Tavaris Jackson... NFC Player of the Week!

[westb]

I'm embarrassed although not surprised that any body could possibly put this loss anywhere near T-Jack.....then again you guy's are great football minds...LOL...

Some of you guy's have dug yourself a hole so insurmountably deep you couldn't possible get out of it with a coast guard rescue helecopter......don't bother apologizing or admitting any of this we know you can't do it.

Go T-Jack keep putting in it the opponent's and Haters face's!

Well I can tell you this he sure in the he!! didnt do anything to win it for us in the final quarter when the pressure was on. Kinda like I said he would do in the eating crow thread. Lets see missed a wide open berriman by five yards, couldnt get a play off in time so he had to use our last time out, (totally uncalled for)and oh ya fumbled. Things sure are easy for him when all he has to do is throw a swing pass here and a screen pass there. Make a couple of runs for first downs. Looked good but like I said when the pressure is on tjunk is way off. Hard to believe that we had a chance to tie this game up with 7 fumbles (losing 4) but then again we do have a third string qb starting for us and it shows when the chips are down.

[Rick]

It's not T-Jack's fault Berriman lost his legs. Bernard is supposed to run under those things. The timeout was because Birk wanted to move the lineman and without the timeout it's a five yard penalty. T-jack did the right thing there. westb you are obviously a Packer fan trying to stir the pot. Now that's a fact.

westb = packer fan.

[Heartman]

westb, right on...you speak the truth. TJ would do himself some good by looking up the definition of poise - he has no ability to handle stressful situations.

[fishin58]

Rick/Pier like you have said, great football minds in here. So minus the T.O's we win that game in a landslide. Goin into the 4th qt down 24-7 T leads the O down the field twice for ten points and then a horrible no call.

Like was said Birk was making line calls, if you do not know about them, you have no business ranting about T calling a timeout.

[walleyes12]

uh, there was no interference there IMO.

How can a good QB go 4 and out on a final "game on the line" drive?

He's just mediocre at best. Maybe the best option the Vikes have right now, but far from the best option they will have next year.

If I remember right didn't AP Fumble the ball and bobby wade and Sidney rice drop a pass on the last drive! Wake up, and watch the game, you are just waiting for for an excuse to bash T-jack!

alot of were waiting for a loss to jump on T-jack!!! But a real football fan would realize it wasn't his fault! Come on wake up people!

[DTro]

Originally Posted By: dtro

uh, there was no interference there IMO.

How can a good QB go 4 and out on a final "game on the line" drive?

He's just mediocre at best. Maybe the best option the Vikes have right now, but far from the best option they will have next year.

If I remember right didn't AP Fumble the ball and bobby wade and Sidney rice drop a pass on the last drive! Wake up, and watch the game, you are just waiting for for an excuse to bash T-jack!

alot of were waiting for a loss to jump on T-jack!!! But a real football fan would realize it wasn't his fault! Come on wake up people!

No I’m actually a guy that’s not so wrapped up in “The Game” that I can step back and see the whole picture. I gave Jackson his proper dues last week as he played a good game. Whether or not he played a good game this week or not is irrelevant and you can make all the excuses you want about that final drive, but a “good“ QB finds a way to at least get a first down there. Any good QB in the league succeeds there.

I’m not saying he should win the game, but should be able to lead his team down the field a few yards and at least a chance at a desperate hail mary. He couldn’t even do that

You make it sound like I want him to fail. You are mistaken.

[westb]

I bleed purple always have always will. I would just like to see a different qb. We have an owner that has deep pockets and a coach who is to hard headed to relize that Tjack isnt the answer. All we are lacking right now to win the super bowl is a qb and a different head coach. The only time I will cheer for the pack is tonight.

Anything can happen in the playoffs. Look at the Giants last year.A little stickim and the Vikes could be dangerous. We will see.

[Windy City]

Dtro,

I am with you on the final play. I did not see any interferance, there was some minor pushing and shoving but it was by both players and there was no obvious call there to make. I thought the Vikes got a gift penalty earlier on a pass near the sidelines when their reciever got pushed OB but the ball was clearly uncatchable even if he did not get pushed but he got the call. I guess all calls even out in the end and the best team usually wins. Usually. If my beloved Bears can scrape a decent game together against the Cheeseheads and pull out a win then things could get interesting in the final week of play. True that they Giants have nothing to play for but I can not see a number one seed laying down in the final week of the season and and laying an egg going into the playoffs. I think the Vikes will get their A game, or maybe their B+ game at worst.

Windy

[PierBridge]

7 TD's, Zero interceptions, 115 QB rating in 3 Games and 300 yards in total offense in the last game!

Nuff said!

And for the record I'm blame YOU guys for every single mistake T-Jack has made since his return it was you the whining majority that FREAKED Ziggy into panicking and ordering Chili to make the move to Gus. Obviously those should have been T-Jacks Reps!

medium rare anybody?...

[MUSKYMAN1011]

All we are lacking right now to win the super bowl is a qb and a different head coach.

And a Running back that does not fumble 3 times in a Game!

[zamboni]

Know what really cost us that game??? Do ya???? Honestly???? Matt Ryan trying to be like Walter Payton and going over the top for some odd reason, fumbling and 2 or 3 Vikings watching the ball lay on the ground. That was 7 points. We lost by 7 points. Idiots, pick the doggone ball up, or fall on it. It went right through I think it was Winfields hands, very sad

[Hammer Handle]

T-Jack didn't lose the name. Nor did one play. Nor did the coach.

The team lost the game. More than one person mades mistakes and more than one person had fumbles.

Face it, they choked.

But, maybe next week....

I am just ashamed to say that the finger-pointing and crying on here is starting to sound like Packer fans. Waa Waa! get over it already.

Go Vikes!

[boatfixer]

Point is, not one person or one drive lost the game. If you give the other team the ball too many times, you gonna lose da game. Jackson didn't lose it, Peterson didn't lose it, Berrian didn't lose it, Childress didn't lose it. The Vikings lost the game. Pretty much everyone except for Shiancoe could have played better.

[Rick]

No I’m actually a guy that’s not so wrapped up in “The Game” that I can step back and see the whole picture. I gave Jackson his proper dues last week as he played a good game. Whether or not he played a good game this week or not is irrelevant and you can make all the excuses you want about that final drive, but a “good“ QB finds a way to at least get a first down there. Any good QB in the league succeeds there.

I’m not saying he should win the game, but should be able to lead his team down the field a few yards and at least a chance at a desperate hail mary. He couldn’t even do that

You make it sound like I want him to fail. You are mistaken.

dtro, T-Jack put the ball dead on the mark in Rices hands. He didn't catch it. The definition of a great QB is not one who throws the ball to himself and makes the catch. The definition is one who gives his team the opportunity and T-Jack did that. Also T-Jack is not a great QB at this time. It was the fumbles that cost us the game.

He did a good job for a qb who has as few of starts as he has and he is WAY BETTER than Frerotte and I didn' see these packer/bear fan name callers like westb or a few others coming out of the woodwork on Frerotte. See the pattern?

And I'm saying the name callers are actually packer or bears fans. westb you don't sound like you bleed purple in the least and are one of several of those name callers.

[walleyes12]

you beat me to it Rick!

Dtro- What else could of T-Jack done?? He hit two recievers in the hands and his running back fumbled the ball!! In your great qb mind what else could of he of he of done???

[DTro]

I just like getting you guys fired up.

I agree it was a team effort. But I've seen way to many times how great QB's find a way to give their team a shot.

I still think the Vikings will have better options at QB next year than T-Jack.

For now I would like to see them win. T-Jack or not.

Go Pack!

[OLY]

Anyone who blames T Jack for the loss, or says he hasnt done anything to prove he should at least get the first look at the starting QB job next year needs to take a look in the mirror and ask them selves why is it I hate on this guy so much? Everything he has done in past seasons is irrrelevant. This is a different team then the one he played for last year, this is a much better team offensivly then we had last year. The guy has had 4.5 games with THIS team amd even thogh his record is bad he hasnt played nearly as bad as you would think he has with all the hate the guy recieves. On the final drive yeaterday he put the ball in the recievers hands he put the ball up where they had a chance to MAKE A PLAY! That didnt happen so I guess its his fault that nobody else stepped up on that final drive. AP fumbles on the first paly and Ryan cook fails to block their only legitimate pass rusher on the others. I guess he should line up play right tackle block the guy then throw the ball up to himself, then would you all be happy??

[MUSKYMAN1011]

Pack is goin DOWN ! TONIGHT!

DA BEARS GONNA WHOOP THEIR AS!!

[fishin58]

Hammer/zamboni glad to see no rage against the machinejack. It was Sharper that should have fell on the ballin the endzone. Also for the dudes that think the last no-call was a good call, last I looked Sid the Kid has two arms but for some reason he could only use ONE??

[LMITOUT]

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I ask again, did you watch the final drive?

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You can throw every stat you want at me. The good QB's figure out a way to get the ball downfield in that situation and give the team a shot at tying or even winning the game.

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How can a good QB go 4 and out on a final "game on the line" drive?

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He's just mediocre at best. Maybe the best option the Vikes have right now, but far from the best option they will have next year.

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should be able to lead his team down the field a few yards and at least a chance at a desperate hail mary. He couldn’t even do that

[Drewski]

I still think the Vikings will have better options at QB next year than T-Jack.

Agree 100%. Tjack would be a great backup, but there are better starters out there.

[LOTWSvirgin]

Yah better choices out there! I think we should get Culpepper back. He and AP together. Who would have more turnovers?

[jltimm]

That right there is funny!

[2 DA GILLS]

Here is the Vikings dilemma (or is it a fan base problem). The Vikes seem to be lacking a good QB 90% of the seasons (during my years of watching). We get a guy that looks promising, he has a few bad games - we bench him and switch to some other back-up or veteran QB. I am not too sure T-Jack is the answer, but some day can we get a QB and stick with him for enough time to see what we really have? I have had enough of the 8-8 or 9-7 seasons. I guess the instant gratification approach is the approach of society in general, so why expect different from Vikes fans.

I would welcome a different QB for next season, if they can get a real talent. Not some other marginal QB. Otherwise, we will just repeat history, 1 to 3 years of half way development and then we will dump them. Then on to repeat the same QB development scheme. If we can not get a real, high quality and proven talent, keep working on T-Jack in my opinion.

Go Pack! Tonight at least.

[zamboni]

Here is the Vikings dilemma (or is it a fan base problem). The Vikes seem to be lacking a good QB 90% of the seasons (during my years of watching).

I don't know. Before I was watching them they had Tarkington, who was a pretty good QB. I am only 33, so my first memories of Fran were watching him on tv's "That's Incredible!!". My dad used to tell me how good he was, and 15 years later I finally understood.

Tommy Kramer had some solid years here, as did Moon, Cunningham and even Culpepper before he got hurt. Granted he had some pretty good WRs to throw to. We are a flip/flop team and that is what I see as our downfall. Seems when we have the best defense in the league, our offense stinks. And when we have the best offense in the league, our defense is horrendous. Remember 98??? We were the same as the Rams in the early 2000's- give up 40+ points a game- why not??? We will score 50+ and win. We need it all to come together to be a serious contender at a Super Bowl run. Will a new QB solve it?? It might, but AP needs to hang onto the ball, the recievers need to catch the ball and our secondary needs to improve.