Who needs Love

[TR21HP]

Bennett is a tomato can, Wiggins is a unproven player with a mediocre shot.

The only person Love should be traded for even up, from Cleveland, is Kyrie Erving. I realize the Wolves have to get something for Love but trade for a proven NBA player of Love's ability.

[PierBridge]

Tons of variables here with the salary cap.

Its not as simple as Love for Wiggins.

[nofishfisherman]

I realize the Wolves have to get something for Love but trade for a proven NBA player of Love's ability.

There may only be 5-6 players in the league who meet that criteria. Why would a team that has a player of Love's ability give him up in exchange for Love? If they are equal talent then its at best a wash. The likely get better in one area but take a big hit in another. No team is going to make a deal like that because it doesn't make them better.

Only way you get a player equal to Love's ability is to trade for potential and hope the player develops into a Love like talent.

[TR21HP]

Are you willing to trade on potential and risk Saunders proven record of failing to develop talent? What has been the wolves history of developing young talent? The only times the Wolves have had any success is when they have traded or signed free agents that are proven NBA players. Cassel and Spreewell are two that ring a bell. A good trade is when both teams benefit,

The Wolves, obviously need a point guard and outside talent and James wants Love. I think it benefits both teams and with James who needs a point guard?

He had none of quality the last 4 years and they did well. Just a thought.

salaries probably match up as well.

[nofishfisherman]

Right now there are two apparent options out there.

1. Kevin Love for potential top end talent in Wiggins and Bennett and possible 1st round pick.

2. Kevin Love for various combinations of good but not great players from Golden State. (Klay Thompson appears to be off the table).

Between those two I'll take the potential of Wiggins and Bennett. They may not live up to the potential be at least there is a chance. We already know what GS is offering and none are going to be a Kevin Love type talent and while they are nice pieces they are no where near enough to compete for the title. In my mind taking the GS deal is simply saying "we are happy to just make the playoffs" because thats about all they could even hope for with those players.

If the Cavs are willing to throw in Irving instead of Wiggins of course I'd take that deal but its not going to happen. Just for the record I'd also take Kevin Durant for Love but that's also not going to happen.

[Getanet]

The Wolves don't have the kind of leverage where they can demand proven talent for Love. We get something for him now or nothing for him after this next season, and every other GM in the league knows it. Love for Kyrie isn't happening. James wants to play with proven talent, I doubt he would approve a Love for Kyrie swap - and anything Cleveland does will need his sign-off on.

Like Nofish said, best we can hope for is to land Wiggins and that he becomes a player of comparable standing with Love in a few years. Or I guess a deal with Golden State and that Klay continues to grow into an All Star.

[Scott K]

Little birdies are saying , a trade should happen today or tomorrow with the Cavs.

[TR21HP]

Love for Maya Moore, a lot better shot than Wiggins and she plays defense!

[hnd]

its not about trading proven for unproven. its about getting something now or nothing later.

if you get 1 player out of the deal, you are ahead 2 years down the road.

[Scott K]

Wiggins is many times better defensive player then Love ever has been, or will be.

[Scott K]

Quote:

In their pursuit of Kevin Love, the Bulls have reportedly offered the Wolves a package of Taj Gibson, Doug McDermott and Nikola Mirotic.

It's a legitimate offer and according to SheridanHoops.com, the Wolves may actually prefer it to the Cavaliers' theoretical offer of Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett and a future first-round pick. Neither team could include rookies for almost a month, as they can't be traded until 30 days after signing their rookie deals, but the teams could 'unofficially' agree to a deal in the meantime.

[dfv87]

I want the Wiggins BEnnit 1st rounder deal over any others right now, if we are rebuilding take 2 #1 overalls and another 1st rounder plus the lottery picks we will earn from this losing season for next year also and you have a start. yes we wait another 2 years...

[nofishfisherman]

Agreed. With the other deals we'll become nothing more than an average team, maybe a 8 seed playoff team at best. With the Cavs deal we'll take a step back for sure and maybe we never amount to anything but there is at least the chance that these young guys develop and realizing the potential they currently have. Then we maybe we might have something worth watching.

[Scott K]

I dont know, it wouldnt be hard to win 30 games, even with some rookies. Not to mention first picked rookies. Love was a ball stopper on one end of the floor, and a defensive liability on the other end. Without Love, they will be forced to play team ball, rather then pass the ball to Love.

[EBass]

I like the Clevland pics better as well. And Love wants to get his ring with James.

Let's guess what will play out though. Love will start the season here. Flip hoping we can make a run and keep him here. We won't and then he walks

[Scott K]

Cleveland signed Wiggins, so now it will have to wait 30 days.

[fishersofmen]

Flip is taking his time, already a verbal agreement in place they just wanted the numbers to be there.

[hnd]

bulls i think are only in it to push the price the cavs have to pay for love up.

[Getanet]

That's fine with me. The more pressure (real or fake) that Cleveland feels to make a deal the better. Teams such as Chicago would be smart to do whatever they can to hurt their opponents, and that only benefits us.

Apparently the Knicks made an offer to us last week, but it was such as lame attempt I'm not even sure why they bothered. I can't even name one player in the deal.

[dfv87]

Scott K... I have to disagree with you on KLove... ball stopper? He is the guy you want to touch the ball for the wolves the Offense ran through him. The NBA is a star driven league, no stars = not a good team... Defensive liability, while not a stellar defender he does a good enough job certainly not a def specialist but not the weak defender he started out as. Stars get away with more on the def end anyway... and lets not forget he rebounds better than most/almost all the players in the NBA. He is the best player we have and has hit multiple big shots late in games. While I want Wiggins I would rather have him stay but since that is not an option... get the best deal. IMO Wiggins and the rest from CLE.

[Scott K]

Scott K... I have to disagree with you on KLove... ball stopper? He is the guy you want to touch the ball for the wolves the Offense ran through him. The NBA is a star driven league, no stars = not a good team... Defensive liability, while not a stellar defender he does a good enough job certainly not a def specialist but not the weak defender he started out as. Stars get away with more on the def end anyway... and lets not forget he rebounds better than most/almost all the players in the NBA. He is the best player we have and has hit multiple big shots late in games. While I want Wiggins I would rather have him stay but since that is not an option... get the best deal. IMO Wiggins and the rest from CLE.

I agree with all of that. He was our go to guy, plays went through him. But that in itself is the definition of ball stopper. If the plays now get distributed through 3 people, rather then one, we open up the offense a little more.

[Scott K]

"Kevin Love joining the Cavaliers appears to be imminent, according to ESPN.

We still don't know exactly what the Cavs will give to acquire Love, but the fact that sources are calling a trade a "when, not if" situation points to Love joining the Cavs at some point. Cleveland appears to be the only team the Wolves are talking to about a Love trade, and chances are that Andrew Wiggins is involved, along with Anthony Bennett. But regardless of what names are involved in a potential trade, it does sound like the Cavs will have Kyrie Irving, LeBron James and Kevin Love on the court together at some point this season. If a deal does go down, it's not likely to happen officially until 30 days have passed from the day Wiggins was signed by the Cavs (July 24)."

[Scott K]

"Anthony Bennett was pulled from a Pro-Am tournament in Canada on Tuesday, but is not injured.

His agent reportedly made the move, which should sufficiently throw the 'Kevin Love to Cavs' rumors in full gear. It makes sense, as Bennett's name has been included in potential deals for the Cavs to get Love since day one, although it's clearly speculation that something is in the works. Having said that, it's hard to think of another reason Bennett's agent would make such a move, so let the speculation begin."

[ozzie]

The ball doesn't stop with him but who was he going to pass it to anyways? Pass to Rubio to shoot? By the way Love avg 4.4 assists a game last year...not too bad for a 26pts 12reb player!

[Sandmannd]

Scott K... I have to disagree with you on KLove... ball stopper? He is the guy you want to touch the ball for the wolves the Offense ran through him. The NBA is a star driven league, no stars = not a good team... Defensive liability, while not a stellar defender he does a good enough job certainly not a def specialist but not the weak defender he started out as. Stars get away with more on the def end anyway... and lets not forget he rebounds better than most/almost all the players in the NBA. He is the best player we have and has hit multiple big shots late in games. While I want Wiggins I would rather have him stay but since that is not an option... get the best deal. IMO Wiggins and the rest from CLE.

I agree with all of this. He's a great all around player. Too bad he's kind of a D bag. I would have liked to see him stay.