TrophyEyes Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 They do have potential to become big bucks. That is what I read anyways. They most likely won't be part of the dominant breading population the first year anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Amish Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 i think that culling "poor quality bucks" from your hunting ground to "improve genetics" is the biggest farce in the hunting world. Unless your huting land is 10 square miles, it just wouldn't work. It is a known fact that the majority of young bucks will disperse the area where they were born. Some studies have shown young bucks will travel anywhere from a few miles to 20 miles and even further. it is natures way of preventing imbreeding.also, a lot of smaller antlered deer grow small antlers their first year because they were born late and are still playing catchup from going into their first winter undersized. energy taken into the body always goes towards the deers overall health and body size, then into the antlers. this is one of the theories why an equal doe to buck ratio will promote bigger bucks. when there are more does than bucks, some does will end up being bred later in the fall and thus will have their fawn(s) late the next spring which often causes the fawn (if a male) to have small antlers during its second summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 apparently you haven't read about it much. It has been studied over and over again and poven that it does work. If you choose not to do it more power to you, but I am going with the experts on this one and taking out undersirable bucks. Nuff said, let's get back to some pics boys and girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwieler Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 this just in from the woods!!! (moultre 4.0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Nice pics. Thanks for sharing with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Christianson Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Holy hanner!!!!!! NICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Holy smokes, a 12pt with split brows...what a trophy. thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunrevir Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Nice pics, That twelve will get the old heart pumping! Tunrevir~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Amish Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 what experts are claiming that taking out spikes improves genetics. trying to improve antler genetics in a wild free roaming deer herd is about as impossible as it gets. most bucks in mn dont live long enough to even reach their gentic potential. how could anyone possibly know that a 1 1/2 yr old deer has bad genetics and won't turn into a trophy deer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimngrizzly Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 B. Amish, you are 100% correct! If you wanna cull deer effectively you better wait wait until theyre about 4 1/2 years old. They have found many spikes that grew to be Boone & Crockets! Even a buck with poor genes would still be a trophy to most at maturity!!! Let them go, you never know for sure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Christianson Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I kinda have a spot in my hear for non-typs(aka genetically deficient). So no culling for this guy. Are we saying this deer shoulda been culled as a youngster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 That will be the twin to my next wall mounter! I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABS4ME Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Mark, I thought I told you, "under no circumstances are you to photograph my deer mount", when I let you come over to look at it! Sheeeesh... next time I'm gonna have to make sure you leave your camera phone in the truck! hehehe Good Luck! Ken p.s. for the record, the 'experts' are all changing their song and dance on culling spikes and forks. Many articles written over the last couple years on this subject... With the research that has been completed the last few years, they have found out the 1st rack has little impact on the mature rack of a buck. A better gauge is their 3 1/2 year old rack. Barring injury, they will not grow any more points on their main frame (does not incld. kickers, stickers, drops and other trash)... just the main frame. You have the ability to judge their trophy potnetial at that stage. This is now the protocol for all the big pay to shoot ranches. The 'management bucks' that they let you shoot for cheap, are bigger than most bucks any of us will ever get in our lifetime. You are not allowed to shoot young deer (spikes through 6 pointers) any longer at many of these operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimngrizzly Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Not that I dont like it.... but if were gonna go on about this we should move it to a different post! Maybe no need, it seems most agree!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Amish Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyEyes Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Those look like some pretty young bucks. Maybe 3 1/2 at the most. If you let them walk this year you will have some monsters. Those two look like brothers. That 9 point might be a year older than the eight. But it looks like you have four nice bucks there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucker34 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Nice bucks. Easily considered trophies in Kandiyohi County where I hunt and wouldn't hesitate to take them. Lots and lots of does. Very few bucks as the yearlings and spikes typically get wiped out the first gun season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodyDawg Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 B.Amish, That first buck has a weird looking nose. I would cull him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antler_Creek_Taxidermy Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Here is a cool pic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwieler Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 thats an awesome picture antler creek!!! i was setting up a stand and swapped the memory card there was only two pics on there. this was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyEyes Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 You might want to shoot that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuciandTim Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Here are a few small bucks from my feeder cam last night..... Think these are all 1 1/2 yr old deer?? Maybe 2 1 /2 yr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 her are a few from the hunting shack. I am not commenting on which ones we will harvest and which we will save to save myself from getting ripped apart on here. [image] [/image] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABS4ME Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Nova, I say *boom*, *boom* and *boom*...! Nice bucks! Good Luck! Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyEyes Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I'd shoot. Good luck seeing them during shooting hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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