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Time for Jared Allen to go


BuckSutherland

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I think the Vikes should look at it this way... you are on the hook for his entire 2013 salary if he plays or not (say an injury)... if they lose one or two more games, it's obvious the season will be a total bust. No chance at even .500. Put Allen out there for trade for a higher pick (2nd round?) and you will pay the balance of his salary. He isn't going to re-sign here anyways and almost half his salary will be paid by the trade deadline. I dont think money should be the issue in the short run, but rather the ability to stock pile higher draft picks. I think without the caveat that his salary will be paid, few teams could account for him and remain under the cap. Especially contending teams

I can bet a contending team that needs a little more pass rush will strongly consider that move. Even an Allen at 70% is someone that needs to be accounted for and may free up a younger quicker rusher from a double teaming.

By not doing something outside the box, you are simply doing something the Twins constantly do... (Hunter, Cuddyer etc) run out the contracts only to let a player walk and get nothing for them.

Good Luck!

Ken

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The big mistake was not trying to get him to restructure. He could have freed up enough room for Winfield, but he is too greedy. The reason he got all those sacks is cause teams throw the ball 40-50 times a game on us. That's not normal. He had more opportunity than other players at the same position.

The year he got 22 what was our record?? 3-13?? He didn't give a dam about playing a team sport. He was going for personal glory. Always out of position on running plays and always assuming every play was a pass. Too many of you get caught up on stats of each player. There is a lot more to it than that.

Allen is a specialist. ALL he can do is rush the QB. He just isn't good at it anymore. I wish there was a stat for how long QBs hung onto the ball vs us compared to other teams. They have ALL DAY to throw. Our lack of pressure made Scam Newton look like Johnny Unitas.

Allen is worth possibly a 6th round draft pick if we were to trade him tonight. Is he better than that?? Yes, but smart teams wont give up any more value than that to get him, and the dumb teams are all out of the playoffs already and don't need him.

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He's the 2nd best player on this team. Why get rid of him. One could argue that he is the most impactful player with AP getting so much attention that hes rendered a non-factor. Jared plays fundamental disciplined football, we need more guys like that.

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Correction:

He would have Predicted it the day after he did it!

Good Luck!

Ken

And I am sure he has broken down all of the film of Jared Allen to show us proof he is in it for only his stats and nothing else..... I mean, being the next GM/Coach of the Vikes, a guy should have his ducks in a row and know what he has going in. If Jared Allen restructures his deal and we get one more free agent signing out of the deal, I am sure we are on top of the NFC north right now, I mean nickel corner(which winfield would have played) is the only thing holding us back right now.

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Report: Jared Allen could be traded by Tuesday

Add another name to the list of players who could be traded by Tuesday at 4:00 p.m. ET.

Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports that Vikings defensive end Jared Allen could be traded “for the right price.”

While that sentence generally applies to any player, there’s reason to believe it particularly applies to Allen. He’s in the final year of a contract that pays him a base salary of $14.2 million, which means that he’d be due to make $7.5 million over the rest of the year.

Glazer says the “right price” is more than a third-round pick, which could be more than a new team would want to pay for a guy in the last year of his contract — unless a new deal would be part of the trade.

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I would be all over a a 3rd for Allen right now, but we will get one at the end of the season for him anyway. So if we get a 3rd for him now, all we are doing is freeing up cash for the remainder if this season.

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Allen's stat line from last night:

You mean to tell me his stats are a big 0?? Cant be. He sacked the highly mobile Eli Manning and undefeated Giants last week with a defender in the way and saved our season. There is no way he got his @$$ kicked by some no name 4th round pick rookie like that last night. Don't you know he had 22 sacks back in 1984? He is the best ever and we should pay him more. He is not making nearly enough.

He is probably blowing on purpose so he can stay here and live off his over-inflated salary and be idol-worshiped by the circle jerk clan on here. If I were him I wouldn't want to get traded out of MN either.

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You mean to tell me his stats are a big 0?? Cant be. He sacked the highly mobile Eli Manning and undefeated Giants last week with a defender in the way and saved our season. There is no way he got his @$$ kicked by some no name 4th round pick rookie like that last night. Don't you know he had 22 sacks back in 1984? He is the best ever and we should pay him more. He is not making nearly enough.

He is probably blowing on purpose so he can stay here and live off his over-inflated salary and be idol-worshiped by the circle jerk clan on here. If I were him I wouldn't want to get traded out of MN either.

Buck, you rip somebody for mis-typing a word but on a different forum you typed loose instead of lose. Nobody ripped you for that, did they?

Here's another comical take on football in the mind of BuckSutherland: Stat Lines. Wow, you don't know anything other than what you read and hear. Ever spend time watching a game? If you have then you will see how good this guy is at containment (D-Ends first responsibility) and run stopping. The guy constantly breaks blocks and makes tackles on the edge. His effort is very hard to match for anybody on any team. The guy has skills and he goes all out, why hate on him so much? I think you must have some weird fetish for being Skip Bayless.

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Ever spend time watching a game? If you have then you will see how good this guy is at containment (D-Ends first responsibility) and run stopping.

Containment? If you consider running a huge wide loop 10 yards behind the qb containment then ya JA has great containment. All of Rodgers scrambles out of the pocket or runs for first downs last week went to the left side where JA should have been. Ya he'll get to the qb a few times, but when he doesn't he leaves a gaping hole for the qb to step up into.

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His run recognition is pretty dang good. You don't see him doing that when its a run play do you? That's how you pass rush, watch most D-ends, they rip back over the top or rip underneath. I bet you know how to do that better than a pro. Maybe the scheme should call for a LB to come up and fill some green.

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Its his goat roping routine that drives me nutz. Like when he finally does make a play he's suppose to he needs to draw that attention to himself, even if the team is losing badly. He, and others like him, are taking football to the level of pro wrestling and roller derby.

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