Butts on the Ice

[McGurk]

As was ORIGINALLY stated, I could care less if you smoke, it's your call. Just please use the ashtrays in your car/truck and use a recepticle of your choice on the ice to bring 'em back off in. The pigs are the ones pitching smokes out the windows and everywhere they decide to stop that specific cigarette, not the ones pitching them in the trash. Even the window ashing bothers me, but I can handle that.

Good luck in quitting if you so choose. I, thank God, never started even though I had smoking parents and sisters. I got to see each one of them quit separately and it was tough on every one of them, but they did all quit, and have remained smokefree. Not nevessarily chew free, though.

[Mark Gangl]

speaking of chew that is another disgusting one to see all over. though i'd rather see the chew than have to see and worst of all smell the smokers! Out for some nice fresh air until they pull up and light up. Or even driving down the road and get behind one, you can smell it from 1/4 mile back, they want the smoke so why open the window and let it out to those of us who dont. Peddle to the floor and put the BEHIND me! If I have to risk a ticket to not smell them thats what i do

[Augusta]

Hmmmm...now I know why I quit smoking....I agree, pick up your trash before you leave the lake please

[IcePro]

I am in favor of the state putting a deposit on all cigarette butts. Therefore us non smokers that clean up the butts can return them for the deposit to make some extra cash.

[CrappieAttitude]

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I am in favor of the state putting a deposit on all cigarette butts. Therefore us non smokers that clean up the butts can return them for the deposit to make some extra cash.

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Wouldn't that be great...You could tell the wives that our hobbies now are a new source of income. It is sad that it has come to this even being a consideration. I would be ok getting a home testing DNA kit and sending the culprits a littering bill.

[BLACKJACK]

As a runner that has spent my share of time running along roads, whats really disgusting is that besides the cigarette butts, when smokers are done with the pack, guess what else goes out the window? The empty pack. And when the lighter is empty, where does it go? Out the window. Pigs.

I think we all need to pick up garbage when we see it, to discourage more dumping. Just last weekend I was picking up at a public hunting area parking lot - beer bottles and A&W wrappers. Pigs. And sometimes, its inadverdent, we've all had the experience out on the lake where its windy, your buddy opens the door the same time you do, and stuff goes flying out, never to be seen again. We just need to keep picking up and educating people.

[CrappieAttitude]

On a similar subject...Does anyone know why some public access have garbage cans while others don't. I live in an area where there are many lakes that have nice government signs telling you about all the lake information and how important it is to check for milfoil ect, but I have come across too many times garbage sitting right next to the signs. I feel that if there were cans availiabe, it would rid of alot of the issues. But they still would need to bring the trash with them off the lake.

[Farley]

On the lake I do the thing where you roll the cherry off and put the butts in my pocket, but if I'm driving down the road and someone is riding my @ss behind me (meaning I cant even see their tail lights over my tailgate), then I have no problem strategically tossing a cig butt out the window and onto thier windshield. Works every time.

[metrojoe]

Guilty as charged. I quit smoking about 5 years ago, but I was a butthead. I threw them out the windows and on the ice. I never left any other type of trash on the ice, but for some reason the butts didn't bother me.

Somebody on this site had a great idea for carriying a trash bag. Just stuff one of the plastic grocery bags into a 35mm film container. It came in handy on Mille Lacs last Saturday. Which reminds me, I need to replace that bag.

[Guest]

Im a chain-smoker.. my pockets get filled with butts on a regular basis.. the empty cig packs.. most are floating around in my van.. I never throw them out the window.

Whoever dropped the steriotype on the pack flying out the window too... give it up. If that were the case the ditches would be 2' deep with packs. I see more fast food wrappers than I do packs! Going to blame that on the smokers too?

I agree, nobody should litter, and I personaly go out of my way not to. Some people are just slobs, smokers, and non smokers alike. Here in Minnesota people are pretty good about littering and keeping things picked up.. go to the eastern part of the country and see what the lakes look like there, youll be sick! Its not from the fishermen, but from the tourist mostly. The perfect example is Linesville spillway on Pymatuning reservoir on the PA/OH border.. *where the ducks walk on the fish*.. nice little concession stand there to sell popcorn and day old bread to feed the birds/fish(carp). The spillway is a very popular place for fishermen also, and the upper side is a fish hathery. The fishing there can be excellent, but use a boober or you will catch numeraous bread bags, the shoreline is litterally solid bread bags including out into the water as far as you can see the bottom(drops quick). It would literally take a team of guys several days with pitchforks to clean it up. Friends of mine that live in eastern canada that spend lots of time in the outdoors call the many american tourist coming up *terrorist*, not tourist, because they are really bad about litter.

People are pigs... and its going to get worse if people dont make an effort.

[ozzie]

I always buy minnows even if it is a half a scoop for a few reasons.....A) I like to put minnow under a bobber Gives the local bait shop some support C) They give you a bag that I fill with my trash and any trash I encounter on the way off the lake!!!!! This includes cig butts......

[BigDaddy]

That's what the nickles in the ashtray are for.

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On the lake I do the thing where you roll the cherry off and put the butts in my pocket, but if I'm driving down the road and someone is riding my @ss behind me (meaning I cant even see their tail lights over my tailgate), then I have no problem strategically tossing a cig butt out the window and onto thier windshield. Works every time.

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[Flaco651]

I have had quite a few people that I fish with change their ways. I bring a bag along for all my trash, including cigarette butts. I will even pick up other trash in the area we are fishing just to prevent it from making it to the water. A lot of my fishing buddies have seen that and have chosen to do the same if they were not already doing so.

[MNmikew]

I have nothing against smokers. I enjoy a fine cigar now and then. I just have problems with the slob ones. Last I looked most cars today STILL HAVE ASHTRAYS IN THEM !!!!!

[McGurk]

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I have nothing against smokers. I enjoy a fine cigar now and then. I just have problems with the slob ones. Last I looked most cars today STILL HAVE ASHTRAYS IN THEM !!!!!

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Funny thing is, some cars do not have an ashtray standard anymore. There is a option that needs to be selected if it is not lumped in with a different package. You still have the 12 volt power source though (it used to be called a cigarette lighter )

[Blaze]

Meat run - a couple years ago I was next to a guy that chucked his butt out the window as we pulled up to a stoplight. I quickly put the window down on my passenger side and flagged my arms to get his attention. When I did, I pointed to the back of his truck and said in a nice, helpful manner, "Just wanted you to know something just fell out of your truck". It helped that he was a painter and had a ton of rollers, cans, and ladders in his truck bed. Of course, he hops out and runs back looking to see what tools fell out, and after seeing nothing on the road he realized what I was talking about. He gave me a pi$$y look and said "Smarta$$", to which I replied, "At least I'm smart enough not to throw $hit out the window".

Timing was good. The light turned green and I was gone before he even got back in his truck.

Words can communicate your point almost as well as a mock carjacking.

[davidr]

I always love how concerned people are about the environment when its someone else doing it....i bet the same people that have issues with cigarette butts have a buried freezer in there backyard or dump there used oil in the ground...lol.but dont worry kids, pretty soon we wont even be able to smoke in our own homes.

[DTro]

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I am in favor of the state putting a deposit on all cigarette butts. Therefore us non smokers that clean up the butts can return them for the deposit to make some extra cash.

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That Sir is one of the greatest ideas I've ever heard.

[katoguy]

But, never will happen, dtro.

Make sure those of you so willing to cast the first stone don't live in glass houses. (Does you vehicle drip a little oil and you haven't quite gotten around to getting it fixed? Do you spit your snuff on the ice? Do you recycle everything possible at home? etc....)

katoguy( formerly nicotine stained fingers)

[Bob Horn]

Ditto on the deposit!!! I thought I was the only one who thought this way. Way can't there be a law against the illegal dumping of cig butts. 1st time caught $100 fine then $500 then $1000. If get caught again you get a time out in a jail cell because you didn't learn from the first 3 chances. Yes, I know littering of anything is on the books but until something specific is there nothing is done. Especially when a lot of cops smoke. The writers of the tickets.

[DTro]

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But, never will happen, dtro.

Make sure those of you so willing to cast the first stone don't live in glass houses. (Does you vehicle drip a little oil and you haven't quite gotten around to getting it fixed? Do you spit your snuff on the ice? Do you recycle everything possible at home? etc....)

katoguy(

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nicotine stained fingers)

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I agree that in some sense we all are a little guilty here and there, but for the most part the examples you gave are organic and will break down much quicker than a butt.

Maybe it would be easier to force the tobacco companies to formulate a quick decomposing butt?

[The Grebe]

Some of you guys must be following my brother and my nephews around? Them guys are something else when it comes to them butts!

Their cars look just as dumpy as their fish houses, with the pile of butts in the corner and I'm sure that in the summer, they have started a grass fire or two over the years.

I drew the line a long time ago about smoking in my truck and my fish house. I lost a couple of fishing partners because of it, but it got to the point where it was like being in a smoker...Morey's didn't have anything on these guys except a much better smell.

I've had holes burnt in stuff I've had on the trailer, or in back the truck...even had a coal come in and burn a hole in my coat once.

You can tell em all you want and sometimes it will change for a short while, but then it always comes right back to business as usual, butts everywhere.

[Bob Clausen]

McGurk, I truly mean no direspect to you, but your hierarchy of ecological priorities fascinates me. Cigarette butts on the ice are anathema but trucks under the ice seem to be acceptable. Like I said...fascinating!

bob

[McGurk]

I was wondering how long it would take you to find me here! I'll reply over on your other post.

[Kodiak]

istead of making them pay a fine for throwing a butt down they should make em eat it. Keep your butts of the ice AND the road. Some (Contact Us Please) threw his butt out the window and it landed smack down under my windshield wipers on my new truck and got stuck by the hood and put a burn mark on the paint...and another time we where at a hotel on a motorcycle trip and some (Contact Us Please) flicked a butt off the balcony and it landed on my brothers bmw motorcycle and burnt the painted plastic on his upper cowl, the butt sat on there all night and smoldered...IDIOTS!!!