Duffman Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 These guys usually have only a "1-2-3-throw" window to get it done, Teddy hasn't quite grasped that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanfish Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Cutler had at least 8 seconds on alot of throws..I counted..he is a savvy vet who knows where to run to get out of pressure. bridgwater was running for his life as soon as he got the snap on alot of plays esp second half..they werent prepared to play in all facets..kicking, punting, you name it..thats on the coaches... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJuice1980 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Hey NoFish, thatd be a good list for Peyton Manning, but there is only one of him, laughable. No you dont need to throw it a mile but a 30 yard corner route is not a 26yrd back ankle ball nor is it a 3-5yrd check down/dump pass.yiggin, I bet come Ponders 2nd year you were calling for a replacement but you want to give Teddy the benefit? Im not saying throw in the towel on him, all Im really saying is he has no arm and get ready for management style offense.You guys make me laugh. Rogers had no arm, haha, funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkedAgain Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Rogers had no arm, haha, funny. In that regard, he and Teddy had the same "questions" about arm strength coming out of college. Rodgers had several years to develop all of those things. Teddy was thrown in at the age of 12.You make me laughThe Vikings might now have destroyed the confidence of two first-round QBs. THAT makes me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJuice1980 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Youre right, these 2 guys have no shot because their confidence was rattled. Couldnt be because they dont have the tools, or better yet arm strength, which isnt that important (if your name is Peyton Manning at least). If their confidence is "destroyed" from this or what those 2 guys have "been through" then they are lacking the tools to take the pressure that an NFL QB takes. LOL, you funny guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkedAgain Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yup, these consensus first round picks never had the tools. One who was called "the most NFL-ready" and the other who was set to be the first QB drafted until he got jitters at his pro day. Guys that did nothing but win in college. It just must have been dumb luck that the Vikings picked complete duds. You're right, it couldn't have been anything else but these guys were bad players. I'm so thankful to have your wise insights. Thank you. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkedAgain Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Here is an objective look at Bridgewater from the top sportswriter cover the Packers these days. Maybe in the words of Aaron Rodgers, all the Vikings fans need to R-E-L-A-X:Quote:Green Bay — Quarterback Teddy Bridgewater stood on the sideline in rain gear with a minor ankle injury seven weeks ago when the Green Bay Packers crushed his Minnesota Vikings, 42-10, at Lambeau Field.The rookie from Louisville has taken every snap in the five games since then and will be at the helm again Sunday for the 109th meeting between the border rivals at TCF Bank Stadium.A 9-point favorite in the Week 5 meeting, the Packers (7-3) are favored by 9 1/2 over the Vikings (4-6) this time. Green Bay has an 8-1-1 record in the last 10 meetings.Since replacing injured veteran Matt Cassel onSept. 21 during a loss in New Orleans, Bridgewater has posted a 3-3 record in six starts."He's been good," an executive in personnel for an NFL team said. "He's polished and typically accurate. He won three games, all in the fourth quarter. He's got poise. But he has rookie moments, too."Such as in the final 50 seconds Sunday against the Bears at Soldier Field. On second down and 3 from the Chicago 29, Bridgewater went for it all despite a heavy rush and threw the ball right to safety Ryan Mundy for a game-ending interception in the end zone.It broke an interception-free streak of 128 passes. The 21-13 setback ended the Vikings' two-game winning streak and was a sour way to come off a bye week.Tennessee's Zach Mettenberger leads the four rookie starting quarterbacks in passer rating at 86.2. He's followed by Oakland's Derek Carr (76.8), Bridgewater (75.0) and Jacksonville's Blake Bortles (72.2)."Bridgewater has poise," the scout said. "He's still trying to figure it out. They lost Adrian Peterson, which would have helped him. The line hasn't been great, either."Bridgewater passed for 317 yards and ran for a touchdown Sept. 28 against Atlanta, becoming the first rookie to win with a fourth-quarter comeback in his first start.Returning against Detroit, Bridgewater absorbed eight sacks in a 17-3 home loss to Detroit. The Vikings also lost the next week, 17-16, in Buffalo when Bridgewater took five sacks and had a rating of 56.1."Just didn't look good against Detroit or Buffalo," a defensive coach for a recent Vikings opponent said. "I think his plan after that was to get rid of it quick and, if isn't there, just throw it in the vicinity of the receiver. He's done a good job of that. Didn't take any stupid sacks like he had been doing."Bridgewater has been sacked five times in the past three games."He's not bad," the assistant said. "Average arm, not great. He can get away from you. He's not real fast but he is athletic."According to STATS, Bridgewater ranks 29th in percentage of poor passes (19.1%) among the 32 quarterbacks with the most attempts. The Vikings run the ball effectively (117.0, 12th) but rank 30th in total yards, 29th in passing yards and sack percentage, and 28th in third-down efficiency and points.Minnesota is averaging 9.7 points in its six defeats compared with 30.8 in its four victories.Bridgewater ranks 31st in touchdown passes (four) and 29th in average gain per attempt (6.57). He has just three completions for more than 30 yards."I don't worry about Teddy's ability to throw the deep ball," offensive coordinator Norv Turner said last week. "I see it every day, and I think he is capable of being an outstanding deep-ball thrower. In time, we won't have to have this conversation." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave2 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Quote:"He's not bad," the assistant said. "Average arm, not great. He can get away from you. He's not real fast but he is athletic."Yep, sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMusky Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 What does he say about Manziel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Two horrible throws to start the game. Johnson was WIDE open on the second miss. And remember what I said about a shallow cross last week. Looks like it works. Imagine that. They should put Ponder back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveler Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Two horrible throws to start the game. Johnson was WIDE open on the second miss. And remember what I said about a shallow cross last week. Looks like it works. Imagine that. They should put Ponder back in. A couple bad missis for sure, but PLEASE don't even mention Ponderous!I'm still willing to give Teddy some rope. Heck, a LOT of rope! He does continue to do SOME things right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Zach Mettenberger would have been a perfect fit for Norv (sit in the pocket and fire with the huge arm). I think a lot of the problem is that Norv wants to run a different style of offense than Teddy is used to. Its the square peg into the round hole. I dont understand WHY we dont use Teddy's mobility to move the pocket and help out the O-line and create some throwing lanes. Would give him a run pass option as well. Teddy would do better under a system like New England where you unload the ball in under 3 seconds almost every time. Oh, and ic that he completed a slant to CP yesterday. About time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmitty3 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 What I don't get is why he's so hesitant to run. Wonder if it's the coaches telling him not to run at all costs to avoid injury, or Teddy just trying to be a pure pocket passer. None the less it's very frustrating seeing a very mobile quarterback refuse to use his legs when he has a lot of room for a first down, and instead throwing it out of bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yeah I agree. No doubt in my mind we are a game or 2 better if we had Manziel at QB.Based off big running play potential and there is no chance J-Football misses all the deep throws to wide open receiver's that Teddy has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave2 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yeah I agree. No doubt in my mind we are a game or 2 better if we had Manziel at QB. Based off big running play potential and there is no chance J-Football misses all the deep throws to wide open receiver's that Teddy has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikestabber Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 What I don't get is why he's so hesitant to run. Wonder if it's the coaches telling him not to run at all costs to avoid injury, or Teddy just trying to be a pure pocket passer. None the less it's very frustrating seeing a very mobile quarterback refuse to use his legs when he has a lot of room for a first down, and instead throwing it out of bounds. Yes, he has left some yards on the field, and that sure can be frustrating, but I think the coaches are being VERY careful with him (we are, after all, one hit away from starting Ponder, and that is NOT an upgrade no matter how some people try to spin it). More to the point, though, he is trying to learn how to be a pocket passer, not a scrambler. Pocket passers win championships, scrambling quarterbacks wear knee braces. I think once he learns how to throw receivers open instead of waiting for them to GET open, he'll excel in this league. He missed a few throws BADLY yesterday, but he made some great throws, too, and his poise is awesome. He has a great deal to learn yet, but yesterday was another encouraging outing if you are being realistic and not expecting him to be Peyton Manning by now.For the record, I won't be a hater for hater's sake and trash Johnny Football, but I can promise if he resorts to running and winging it as much as he did in college, he'll be the next RGIII or he'll own one of Favre's records. Not the TD one, either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebs Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Cassell getting hurt and Peterson being gone certainly has made for much more growing pain than was likely planned. It's too bad that stud Hoyer that is keeping sure fire hof rookie qb on the bench wasn't available for vikes to pick up so teddy could ease into playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Kuhn Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Cassell getting hurt and Peterson being gone certainly has made for much more growing pain than was likely planned. It's too bad that stud Hoyer that is keeping sure fire hof rookie qb on the bench wasn't available for vikes to pick up so teddy could ease into playing time. That hurts. It also hurts that he doesn't have a clean pocket very often. Your timing will never be right if you have to slide around all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I think he's being over-coached. They are trying to cram so much information and new things into such a short amount of time on the fly. New system, new WR's, TE's, and RB's coming in and out, make shift O-line, we have no cohesiveness right now. You can tell when we go up tempo with the no huddle and it's bang bang he does really good. That's when he's not thinking about the coaching and just playing the game.I'd rather him take the bumpy road and progress in steps then possibly come out flashy and look really good and then regress. Guys like RGstink and Crapernick looked unreal when they busted on the scene everyone thought they were can't miss next generation QB's after watching them the first few games and they haven't kept on that level. They are loaded with weapons all around them while Teddy is working with mostly dung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Yeah I agree. No doubt in my mind we are a game or 2 better if we had Manziel at QB.Based off big running play potential and there is no chance J-Football misses all the deep throws to wide open receiver's that Teddy has. Yeah because he has shown so much in the league so far, maybe in a video game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Still wondering how it is that Bridgewater and Rudolph cant seem to connect. This should be one of his primary options.Norv Turner's offense is pathetic. Square peg and a round hole. The 7 step drops are nearly worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Yeah because he has shown so much in the league so far, maybe in a video game. No its because JMan has been a better QB than Teddy from the day he was born until now.IMO.I didnt say better person to clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 No its because JMan has been a better QB than Teddy from the day he was born until now.IMO. Got ya, and in your opinion Junkson was a franchise QB Foosball sure looked great last Sunday, just imagine what the Vikes could of done this season with performances like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Still wondering how it is that Bridgewater and Rudolph cant seem to connect. This should be one of his primary options. Rudolph is still injured, he's starting to come around now but they say he still won't be 100% until next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishersofmen Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Game was obviously fixed or some of these zebras need to get their eyes checked but who cares just gets us a better draft pick. Teddy played pretty good I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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