FIRE FRAZIER!!

[hawgchaser]

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The Viks are falling apart, if anything ya'll can tune in to the Packer game. wink

In spite of my chuckling, I find that to be a very insensitive comment!

I tell my vikes fan friends, "I'm not a Vikings hater. I hope they get second in the division...right behind the Pack! We sensitive, caring types are like that, you know!

[GatorBait]

Not trying to hijack this, the blackout thing is for real, it's a gardnered policy written by the NFL and networks have no control over it if the team can't make the ticket sales. Politically it's trying to be fought as we speak, as it is detrimental to financially struggling teams. With the Vikes having their own problems with the stadium lease ordeal, blackouts are the last thing they need.

[CAB]

I'm reading all about how Frazier should be fired and then I glance down on the my my screen and I'm seeing a chick modeling Bad Idea T-shirts. Neuf said.

[GatorBait]

[toughguy]

Coaching has cost us at least 1/2 of the losses this year. The Frazier honeymoon is officially over after this week. He's got to go.

[reinhard1]

three runs in a row up the middle certainly tells me whoever called those plays has to go along with some offensive line players. not ready to climb on the fire Frazier train yet. however his calm demeanor on the sidelines is getting old. you would think he would climb out of that shell once in awhile and pep talk the players at times. i stopped listning to his press conferences. boring, same answeres to the same questions. might as well record one and not show up and play them over and over. could AP have made one of those three play a TD? Frazier just doesn't have the players right now so i give him some slack on that point. good luck.

[B. Amish]

except one of the plays worked and harvin scored. they just never challenged it.

[LABS4ME]

Certainly not defending fraziers play calling... (is he calling the Offense or is Musgrave? They were poor play choices, but in the end who actually called them...

Also I can see how everyone here wants Frazier fired with the plethora of talent he has to work with... stuck at two wins is totally unexceptable... when he has a solid O line... experience at the QB, incredible D backs and deep in recievers... yep! the play calling is the problem, not the execution or the missed assignments.

What coach in the NFL today would have this team of misfits at 5 wins or more?

SHEESH!

GO PACK!

Ken

[LMITOUT]

Just a few months ago we were told this team had plenty of talent and was only a couple of years removed from a NFC championship game...

Yeah, I didn't buy it either.

[cheddar 86]

Just a few months ago we were told this team had plenty of talent and was only a couple of years removed from a NFC championship game...

Yeah, I didn't buy it either.

I just find it funny how bad this organization is at recognizing what is and isn't talent. It must be such a toss of the dice when teams draft, and/or when they sign game changing ex-chicago bear wide receivers. Yeah even a blind squirrel gets lucky once in a while - with Adrian Peterson, but then they also go and spend tons of money on him when he only can do one thing (running) great, meanwhile his lack of blocking takes him off the field in 3rd downs, thus limiting the playbook and telegraphing passing 3rd downs. Can't wait to see what washes up on shore for next years signings....

[MNice]

FIRE ZIZZY!!!!! He is more worried about the d a m stadium than a real GM.

[Whoaru99]

except one of the plays worked and harvin scored. they just never challenged it.

It did look like it, but whether or not that's the way the challenge would have ended up we'll never know.

[Scott M]

The announcers talked about having Harvin and Rudolph on the sidelines when they needed a score and took a FG instead.

No one can stick with DeMaryius Thomas apparently.

[MuleShack]

I thought that was a brilliant call to throw that interception at the end of the game to guarantee a #2 draft pick

[Scott K]

I was wondering what they were thinking by trying to win. Then I seen it all came in to place, and they pulled away with a good loss.

[FISHINGURU]

We have Percy and Rudolph on the sideline because the team wants to lose out for a better draft pick, same reason they told Ponder to just throw a Int and get that game over with.

Franchise left tackle here we come!! I have a feeling we'll be drafting #3 or #4 though.

[pikestabber]

According to NFL.com, Zygi just said Frazier will be here for another year...

[nofishfisherman]

Of course he's going to be here next year. You can't fire a coach after really only 1 season when he has a rookie QB, and had no off season to prepare his guys. For sure Frazier made some mistakes throughout the season but its the lack of talent on the field that put us at 2-10.

Also we are still paying Childress and if you fire Frazier you'd still have to pay him, plus you'd have to pay whoever you hired. Not many owners want to pay 3 head coaches at the same time. And then of course if the next guy doesn't turn it around in 1 year then do you fire him as well? In the name of consistency you'd probably have to, that means you'd be paying 3 or 4 coaches again.

[pikestabber]

I, for one, am fine with keeping Frazier another year...I was just stating that the decision had been already made, not arguing against it. Unlike most people that keep an eye on this thread, I'm not on the "Fire Frazier" wagon at all--so I guess I am just trolling .

I just think that having no pre-season, key injuries, a terrible secondary and a sub-par O-line, taking a chance on a veteran QB that didn't pan out, and then transitioning to a rookie QB was too much for anyone to handle. There are no coaches, working or recently retired, that would have done a whole lot better in this situation... I have said it before and will own up to it again...I thought McNabb could come in and manage the game while mentoring Ponder, but he didn't do that. So what was Frazier to do? Throw in a rookie QB with no experience and no training camp and hope the pieces fit? That was his only choice, and he made it. This was a rebuilding year and had little chance of being much else.

[LABS4ME]

They should have made this a demolition year! Maybe lay a foundation year next year and possibly start re-building after that....

Of course all this would require an architect and whom would that be?...

Good Luck

Ken

[zepman]

Frazier may be back but his ENTIRE defensive staff should and will be gone.

They were still Chilly's guys for the most part.

[blue_healer_guy]

Looking from my tv in my garage, the same tv ive watched many seasons of vikings football. I see a team with ALOT of talent that keeps making the same mistakes yr after yr. I also see a secondary that yr after yr is terrible. I see linebackers that never make big plays, again yr after yr. I see our first yr qb that cant throw a medium deep sideline route without the rainbow effect. To me, someone besides the coach has to be accountable for the teams we have. Sure fire the coach, but where does that get us. We need a gm and place the burden on him to build a franchise like evry other team and sport has. If he sucks, fire him.

[Musky Buck]

Boy coaches take a lot of heat. Like we're superbowl bound next year without him. We can't even sniff the pack at this point and they have 0 running game, it's all about a healthy stud QB and there isn't many of them out there, lucking out like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson days are over.

[muskE]

Boy coaches take a lot of heat. Like we're superbowl bound next year without him. We can't even sniff the pack at this point and they have 0 running game, it's all about a healthy stud QB and there isn't many of them out there, lucking out like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson days are over.

Dilfer? Lucky??

We'll be lucky to keep Jared on the team if the Vike's continue to push KC-esque seasons. The Vikes need help building franchise players with the QB and the defensive secondary. Hiring old, vet QB's has never really payed out for anyone and could only serve as a stop-gap.

Look at Rodgers. He had a few years to study Favre and prove the stud he was. Ponder had...well nothing but turmoil. The game will slow down for him once he has confidence he has time to read the play (and the O line needs to give him that time).

The Vikes are still a good team with good talent despite their record. They are not a team as transparent as the Colts (that proved fish rot from the head, down) and have been been close in many games.

[RiverFish]

The Vikings are 2-10, they do not have a good team. They have an all world RB that can't catch and a very good DE.

They need a ton of work at most positions.

I don't think it is fair to judge Fraziers coaching skills with this awful team, nobody could coach them to wins.