Bourbon and Whiskey

[Big Dave2]

  On 12/29/2016 at 6:09 PM, delcecchi said:

  This Pappy Winkle etc stuff is out of my league.   

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That's out of almost everyone's league. I think even your friend Donald would have a hard time getting his tiny hands on a bottle of the 23 yr. old Pappy Van Winkle.

[Jim Almquist]

I enjoy Eagles Rare and Woodford when I want sipping Bourbon. If I am going to mix I will use Jim Beam and mix it up with Coke and never with anything diet. I also enjoy Maker's Mark, Basil Hayden's and Knob Creek. Just got a bottle of Booker's for Christmas but I have not opened so I can't comment on how good it is but I know its spendy.

[Big Dave2]

  On 12/29/2016 at 3:54 PM, Ufatz said:

   after the second glass it all tastes pretty much the same. Like vodka. Ha Ha!

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Ummmmmm, no.

[Big Dave2]

Speaking of So Co, I need to pick up a bottle to make the customary Alabama Slammers for the National Championship game.

[Crow Hunter]

I was at an estate sale a few months ago and found a Crown Royal gift set; purple box with two lowball glasses and the bottle of Crown in the purple bag. The bottle had the paper seal over the cap with a tax stamp (remember when bottles came that way?) and the seal was unbroken. The date on the seal was .... 1979.   Bought the whole works for 12 bucks. Now that is some smooth whiskey.

[Wanderer]

  On 12/29/2016 at 3:13 PM, gunner55 said:

A local watering hole where I spent some time behind the bar had a bottle of your scotch sitting around Wanderer. A few tried it & then it sat around getting dusty. I've tied a few different scotches & Laphroaig is quite different from most the others that I've had.Very very smokey/earthy. 

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Definitely not for everyone.  But with every bottle you get claim to one square foot of ground on the Isle of Islay.  Once I own enough land to lay a sleeping bag on I'll go over and check on my investment. 

[delcecchi]

Are they guaranteed contiguous?

[Crow Hunter]

For scotch, my very favorite is Bunnahabhain. It is a 12 year old single malt and a great sipper.

[huntnfish]

Now this is my kind of thread! I'm not big on whiskey but can tolerate it. I'm about that same way with scotch. I have a friend that's big on the Laphroaig. I can do a glass but that's about it. It's a little too smokey for me. For bourbon I like Bulleitt. I also like the bourbon from Trader Joe's. It's cheap and good on the rocks. I'm not a mixer but if I need a little something it's either water or squirt. 

 

For beer I like shiner but I'm mainly a drinker of Americas best tasting beer. Nothing better than an ice cold Old Mill! The wife made me switch to diet after the wrongs things started jiggling more and more. Best part about Old Mill is that you can bring a cooler full to any gathering and no one is going to touch it. 

[RebelSS]

Bring a case of Western or Pfeiffer and you'll never, ever, have to share again!!   

[gunner55]

After I had sampled Laphroaig a few times, I got curious & had to read the label. Interesting stuff, the way they describe how they get that taste

[RebelSS]

My Dad used to drink J&B scotch. I tried it just once, and that was it. Just can't handle scotch or the bourbons.

[Dotch]

  On 12/30/2016 at 3:13 PM, RebelSS said:

Bring a case of Western or Pfeiffer and you'll never, ever, have to share again!!   

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We brought a case of Hackstein to a livestock show, put it in a "special" cooler a few years back and hid our normal supply. Even the beer zombies wouldn't touch it! 

 

Not a big whiskey guy but drink it sometimes when the mood strikes me. To me Scotch has always tasted like a postage stamp without the sweetness. Like my Crown & water when I'm too lazy to make a GT. Tincture (brandy) and cider works when I come in cold after chores at night. Works in the coffee sometimes in the morning too!  A little JD on the rocks once in a while will tickle my gizzard just right. Touring the Jack Daniels distillery in Lynchburg TN was a "must see" when my brother lived in Nashville. Even though there were no free samples (it's a dry county) the vapors wafting off the vat when the tour guide opened and closed the lid numerous times are still etched in my melon.

[Big Dave2]

  On 12/30/2016 at 4:00 PM, RebelSS said:

My Dad used to drink J&B scotch. I tried it just once, and that was it. Just can't handle scotch or the bourbons.

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I don't know much about Scotch but J&B is an entry level Scotch from one of the most mass produced brands there are. Unfortunately you get what you pay for in fine distilled spirits and some of the brands you have tried are probably not a fair representation of what a "good" Scotch or whiskey should taste like. 

 

Anyone who has never tried a quality bourbon drank "neat" or on the rocks and would like to try it without breaking the bank, I would suggest picking up a bottle of Jim Beam Black. This is one of the best lower-priced, gateway bourbons I have ever tried. 

[RebelSS]

I've had Johnie Walker Black and the Jim Beam...and...no thanks!!! Good ol' VO for me! (Or was) 

[Big Dave2]

Jim Beam and Jim Beam Black are nothing alike.

 

I've never had Johnnie Walker Black Label but I think Johnnie Walker is a blended whiskey like Seagrams"s? Not a bourbon.

[delcecchi]

  On 12/30/2016 at 4:11 PM, Big Dave2 said:

Unfortunately you get what you pay for in fine distilled spirits

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Unfortunately you sometimes don't get what you pay for in "fine" distilled spirits.   

[Big Dave2]

  On 12/30/2016 at 9:24 PM, delcecchi said:

 

Unfortunately you sometimes don't get what you pay for in "fine" distilled spirits.   

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Are you arguing that cheaper bourbon is better bourbon?

[fivebucks]

Johnnies are blends and I will drink Red when mixing with water and want to have a few cocktails playing cards or sitting around the fire.  The single malt sipping scotch I buy the most is MacAllan 12.  Might have to try some of that Laphroaig as I like a smokey scotch now and then.

[delcecchi]

  On 12/30/2016 at 9:29 PM, Big Dave2 said:

 

Are you arguing that cheaper bourbon is better bourbon?

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Not at all.  I am arguing that more expensive bourbon is sometimes no better than cheaper bourbon.  After all, all it really takes to make expensive whiskey is a good story, a fancy label, and a high price.  

 

Fine whiskey is expensive. Expensive whiskey is sometimes not fine. 

[PurpleFloyd]

I would like to interrupt this regularly scheduled discussion of sub standard spirits to show you ladies what a real mans drink looks like.

 

Carry on.

 

Edited December 31, 2016 by PurpleFloyd

[Wanderer]

  On 12/30/2016 at 11:09 PM, delcecchi said:

 

 

Fine whiskey is expensive. Expensive whiskey is sometimes not fine. 

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There is a point to be made there, but I'd also say the way one drinks finer whiskey matters too.  One example: sip the right amount.  It's sipping, not swallowing.

 

Second example: use the right GLASS.  Don't try your buddy's garage bottle of Knob Creek out of the cups on the left.  Those are for the bottle on the right. 

 

  On 12/30/2016 at 2:14 AM, delcecchi said:

Are they guaranteed contiguous?

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I'll get my land.

 

[Big Dave2]

  On 12/30/2016 at 11:09 PM, delcecchi said:

Not at all.  I am arguing that more expensive bourbon is sometimes no better than cheaper bourbon.  After all, all it really takes to make expensive whiskey is a good story, a fancy label, and a high price.  

 

Fine whiskey is expensive. Expensive whiskey is sometimes not fine. 

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That same statement can be said about anything and is basically irrelevant to the context of this discussion. For the most part paying a little bit more for better bourbon is going to yield better bourbon but of course tastes vary.

  On 12/31/2016 at 2:44 AM, Wanderer said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think that for the money, New Amsterdam is a decent Vodka for mixing and I also have a bottle in the cabinet right now.

[Big Dave2]

My wonderful wife picked me up a bottle of Eagle Rare last night on her way home from work. I had a couple of fingers of that last night and man was it smooth.......and good! It's made by Buffalo Trace but this is much smoother and more complex flavors than regular Buffalo Trace.

 

I'm definitely having some more of it tonight!

 

I think next I want to try a wheated bourbon. Probably Maker's 46 or Weller 12 year.

Edited December 31, 2016 by Big Dave2
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[smalliehunter]

I like the Knob Creek line. And this is my favorite whiskey