goblueM Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 a grand on the buck, 500 each for the other two deerand while i agree if he kept his mouth shut he wouldnt have gotten caught, the tone of the original post seemed like it was condoning such behavior. regardless, its a shame the buck was poached Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchPhotoFilet Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Hey whether you chose you believe the facts thats up to you. Id be willing to bet 75% of all major fines are because of a sportsman bragging about what they had done to the wrong person. Not everyone is going to rat someone out but the overwhelming majority will in a heartbeat. Any law can be broken and go forever unnoticed if a little care and precautions are taken.Its up to the individual to decide if the risk is worth taking and just to whom you share your information with! I dont condone poaching in anyway but it goes on and its always going to be a present factor during deer season and out of season. I know several backwoods guys in NW mn who basically shoot their deer before the season even starts and have done so for the last 50yrs of their life without penalty.Shinning baiting poaching it all goes on no matter how who thinks its right or wrong. People do it some get caught and some dont. But the ones who are good at it dont and most likely never will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakAttack Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I hate scumbags like this but...Alot of people have bent the law when it comes to hunting and fishing whether its a one bullhead over the limit or a big game animal poached.Some get caught and alot don't.I know i will get ripped a new one but this guy is innocent until proven guilty in the United States of America.The guy has a criminal record and its ugly but let the facts play out before we asked for this guys head.I don't know the guy, don't want to, and hope he will get the max that the law will give him if he is found guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsavre Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Like people have said, alot of shady things happen while hunting and always will. This guy could have gotten away with it, easily. I dont promote any illegal actions while hunting, but it wouldnt be hard to get away with it. What about all you guys who have your wives draw buck tags, and wait, your wives dont hunt. Maybe that isnt as bad as this guy, but illegal none the less. Or all you guys that bait, or hunt from your stand at other peoples land. Once again i do non of these things and never will, but people cheat all the time. No body would have even cared if it was 3 does shot by this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 LOL..innocent until proven guilty?...media giving bad rap? some of you guys must of just fell off the pumpkin truck....he admitted to DNR he shot and transported and possessed illegal untagged and unregistered deer.no one wins against DNR they have more authority then anyone basically...especially when you already admitted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I wonder just how many deer this guy would have shot by the end of the year? Bottom line is this guy broke the law and got caught...I'm glad he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Now if MN only had the same penalties as states like Ohio. This guy could be looking at a fine closer to $15-20K instead of a measly $2K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLundFishrman Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 What will the DNR do with the antlers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 More than likely use them as a display item to promote TIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 thats the kind of rack i need to rattle in the buck i'm looking for!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Miller Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I read that the fine could be up to $19,000 and it sounds like the antlers will go on the DNR Wall of Shame. What gits me is that he deprived a law abiding person the chance at the record and a deer of a lifetime. Now the record is dead...that is truely a shame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propster Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The record doesn't have to be dead. If it indeed is the largest 8 pointer of all time (they don't keep "records" of these like world record 8 pt or world record 10 pt), I still say the DNR should enter it in Boone & Crockett, if they are now the new owner of the antlers. That way at least the state gets recognized as having produced the animal. Heck, I'll donate the entry fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 on the news they said they were gonna try to enter it under the state of MN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Miller Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 That would be cool....Ya I wasnt sure how those records are kept. It sure is a heck of a lot bigger than anything I ever shot. Where we hunt they just dont grow racks like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 i think alot of you would be surprised what a little QDM and nutrition can do...i also think alot of you would be surprised what kind of bucks actually are in your area that you will never see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningBG Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 WOWMaybe everyone on here should just torture him and put him to death? I don't agree with his behavior, but he is innocent until proven guilty. Simple as that. If he would have shot two 4 pointers it would be just as illegal, but nobody would be raising any whoop-la about it. Would be just another infraction, happens every day (not that it should).His wrap sheet doesn't suggest he's any type of career criminal, as a "career" criminal would probably have to make some money off of it.And a lifelong poacher? come on... Nobody knows this guy has ever poached a single animal before this year. I really wonder what everyone would say if something similar happened with minor changes.... Lets say he had all the proper tags but didn't register the deer. Equally as bad? What if he had a friend or neighbor tag a deer? What if he wasn't wearing orange in gun season. As bad. Enough with the crucifying of someone. He's accused of doing something wrong, which I don't condone, but give it a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamus Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 why does it always got to be the monster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreyd Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 it would not be fun to the ---hole if it werent a monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman678 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 WOWMaybe everyone on here should just torture him and put him to death? I don't agree with his behavior, but he is innocent until proven guilty. Simple as that. LBG, he already admitted to it, how can you possibly say innocent until proven guilty when the guy already told authorities that he did it? By admitting to the crime, aren't you saying you're guilty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njpierz Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 How many of you have ever hunted in an earn a buck zone? Here's something to think about-Would you let that monster walk by at 645 am on opener before tagging a doe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Buck Buster Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Hopefully the doe is right next to it when you shoot. Get two for the price of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mknolls Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 In earn a buck Zone I would let a record buck go before I shot a doe. Why you say because that is the law. And who would know for sure your going to get a doe. That is way sportsmen get a bad rap in the public's eye. People think they can bend the rules a little so it works in there favor. And then brag it up in the bar later. Of course if you break the law why not go all the way and hunt, shot what ever you want when you want. The fine that is proposing on the guy who shot the buck as far as I'm concerned If found guilty in the laws eye should go to Jail five years lose all hunting privileges in a five state area. You think once he loses in court he still ant going to hunt. This guys has been breaking the law his whole live. He sure ant going to change now. How many years in the past do you think he has not registered his deer in the past? Be an avid law biding sportsmen in everything you hunt or fish and us sportsmen would be now en for the things we contribute to like more hunting and state land money for duck habitat, the lakes we all pay to have fingerling stocking and a thousand other things we contribute to for sportsmen and outdoor enthusiast of all kinds. Breaking the law no matter how you do it is still breaking the law. I wish we had harsher penalties for those how do so. MK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Buck Buster Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I hope you weren't referring to my last post. I was only kidding. I have never hunted in an "earn your buck" zone. I would not hesitate to hunt in one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mknolls Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I never hunted in one ether. I think that it would be great if MN implemented it. If nothing else it would give a lot bucks a chance to get bigger. And know I was not referring to you. Just commenting on njpierz. Not sure if he would consider shooting a buck first or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96trigger Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I'm still wondering how anybody can stick up for this guy. Aside from the poaching, he sounds like a real great individual. I guess it shows something about our society. So he has a rap sheet, so he smokes a little weed and got caught, so he hit someone a couple of times, maybe drinks a little too much, etc.... So maybe when he hits you at a bar and gives you stitches or a concussion, or kills a family on the way home because he was driving drunk, you'll change your tune. I have NO time for guys like this. He admitted to the killing of other deer, he has been convicted of previous crimes. Where is he being prosecuted unjustly? I will not sentence him, or say what he should get as punishment as that is not my place. But I can't for the life of me, see how anybody can stick up for this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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