Musky_Madness Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 My dad and I were fishing out on Lobster Lake last night for musky and ended up having quite a dramatic night. After a beautiful night with the moon, slight breeze, no bugs, and topwaters we decided to call it shortly after 11pm. We headed back to the new access and loaded up the boat. We're in a 07 Crestliner 1850 FishHawk dual console 150 Optimax pulled by a F-150. As the boat is being pulled out of the water, we hear a horrible screech sound and then boom and the truck comes to a halt. Get out of the truck trying to figure out what had happened: The tire pictured is the spare mounted in front of the actual axle. The front support beam of the trailer actually got stuck in between the two concrete bunks on the access. Keep in mid it's now after 11pm on a Monday evening. There was no way just to drive forward or reverse because it was in between the bunks and there's no way you want to bend a new trailer. (The boat was a 07 closeout and have only had possession of for a month now.) The heads began spinning and we devised a plan of stacking 2 x 4 chunks that we had in the bed of the pickup for firewood (20 at most) that were roughly 18" long. We were able to back up the trailer slightly to get the tires up on some 2 x 4's and then inched our way up the access stacking the 2 x 4's. After getting out we were obviously relieved and upset at the same time. The boat access is brand new and obviously not designed right. The angle of the access is too steep and then the tar is at a 45 degree angle where it meets. I took out a tape and measured the difference between the top of the cement bunks and the top of the tar and it was slightly over a 2" differential. I then laid out a 2 x 4 on the top cement bunk to see how high the angle was coming off the back compared to the tar and it was over a 3" difference. Pictures are below. I will be contacting the DNR tomorrow to see if they can do something about it. I know we weren't the only one after looking at the gashes on the cement once it happened to us. Here is a photo montage: Always pack blocks just in case now! You can see the scrapes from other rigs as well. Notice the sharp incline and how out of line the bunks are towards the top. Damage done, luckily the support did not bend as it had a lot of weight against it. I don't know what we would've done without those 2 x 4's last night. It would have been awful for sure. If we got stuck with a full size truck, I don't know how you'd get in and out with a car. Be careful out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Esboldt Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I have the same trailer (same scrapes on the support) and did the exact same thing 3 times the first year I owned it. One time I hung it up on an access at Mille Lacs without the boat on it. We found a rather large and thick branch and pried it up to get it out.Solution: Instead of using a 2" drop hitch, I flipped it and made it a 2" elevated hitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backlash 1 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I know what you're saying. I had it happen to me on a South Dakota access last year. I think it was on Enemy Swim if I remember right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blarkey Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I have the same trailer and had that almost happen on Knife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandmannd Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 That sucks, you would think that they know how to build a launch by now. The bluffs used to be bad for a while but didn't cause damage. They fixed it now and it's much better. Let us know what you hear from the DNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishing for walleyes Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Having a 28 ft pontoon i have had that same problem a few times.I have also had the problem of the rear of the pontoons hitting first and breaking off my transducers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine_man Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Instead of using a 2" drop hitch, I flipped it and made it a 2" elevated hitch. Ray - was your boat riding level before you flipped it, or did flipping it bring it closer to level?Regardless - it sure looks like the access could use some work.marine_man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMickish Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Try a reciever with less drop to it. That will change the angle of the trailer and hopefully this won't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish-I-Were-Fishn Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Man! Who would have thunk it?? One more thing to make me paranoid at the launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparcebag Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Does the bumper have holes for a hitch ball? those drop hitches are OK But in your case you need a higher point of connection.Maybe get a offset receiver,I think thats why they started making them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamohr686 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I was fishing a bass tournament on Dead lake in ottertail Co and had the same thing happen to a friend. Skeeter trailers also have a very low crossbar like on your rig. We ended up using a spare tire jack and jacking up the trailer, then pulling the boat foward. Later he took some rhino lining and painted his crossbar to prevent rust and more chipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Bay Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 You guys must have hit launching the boat too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckN Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I've had this same experience with my (Skeeter) bunk trailer. However, it was a different access, but a new access that was incomplete and I didn't know it until it was too late. I had to push my glass boat off the bunk trailer to get it off because my trailer was totally stuck...it was a mess! If you have a drop hitch, I would do what Ray said. I also can see in the photos something doesn't look right. I bet my trailer would hang up too looking at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleye vision Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. That ramp doesn't really look all that poorly designed. What is poorly designed is the boat trailer. There just isn't enough ground clearance there. I think a lot of the newer trailers have this problem. They're more form than function. Just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Crichton Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I agree, Upon looking at those trailers going down the road, my buddy and I both said, that would cause problems on some ramps.What is the reason for that design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandmannd Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I agree, Upon looking at those trailers going down the road, my buddy and I both said, that would cause problems on some ramps.What is the reason for that design. To keep repair shops in business!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Crichton Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Ah I knew there was a good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Esboldt Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 It is too much of a drop on that support bar, I agree with that. Marine Man, I was riding just a little above level after I flipped it. I am not really a big fan of going that direction. Lack of toungue weight can cause some vehicle handling issues, but I think I am OK in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky_Madness Posted June 11, 2008 Author Share Posted June 11, 2008 You guys must have hit launching the boat too. It is a dual access and we switched to the other side after a close call on the way down. We were hoping the other side would be better. I'll have to go out in the garage and switch the hitch around and see what that looks like. I have the hitch holes on the bumper, but don't want to pull with my bumper. I'd rather use the tow package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Maybe adding a skid plate to the cross support would allow you to pull it over the gaps with the damage to the skid plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surface Tension Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 The ramp has a definite dip where the pad ends. If you have a tandem axle trailer you'll want it to ride level. Single axle trailer you can get rid of the drop hitch as long as you have the tongue weight. I think an easy solution if you can't trailer with the tongue higher is to have a second ball on the bumper that you can use at the ramp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valv Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I don't agree with poor design. Many newer trailers have V shaped crossmembers to lower the height of boat and help loading/unloading in shallow waters. I think the design of ramp is incorrect, they should fill the drop after top slab for at least 20 ft.I bet they built ramp on specs, then ground got packed from vehicles and dropped a good 6" below what it was supposed to.Also vehicles backing up to it got stuck, spun tires and moved dirt away from the area.Besides suggestions above, you can also raise your trailer height by mounting the axle above the springs, if possible, this should give you 2" more clearance. Carrying 2 long 2"x6" boards will help also, use them as a "bridge" over the gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesfriend Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Do you have full size tires. 15"s. Probably do. I went out and looked at my roller trailer. The lower cross member must be just on bunks. The lowest part on my trailer is the axel. I am suprised that launch is the first place you git hung up on being that low. What happens on driveways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Crichton Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Funny I have not heard to many issues of this happening in the past. And I also thought that the ramps were getting better and more improved over the years. Now you buy a fancy bunk trailer and probally an expensive boat and you have to bring extra equipment just to launch your boat. Lets see bring wood, re mount axle to give more clearance, make sure ramp is in perfect shape and size to be able to get boat off trailer. HMMMMMMMM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugoBox Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 My brother keeps and extra insert in his truck for this type of deal (he's told me to do the same) - I guess its the boyscout in him. Its a good deal you had the 2X4's. Thinking back to times when we've had to go the McGiver route, all the "extras" in the truck tend to help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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