WOW" Are we lazy or what"?

[Big A]

really unfortunate the way this thread took a turn.

It has been mentioned before because it is an amazing problem. Take a look at the photos from last weekends Rush Lake Cleanup.. it is appalling to realize the amount of junk left on the lake by others.

Oh yeah... the photos are in the East Central Lakes area under Help for Rush Lake...

Sad that some us of have to pick up after so many of "them" .. but it is what it is and needs to be done for the future of our sport...

Lets get back on point and stop acting like juveniles...

Thanks Gentleman

[weld1]

Do you think these people that do this are the same ones that throw there cig butts out the window and think they just dissapear?? Not to offend anyone but its just a thought.

[cold one sd]

I was at a small lake a couple of weeks ago and found 5 empty propane bottles and 2 soup cans in the same spot. This is a walk on only lake and I would think that if someone can carry a cooker/heater, propane cylinders and canned soup on the ice, they would be able to carry it off again.

[cold one sd]

calvin- most people are really stubborn, especially the older generation of fisherman. i have seen guys throw pop cans down their holes. and when i asked why. they would say "when i was a boy my dad taught me to throw all my pop cans in the water, the make a good home for alot of fish"

if its a habit to some people. its just like quitting smoking. its hard

Where did you conduct the survey of the "older generation of fishermen" at? Or is this just a personal generalization??

[Marbleye'd]

Swill - came across this post that you made in another forum

Originally Posted By: Swill

Garbage in the oceans is good. Just watch survirorman, and he uses garbage all time to survive. I would hate to be stranded without some old rope, rubber hose, pop can, metal scraps, paper to start a fire, etc.

Look at it this way, museums are filled with ancient garbage, so it will help future generations to figure out how we lived.

I guess that expains your attitude towards this topic. Pretty sad.

Survirorman?? Really?? "future generations" This is the reason we want slobs to take there bagged up cr@p and other garbage with them OFF THE LAKE!

[UdeLakeTom]

We did too in the '60s. Times have changed. We also used tires to make paths down to the lake when there wasn't a road or a natural path....Would I still do it??? No way. But it wasn't just our parents, it was the way to get rid of things back then. I am very happy that most of the new generations look at things much differently.

[NCLaker]

If I would have had more time & help, I would have seperated out the aluminum cans and donated them to the Green Lake Assoc. They have a big collection dumpster at the Chisago lakes Liquor parking lot. They use the proceeds to help control Eurasion Milfoil in that lake.

Come to think of it, maybe I should have our lake assoc, put one of those big recycle dumpsters at the landing. Would probably have to empty it every couple weeks. Money would be put back into improving the lakes. Now that N/S Center Lakes have E.Milfoil, the funds will com in handy.

The wood I collected helped replenish my bonfire wood supply, and I actually picked up a few nice 2x4's that will go towards some new shelving I need to build.

[OTBASSER]

I know what you mean. I just got some nice 4x4 blocking tonight.

[Neighbor_guy]

To answere the question posted in the title... Yes, some people are lazzy. We are also surrounded by slobs. And some people suck at life.

I picked up 8 bags of trash around the parking lot at work today (medical complex) and did not even get half of the grounds. People are pigs and no one cares, "someone else will pick it up". In the winter it all gets covered with snow. A "clean slate" every couple of days. In the summer people are picking up after the pigs everyday, most people just dont notice.

IMO it is just another reason to pull the plug on the permanent houses. If people had to pull em in everynight they would not leave as much junk piled up next to the house or in the banking. I hate to say it and I am generalizing, but most of this trash is left by the permy's. Just my observations. Shoot the mesanger if you feel the need, keep in mind, I will shoot back.

[McGurk]

We also used tires to make paths down to the lake when there wasn't a road or a natural path....Would I still do it??? No way.

Why not? Chalk that up to the ReUse part of Reduce/ReUse/Recycle. What's worse: Burning the tires, Burying the tires, or coming up with another use for the same tires after their initial task was completed? We had better not use those tire for swings, either. Or dock bumpers. Or under Pontoons for storage. ??? Why not? They aren't doing the environment any short term harm other than giving mosquitoes a place to reproduce.

I've seen shredded tires sold in a bag for a pretty premium price to be used in playgrounds. Is that littering? Getting a second, or even a third use out of a product is better than recycling in my opinion.

And beleive me; I don't like the slobs out there either. When pulling off my perm house this year I picked up blocking from about 3 different houses, and had to use my chisel to get about half of the junk loose. Beer bottles, cans, 1 lb propane tanks, McD's bags, it's all pretty sad, and I pick it all up. I do draw the line at feces, though.

[DTro]

I have an idea, for anyone that is caught littering, their punishment should be to spend an entire weekend cleaning up that lake in the early spring. Make sure all the news crews are out there to film the whole thing too.

Someone needs to be made an example of.

[carpmanjake]

Originally Posted By: carpmanjake

calvin- most people are really stubborn, especially the older generation of fisherman. i have seen guys throw pop cans down their holes. and when i asked why. they would say "when i was a boy my dad taught me to throw all my pop cans in the water, the make a good home for alot of fish"

if its a habit to some people. its just like quitting smoking. its hard

Where did you conduct the survey of the "older generation of fishermen" at? Or is this just a personal generalization??

i posted my own personal experience as an example. just saying that once something becomes a habit. it can be hard to stop

[JimBuck]

Agreed. Public humiliation is a great disciplinary tool. I've heard of a few electronic billboards that have the pictures and names of "jon's" that have been convicted of illegal activities in mpls. This could apply to those no good litter bugs and slobs as well.

Personally, I'd like to see the person that litters tied to a post for the weekend in the local garbage dump.

[metro fisherman]

I would like to thank a man who was picking up South Center with who i assume are his daughters. Its good people like that who often go unnoticed and deserve thanking.

[Wanderer]

People seem to be oblivious to the trash.

When we were cleaning around the folks fishing, hardly anyone would look at us.

Got a couple thank you's and a couple people grabbed a few things themselves. That was nice. And a couple people just asked how it was going - have you caught any?

I said "Lots!" to one guy (while chiseling blocking) and he asks "Crappies?!".

I didn't have any fishing gear with. Baffling.

If you don't care, you won't see it. When you do care, it makes you mad.

I'm just hoping all this commentary starts turning the tide and starts making more of us notice what's happening so we can change it.

[Big A]

"Crappies?!"

Now thats funny right there !

Your picking up trash.. and he asks about fishing.

Small taste of some of the people I meet at my job from time to time .. LOL

[gatorhunter]

Unfortunately this a huge, huge issue in Manitoba. Especially on the Crown Jewel of walleye fishing, the Red River. These are just a fraction of what is left over by permanent fish house owner/occupants.

[UdeLakeTom]

Thanks (?) for sharing...that kind of attitude is downright discusting.

[hondarider550]

Isn't that terrible... What are these people thinking? That it will all just disappear and not affect the lake any?? Wow... Yes lazy for sure...

[52luge]

It seems like the FM'ers have to clean up after the MF'ers.

[TonkaBass]

Wow, those pics make me sick. Some peoples kids!

[Marbleye'd]

Is there nobody that knew who's houses those were? I mean that I had to have my name and or lic# in 3" type blah blah blah we all had to. But isn't that so they/we would be acountable for that area ten ft around the house? I'm not one who likes seeing co's while I'm fishing (although I have never had anything to hide or gotten a ticket for anything either) but shouldn't there be one that takes pics from time to time to know who is where? They should place a warning on the door to let the owner know they are being recorded.

[Bottle Fish]

Those pics are the worst Ive ever seen. Wow, some people really need to get turned in.

[Big A]

I am speechless...

[Swill]

yeah in one picture you can see a few homes in the background. Any chance they might fish or would have been on the lake?

I would call the co asap