about 5 years now.

Best Fishes

Chris

[CRAPPIEBAIT]

Yep,I've been refilling tanks for several years now & it's pretty gravey.I can't remember the lastime I had to buy a 1# tank.I figure it saves me more than $100.00 a season.

[Gissert]

Most landfill or transfer type stations will take them. I drop mine off at my local transfer station.

We use the refill adaptors in elk camp, and it works very well. This helps cut down on the gear we have to pack in. Just dont over-pressurize them.

I just use new ones during ice season. The transport of refilled one pounders is illegal, but I have never heard of anyone being tagged for this.

Good points on taking the plastic caps with you. The bottom of my tub had a LOT of them in it by the end of last season.

[freighttrain50]

hey crappie tom, pick them up and save them. the you can refill them. its a piece of cake. just hook up the tanks with the adapter, flip them over, open the valve and wait for the pressures to equalize. when it reaches an equalibrium between the pressures it stops. plus there is a safety valve on them. northern tool sells these adapters too. saves a ton of money.

Train

[burl]

Hello all,

whats the trick to getting them to not leak after they have been filled?Some seam to work ok,others have a small leak all the time.Seams like you have to keep them screwed on to something.Let me know if you have this figured out.Thanks.

[Gissert]

Sometimes they are just junk after the initial use.

They are cheaply made, and made for one use. If you have a leaker, discard it and try another one.

If you have one that does not leak after being refilled, they are usually good for several uses.

[Walleye Guy]

For $16 you can bring in your 20lb non-OPD tank to Menards and they will give you a full OPD 20lb tank.

[picksbigwagon]

Actually, go out on your land, build a big fire, round up an AR-15 or similar gun, a good scope and some tracer ammo, wait til dusk and fire away..........Notice I said your land, and then when the county forcloses on it because you are in prison, I can buy it for a song

[Jeremy airjer W]

I'm pretty sure its illegal to put a twenty pounder in the trash in ramsey and washington co. area, regardless if the valve is out or not. We just drop them off at hazardous waste disposal sites. I don't think there is a charge. I also know that our propane exchange supplier does not except non OPD tanks any more and charges us to dispose of even if a person just left the tank there for us to get rid of. Remember an empty twenty pound tank has the same explosive force as a stick of dynamite.

Heres some food for thought for the guys refilling the one pounders and having them leak. Propane expands at a rate of 270 to 1 (from liquid to gas) If you fill ten 1lb cylinder and don't notice three leaking, the three leaking ones will vent the volume of gas, into your garage, equivalent to 810 1 lb cylinders (assuming that you actually get 1 lb of liquid into the tank!)

[Dan Thiem]

Hey airjer,

I was thinking of getting a kit to refill my one pounders but now after what you said maybe not!

[Gissert]

That is why we only refill cylinders in elk camp, and store them outside in a foot locker.

I don't trust re-filled one pounders rattling around in my tub.

There was big thread on this last winter.

[gvg_uwec]

just wondering, why hasent anyone said anything about just using a small 5lb or 10lb tank with the hose. lasts a heck of a long time compared to the 1lb tanks. I use a 20 lb tank if im out tipup fishing, it lasts practically the whole weekend running nonstop.

[lobi]

Good point gvg (you wouldn't happen to be from BRF?). It is better to reuse safely than to take a chance or use disposables.