MLB Ump's

[mnwild]

What is wrong with them lately?? I have seeing so many bad calls the last year or 2. Good example tonight, 1st base UMP robbed the Tigers pitcher A.Gallaraga of a perfect game, he was out by a mile. Other day Oswald from Houston was ejected for no reason in the 2nd inning, showed frustration but not towards the UMP. Someone was cleary out at 3rd base (dont remember the game)but was called safe. And of all plays. the Mauer hit that was fair and called foul. Something is going on between the UMPS and MLB, what is it???

[First Ice-Mike]

I know - I felt terrible for Gallaraga tonight - What a way to lose a perfect game, but I guess thats baseball.

FI

[Quackaddict9]

at least the Tigers are glad to get a win.

[hcmpls1]

My favorite saying from when I was in little league applies here - "Hey ump, get off your knees, you're blowing the game!"

[mr_jman]

I don't know if I feel worse for the Mauer "non" hit in the playoffs or blowing the perfect game. Clearly tonights perfect game was a guarantee, and their was no guarantee the Twins would have got game 2 and won two more... I haven't seen the aftermath after the play but I hope there was some arguing by the Tigers coach and players. Really too bad for Gallaraga and as I sit here typing this another possibly missed call to make the Twins lose to the Mariners tonight.

[mr_jman]

YEP!!!!! Looks like the Twins did make the out at 2nd which would have sent it to the 11th inning!!!!!

[Swimbait2009]

Replay anyone?

[PierBridge]

He looked out at 2nd..... tough night for the Blue!

[Mudcutter]

didn't see the potential force at 2nd in the twins game, so I can't say,, but the Detroit pitcher should have had perfect game as I did see that play,, no question. One good thing is that Joyce, the ump who made the call on the near perfect game was all over national late night radio manning up and admiting a mistake and even apoligized to Gallarga. To me, it's not enough,, something needs to change in baseball further with the reviews,, as games can still be won or lost on miscues by the umps,,, still can happen in Football,, but not as likely. Under the 20 pitched perfect games in MLB history,, GAllarga at least deserves an * with the quote from joyce, "I missed the call." Odds of a perfect game in the majors 1:260,000--- oddly enough, about the same odds of the Cubs recent demise in the postseason of losing 3 in row in the past 6 postseasons. That's 18 in a row when it really counts-- Funny how baseball works.

Nice to see Joyce man-up and admit failure. Unlike Cubs fans.

[Mudcutter]

for those of you who google the odds of a "perfect game" ,,, you will come up with an avg of 1:12000 or so. No odds of such an event are perfect,,((however, they are not taking in effect the result of a starting pitcher weakening throughout the game, taking the pitcher out etc..) and the hitters seeing him again 3 times throughout the game. They are just basing the fact of an on base % of around .320 ,, which by the 2nd or 3rd time through the batting order, it's much higher, and therfore a more accurate % of perfect game from any one pitcher is more like 1:250,000. or 1:125,000 for any game you watch based on 2 starting pitchers. Being that MLB has seen 2 perfect games (shoud've been 3) in the past 2 months,, the odds of that are nearly likely of 2 opposing pitchers throwing no-hitters in the same game--.

[harvey lee]

I guess they are human and will blow it at times.

I do not understand when the ump admitted that he blew it that they cannot change the call for the pitcher.

[zamboni]

Replay anyone?

Yep, managers should get a red flag like in the NFL and get to use it once a game. Balls and strikes can't be replayed, but outs made at bases and the plate can, and catches/traps and foul/not foul can be as well.

[Scott K]

One time per game just isnt enough today, they are sometimes off several times a game. Maybe make it that you can throw the red flag, but if the original call was correct, then you get an out if your team was batting, if the other team was batting, and the original play was the right call, they get a 4th out. This way, you make sure that it was a bad call, before you throw the red flag.

[pikestabber]

The blown call in Detroit was very unfortunate, as was the blown call in Seattle. In terms of our game, would we have gone on to win? Hard to say--I liked our chances, but that is baseball. I threw a little fit and went to bed angry, but the sun came up again today... My point is, you get breaks FOR you and AGAINST you, that is the game of baseball. Would replay have salvaged both bad calls? Yes. Do I think we should use more instant replay? HE** NO! Why even have umps at all? Why not use computer tracking for balls and strikes and have monitor reviews of every play? We need the human element in these games--it is the occasional imperfection that keeps the drama in the game, IMO, and replay is a slippery slope...once we move from home run review to any type of base review we can never go back. Our 3 hour games will become 3.5 hour games and viewership will drop off dramatically. How many of the 20 "perfect" games included situations where a guy was actually safe on the same type of call but called out? To me, a PERFECT game would be 81 pitches, all swinging strikes, 27 Ks, no need to review ( called third strikes out of the zone could skew this result, hence they are "swinging" strikes ).

[nofishfisherman]

The thing that has always bothered me about baseball officiating is the lack of accountability with most umps and how some of them seem to hold a grudge.

With some umps if you argue one ball/strike with them the odds of getting a strike 3 called against you during your next at bat seems to go up.

Some of these guys act like they are gods out there with out the ability to make a mistake. I give the guy credit for admitting his mistake in the detroit game but an apology would do little to satisfy me if he just took away a perfect game from me.

I'd like to see some sort of increased replay and some greater effort to take the umps out of the game as much as possible. The game is about the players not the men in blue, some of the umps seem to forget about that sometimes.

[Scott K]

It wouldnt increase the game time by much, how long did it take us to see they they were outs? aquick replay by someone upstairs, and to tell the ump, wrong call reverse it, may take 30 seconds, if that. Or better yet, if it is a close play, and the ump is unsure, dont even make the call, just wait for the call to come in from upstairs. If there is someone there in front of the screen, it should be just seconds to get the call down to the umps.

[pikestabber]

It wouldnt increase the game time by much, how long did it take us to see they they were outs? aquick replay by someone upstairs, and to tell the ump, wrong call reverse it, may take 30 seconds, if that. Or better yet, if it is a close play, and the ump is unsure, dont even make the call, just wait for the call to come in from upstairs. If there is someone there in front of the screen, it should be just seconds to get the call down to the umps.

I would go along with that if it was so simple, but it wouldn't be. As with home run reviews, ALL UMPS have to look at it and confer after trotting into the booth, then the head ump has to make the final determination and inform each manager, then the play resumes. Three minutes, minimum. I have seen many games where if replay was available, they would have used it 5-6 times at least. That's 15-20 minutes right there...

[Big Dave2]

1st of all, what is the difference if a pitcher pitches a perfect game? I don't understand why there is such a significance placed on this. Baseball is a TEAM game and this pitcher should have already blown his "perfect game" if it were not for a terriffic play by one of his outfielders to make an over the shoulder catch for the out before this one. The team won the game and that is the most important factor. The call blown at 2nd base in the Twins game last night was to me a worse blown call because it potentially could have decided the outcome of the game but this blown call will not get any media coverage.

I am not even for using replay the way it is used now let alone expanding it but my position on replay is that if you are going to use it, use it for everything. A lot of times an out at first or a fair ball that is called foul or even a called strike can end up being just as big of a play in the course of a game than a homerun call. A run is a run no matter how it is scored.

That being said I would HATE to see replay used in baseball and the umpires human element taken away. This human element has been there throughout the history of the game but we just notice it more now with our high definition super slow motion replays that are possible with todays technology. This same call was probably blown at a game 80 years ago but no one knew it was blown at the time because no one had instant replay.

[hcmpls1]

So Selig is reviewing the tapes from the Detroit game last night... and then what? If he were to overturn the call and make it a perfect game that'd be B S.

Like Big Dave said, this is a team game. Not an individual sport. No perfect game because of the bad call but the Tigers still won. The Twins on the otherhand had the game stole from them with the bad call in Seattle last night...

Better believe Dale Scott will be getting an earful from me for 9 straight innings the next times he's at Target Field.

[ozzie]

it is a team game......you don't think that the position players like to be a part of the winning team in a perfect game......that means they as a whole team played a perfect game!!! Perfect game means no errors also remember!!! and why is it such a big deal?????? how about that prior to this year in 120+ years of major league baseball there have only bee 18 recorded perfect games prior to this year and now there are 20 (should be 21). I am not sure how I feel about them going back and changing the call at this point though. I like when things are made correctly but if it were to be corrected it should have been done on the field by the umpiring staff and not Bud Selig and the higher ups....it should open the door to have challenges or replay use in situations like this though as I hate it when the wrong call is made and the replays show it over and over again that the wrong call was made and we all know that one play can change the game!!!!!!

[harvey lee]

A team wins a call now and then and then looses one. I bet it evens out by the end of the season.

If they did the replay like football. it could take 5 minutes at a minimum.

[PierBridge]

I'll tell you who really cost them the game was Cabrera....what the E'll was he doing going for that ball which would have been a routine play for the 2nd basemen and an easier call.

I think the 1st base umpire and Cabrera just got caught up in the moment and basically melted under the pressure.

[pikestabber]

If they overturn that call and change it to a perfect game it will be the death of baseball! Can you even IMAGINE the line of appeals and complaints and other such garbage that would immediately crop up and cripple this sport? You don't think they had terrible calls a hundred years ago, too? The only difference now is that we have replay, slow-mo, twenty five camera angles, and a plethora of media outlets to seethe their anger and disappointment in these "horrendous calls"...the same calls that 99.9% of us would be unable to see and call correctly in real speed. I say forget it and move on. It sucks, but that is all there is to it. Don't ruin the few scraps of dignity this game has left by making it into a "Law & Order, Special Baseball Unit" or some such nonsense!

[PierBridge]

I agree and don't worry they aren't going to expand replay.

[Big Dave2]

it is a team game......you don't think that the position players like to be a part of the winning team in a perfect game......that means they as a whole team played a perfect game!!! Perfect game means no errors also remember!!! and why is it such a big deal?????? how about that prior to this year in 120+ years of major league baseball there have only bee 18 recorded perfect games prior to this year and now there are 20 (should be 21). I am not sure how I feel about them going back and changing the call at this point though. I like when things are made correctly but if it were to be corrected it should have been done on the field by the umpiring staff and not Bud Selig and the higher ups....it should open the door to have challenges or replay use in situations like this though as I hate it when the wrong call is made and the replays show it over and over again that the wrong call was made and we all know that one play can change the game!!!!!!

The whole team contributes to the perfect game but who will get the credit for it? ONLY THE PITCHER. If this pitcher would be remembered for throwing a perfect game 20 years from now, is anyone going to know who the right fielder was?

The TEAM won the game, that is what is important.