Johnson must go

[tcroz]

I'm all for that I would love to have the "Gunslinger" on our side!!!!1

[nofishfisherman]

Favre completes more passes to the other team then he does to his own recievers.

As long as we are talking about trades that will never happen why don't we go trade for Peyton Manning and then in the off season we'll bring in Eli to be his back up. Maybe we can even go get their dad to coach the recievers and we can get their mom to bake cookies for the entire team.

Now thats a winning strategy.

[Rip_Some_Lip]

There you go stirring the pot again tcroz...

I think the recievers need to step up! The runing game has been a disapointment the last couple of games also. I thought we would be able to run at will. I question the play calling at times too. Hmm where to stop?

Oh have you been out in the boat latley tcroz? I have been thinking of giving it one last time soon and then its hunting time.

[drizzle]

After reading many of these post I realize that many of you so called Vikings fans are never happy nor do you see any of the positives. The Vikings have only played 4 games and already the grumbling started. Why do so many of you take it so personally when your team loses? How do you expect a team to reach greatness when it seems like the majority of fans are so negative. Of coarse you're all intitled to your opinion but use some common sense. I would love just for one season see the fans coach this team and after weeks of stupid changes and mindless complaining maybe then you would see it's NOT freakin easy to win in this league.

[not_nuf_time]

I think we're looking at this Johnson thing all wrong, from what I see, our new coach is about as competent as the head scratcher he replaced. Seems like he talked a big game of disapline and offensive knowledge. The last play of the previous two games were the stupidest pro calls I've seen. Youth coaches do better play calls and clock mangement at the end of games.

[tcroz]

Another rivoting performance by Johnson! I may not know what I am talking about but either do the announcers on radio and TV. They both said the same thing I was saying. His inability to throw the deep ball is killing the Vikes! Defense does not score two, we lose to the worst team in the NFL!!!! Sometimes the truth hurts.

[lawdog]

I figured this thread would be heated up again today.

That offense is hideous!!!!

[buzzsaw]

Just a side note: The Super Bowl ruuner-up Seahawks managed 9 points on three field goals against the Lions earlier this year...

I don't blame him for not tossing the long pass, every time he does its right through one of his receivers arms or hands!! The real offensive issue is our lack of having a true #1 WR. We can blame it on either of the Brad's, but I just think they are calling and executing plays within their limits. I've pretty much come to the realization that is what we should expect week in and week out. If we put in a rookie QB will it make Childress call for more deep passes? Will having a rookie QB help our receivers hold onto perfectly thrown balls? I'm pretty sure the guys ripping the QB and coach here can pick up on my point, atleast I'd hope so. Your putting blame on the wrong people period.

I will say that we could mix in a trick play here and there as teams will expect us to dink and dunk, maybe a reverse or flea flicker against some of these overpursuing defenses.

[96trigger]

For the most part I thought the Vikings played better on Sunday, even though it was agains the Lions. However, the offense is still miserable. This week it was penalties that really killed drives. 2nd and short often turned into second and long. I really don't know what the deal was, the line looked better, Taylor ran great (Lions ranked 10th against the run), the recievers caught the ball, but we just couldn't put any points on the board. Caoching football is not easy, its the ultimate chess game where the pieces are alive. Some questions after Sundays game, where are the tight ends? Why do we constantly throw the short pass on 3rd and long? Where are the shots at the end zone when in the red zone? Run, Run, Run, thats all we seem to do inside the 20 and its put up mostly field goals, the one TD that we had Sunday was a pass. The game was for the most part, extremely boring.

By the way, does anybody else have a strong dislike for Mewelde Moore? I think hes absolutely terrible on special teams, its like the guy is afraid to get hit.

[beer batter]

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Run, Run, Run, thats all we seem to do inside the 20

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I'm fine with that as I have Chester Taylor on my fantasy team. Just needs to find the end zone.

[196thDLR]

I have not checked this site for a couple of weeks and lo & behold, there is a discussion about our QB. I have several opinions I would like to express.

1} I agree with everyone that the Vikes' receivers need to replace that slippery substance on their hands with some good ole' Jack Tatum stickem.

2} Our imaginative play calling is done by the HC, not the QB. The play calling reminds me of the Vikes 30 years ago. Off tackle left, off tackle right, incomplete pass and punt!

3} Gee--- our 100 million dollar offensive line is well worth the investment, right guy's? I wonder when we will see an ROI on this investment? Espceially, when it comes to pass protection, opening holes for the RB, and remembering the snap count!

4} Football is the ultimate in team sports, where 11 players are supposed to act as one. When the other 10 players on offense begin to function as one and the QB is not getting it done, then and only then, will I start to call for a change.

[tcroz]

You can not efficiently run an offense, when your QB cuts your playbook in half with his limitied ability. I have been trying to get that across no one listens!

[buzzsaw]

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know one listens

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It's actually NO one listens...

Thats what my wife always tells me, must be true.

[196thDLR]

tcroz; I am sure that my ignorance is showing, so please tell me why the playbook is cut in half with Brad as the QB?

[tcroz]

Watch the games ... it is self expalnatory. He has no arm strength, no mobility and limited accuracy. We are not talking of ignorance here, just opinion. My opinion is BJ will get us to 8-8 and no playoff appearance. That is all!

Can anyone argue that? My ignorance is backed up by every play by play analyst, and most every sportswriter in the 5 state area.

[fishinphilth]

I dont know if I would want to compare myself to the local sports writers. I agree he is not getting it done. Defence and Chester Taylor are getting it done, but not Johnson.

[196thDLR]

tcroz: We cannot be watching the same game together in different places. What I see is an offensive line, that is truely offensive! There has to be a reason Chester gets dropped in the backfield so often, or should he be sat down also? There are several passes dropped each game that the WR, or TE, or RB should have caught. What about this OFFENSIVE line; if the receivers are not dropping the ball and running backs aren't being dropped in the backfield, the line is being called for holding or a false start.

Brad has never been a mobile QB, even when he was with the Vikes early in his career. He has always had adequate arm strength too make all the throws required of a pro QB, and still does. Brad may not be able to put the team on his shoulders and carry them to the win, but he won't lose it for you with dumb mistakes either.

[tcroz]

I'll agree to disagree. Our offensive line is not bad and getting better each week. Chester had a pretty nice week last week. I will reiterate my point of mediocrity. My feeling is when T.Jackson gets healthy, throw him in. If he flops we go 4-12 he gains valueable experience, and the team gets a better draft pick. The Vikings offense is boring with Brad. JMO

[TNFL]

Nice win on Sunday!

[tcroz]

Great win for the "Purple". Defense now has surpassed Johnson in touchdowns scored. Watch it Mewlde and Longwell are hot on his heels!!

[bottomdweller]

Still think 8-8 with brad tc, more like 12-4 me thinks with the way they played yesterday. De looks great. Brad moved the ball well yesterday when the recievers caught them and we were not penalized. Big penalty in the red yesterday. But what do you think about the play calling? I didnt like the play calling in the fourth quarter it was like Childress was trying to let them catch up. But all in all a great win for the purple. Good test come monday nite.

[eyepatrol]

I thought it was a very good game yesterday, although I didn't see the whole thing. Personally, I thought the 4th quarter went just fine and was coached just fine. Ball control, run time off the clock, etc. Special teams did a good job too in the 2nd half.

So far I've been really impressed with our D. It's been a while for the Vikes since we've had a D that can persue and create havoc like they've been doing this year.

[PierBridge]

Bump..

[Flaco651]

That game was horrible.

[Splake]

P U