BigDaddy Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I'm wondering what's new in gas augers for this year. I see that Strikemaster has the new Strike-Lite, 4 stroke w/synth auger.What do people think of this? What else is new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Thiem Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 If I ever fall into a little extra cash I'm getting a Nils. I have seen these things in action and I was very impressed. Take a look Nils Master Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deitz Dittrich Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I too am looking very closely at a Nils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Now if they'd just make these power augers more affordable for us poor folk, I'd be in heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Big: Nils is the ONE!!! I've had the original one I got in Finland 20 years ago. That hand operated thing would cut faster than power auger I'd ever seen before. My blade went dull after hundreds of holes over a ten year span, and I couldn't find amyone to do the hollow grind sharping. Now comes Nils, and they will sell the slip on head, and then do an exchange when sharping is needed. With the Gas powered head now available, you will cut clear Ice like butter. Thanks for getting me revved, I have to get on the stick and get one ordered.. Any Dealer in the Minneapolis area???? The factory rep is in St Cloud and I think Thorne Brothers is the retailer.. I know you can see them at the St. Paul Ice show, and probably get it on line here too.. Am I correct???? Kaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northlander Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I love my NIlsmaster. Light and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Duckslayer Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Quote:Now if they'd just make these power augers more affordable for us poor folk, I'd be in heaven. You need to do what I did. For Christmas, my birthday, aniversary, fathers day and any other time some one wanted to get me something I told them I wanted a Mills Fleet farm gift card. I now have the money to get one once they are back on the shelves. I can get a better model even with just a tad more money. Paitence my friend! Take care and N Joy the Hunt././Jimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_D Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 This years batch of Nils augers are not in yet. I think they start coming in October, but I can check. The only change with the Nils this year is (I believe) they will be coming standard with (If not standard it will be an option)a power point style blade. The blade has been around for a few years and is suppose to eliminate any hop if blades are dull and also make it easier to drill troths for shanties and livewells. When I get my hands on one, I'll post a pic. This is my 3rd season with my Nils and it is hands down the best piece of equipment I have purchased. I believe they are being sold here this year as well....Rick? Here are a few videos I made of my Nils in action. Nils Master 4.5" Auger ....24" of ice Nils Master Auger 8".......30" of Ice Here is one of me having a friendly "race" with my friend and his Jiffy. This was all in fun. Jiffy owners don't get all fired up. 8" Nils vs. 8" Auger I got a little flack for the last race not being "fair" for some reason or another, so I did this one. Race #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeT Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 How does it drill and more important how does it redrill hole in an ice house, how much smoke what kind of oil do you use what mix I know some people were using Amsoil last year what do other people think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_D Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I used the Amsoil Saber last season and I LOVE IT. I now use it in all my 2 cycle motors. I mix it 100:1 and it burns super clean. No more blue smoke and cloths that smell of 2 cycle exhaust. I recommend it for any auger.I only used the unit a few times in my shanty before the shanty was stolen. The unit may want to "hop" a little when re-drilling old holes. I never really had a problem with it, but I only did it a few times that 1st season I had the unit. Chipper style seem to still be the best for opening old holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 People actually ask you what you want? Lucky you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Duckslayer Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Quote:People actually ask you what you want? Lucky you! Well sometimes... More often than not you just have to let them know ahead of time. Can't wait to get back out onto the ice! Have a good one and N Joy the Hunt././Jimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northlander Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I used Amsoil in my Nilsmaster last year and it worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvg_uwec Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 back to bigdaddy's post.. can anyone telll me where i can see more info on this new auger with the 4 stroke and synthetic auger? i heard about it but never saw any info on it, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hudson Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 GVG Here is the low down on the new auger.The StrikeMaster Strike-Lite will have a 4 cycle 35cc engine available with an 8" bit where the whole unit will weigh a whopping 20lbs. The bit is a composite material and weighs 5 1/2lbs that includes a power point tip and two Lazer type blades. I am unsure of the price as of yet but will likley be higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_D Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Do you know who makes the motor? The 4-stroke auger idea has always been a interesting to say the least. One company tried it in the late 70's early 80's. I'd be interested in how the motor is designed and how they overcame some of the 4-Stroke issues. Some questions to think about....Can this motor be stored on it's side (transport, layed on ice after cutting holes, etc) without oil from the crankcase leaking into the cylinder?Can the unit be run on it's side (ie. laying it on the ice to warm up) without burning up the motor?How quickly will the rings wear out due the short run periods in very cold weather? (Cold oil...no lube in cylinders).What is the life span of these motors?The composite bit sounds interesting. Is it composite like corbon fiber/plastic or is it an alloy of some type? There is a lot of torque on those bits (As Stikemaster found out with the laser mag ultra) and the material needs to be strong enough to not have the blade angle change.Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanson Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 gvg- $499.99 is what they are asking for the Strike-Lyte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surface Tension Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Bob those were my thoughts as well regarding a 4 stroke auger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_D Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Here are the auger specs fro Marine General. "4 Stroke lightweight synthetic auger. Twin Stainless Steel Lazer-Lite Blades, 4 Cycle 35cc Robin Engine, 50 RPM Auger Rotattion, 6100 RPM Motor RPMs, Power Point, No Mix Fuel-Unleaded Gas Only, " Looks like there was a typo in the add. I believe they use a 25:1 gearbox on thier augers, which would make it ~250RPM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hudson Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 BobI havent used the new Strike-Lite as of yet... but I will try to get some info on the questions you posed.. In the material I received, it does state the auger has a 25-1 gear ratio, but puts out 6100 rpms at full load... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augernaut Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Several of the IT Powersticks ran that composite bit last year on the 224 or Lazermag powerhead - I did not have a chance to try one, but they all loved the composite bit. I believe I will wait on the 4-stroke until the bugs are ironed out, but I'm looking seriously at buying the composite bit for my Lazermag - now that would make a light auger, probably lighter than the Nils! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanson Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Bob-Your math is right.6100 Engine RPMS divided by 25 (25:1 gearbox) = 244 or approx. 250 RPM at the auger bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icenutter Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Jiffy has a new Stealth STX out this year. They are also running a 1-2-3 warranty on their new models. 1 year on the engine, 2 years on the gear box and 3 years on the new STX blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_D Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Quote: now that would make a light auger, probably lighter than the Nils! Maybe as light....but not as fast. Just having fun.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalleyeStriker Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 All I have to say is... NILS! I have had one for more than 2 years, No problems, and it still cuts like the first day I bought it! 8" Nils vs. 8" Auger - CLICK HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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