See ya Later Jared Allen

[BuckSutherland]

Sounds like its down to Seattle and Dallas. I am sure he is gonna want to get as much as those foolish contracts that D Ware and J Peppers signed.

Too bad he didnt end up in Green Bay. BTW, the Peppers signing by GB was horrible.

[LMITOUT]

BTW, the Peppers signing by GB was horrible.

For 2014, Peppers will receive $8.5 million total. Based on the manner in which guys like Ross Tucker and Shaun King have assessed for Pro Football Talk on NBCSN the tape of Peppers’ recent performances, that’s probably a pretty good deal.

[BuckSutherland]

Quote:

For Cowboys fans hoping that good things happen in threes, the third good thing apparently won’t be the signing of defensive end Jared Allen.

According to Mike Garafolo of FOX Sports, Allen in “unlikely” to sign with the Cowboys after Tuesday’s visit.

Allen also has visited the Seahawks, and other visits are possible.

The six-year Vikings and, before that, four-year Chief is looking for a “fair” contract and a “chance to win.” It’s possible the the range in which the Cowboys would pay didn’t sufficiently exceed Seattle’s range to justify the necessarily smaller chance of winning that exists in Dallas.

[zepman]

Allen can't sign in Dallas because they just closed the deal with Melton. A Pro-Bowl DT that is many years younger than Allen.

Dallas is cash-strapped right now and it's surprising they had enough cap space to close the Melton deal.

[ozzie]

Jared Allen will be playing for the Seattle Seahawks next season it appears

[Scott K]

That is where all the reject Vikings go to play and win.

[greebs]

This would be so ideal for him. With the overall strength of that D he can pin his ears back and speed rush and put all kinds of pressure on opposing qb. How that speed rush is exposed against the run like it was with the Vikes D can be negated by the others on that Hawk defense.

[FISHINGURU]

Yeah, that's where linebackers come in handy but ours were never anywhere to be found. Oh yeah that's right they were always 20 yards deep playing Cover 2 Zone.

[Scott K]

Allen signs with the Bears for 4 years 32million.

[solbes]

I wish him the best for 14 games a year. Time for Kalil to step it up. And All Day should have a good hole to run through now.

[ozzie]

wow how things change...I see he went for the money as they signed him for 15 mil guarenteed. Good for him but what were the Bears thinking going from Peppers to Allen?

[pikestabber]

If your argument is that trading in one aging DE for another is not the smartest move ever, I can agree. But if it's really a comment about Allen being inferior to Peppers, I adamantly disagree. Allen is three years younger and has had 10 more career sacks in two fewer seasons and plays hard every down he's on the field. They are paying him less than what they would have had to pay Peppers, too. In all measurable phases of the game, Allen's numbers and productivity have always been better than Peppers.

I wish he would have landed anywhere but in the NFC North.

[fishersofmen]

Should have around 5 sacks in the 2 games against the Vikes.

[SkunkedAgain]

Allen is inferior to Peppers. Yes he had more sacks but Peppers was/is better against the run. In the end though as you pointed out, they are both aging defensive ends. What I think is hilarious is the contract that he got.

Allen: 4yrs $32 million with $15.5 fully guaranteed. Contract can be voided to 3yrs for $24 million

Peppers: 3yrs $30 million with $7.5 guaranteed

The Packers back-ended the Peppers contract but in reality can cut Peppers sooner and for less of a cap hit because there is much less guaranteed money. The Bears just locked up Allen and mistake-prone Cutler for longer term deals that will hurt their team if they don't pan out.

[ozzie]

I personally like Jared Allen but I don't think he is better than Julius Peppers!!! They are both good and not getting younger but Peppers has a more all around game than Allen. I would rather get Peppers for the deal he signed then Allen at the deal he signed...that is my point.

[pikestabber]

I'm just playing devil's advocate perhaps, but what argument (facts, numbers) support the idea the Peppers > Allen? Someone said he's better against the run, yet in two full seasons more than Allen he only has 6 more tackles (448 to 442) and Allen has more tackle assists (113/108). Allen has 4 safeties to Pepper's 0, similar passes defensed/deflected #s, and neither of them miss games, so that is a wash. I'm not saying either are at an elite level anymore, but in their primes Allen's numbers are considerably better than JPs and when it's all said and done, Allen will surpass him in every meaningful DE stat that he doesn't already eclipse him in. If we don't use stats as our metric, what are we measuring? I'm not picking a fight...I can be swayed with reason. What numbers support the Pepper's argument? In recent years, all I see is a swifter decline than Allen has had, yet Peppers is getting paid more with his new contract! GB is going regret that move...for that matter, the Bears likely will, too. Neither is worth the contracts they just got.

[ozzie]

Peppers is not guarenteed to make more then Allen...I am basing my opinion on watching Peppers over he years and watching Allen. Stats are very similar but to have watched both play over the years I would take Peppers over Allen. Maybe it is a fasination thing that we had Allen and know who he is...

[mrklean]

Who is buck going to complain about now since he is finally gone?

[PierBridge]

No way Peppers over Allen.

thats all...

[BuckSutherland]

Who is buck going to complain about now since he is finally gone?

Shouldnt be too hard since we dont really have a QB. Greenway too maybe, or Sullivan and Loadholt in pass defense.

[BuckSutherland]

wow how things change...I see he went for the money as they signed him for 15 mil guarenteed. Good for him but what were the Bears thinking going from Peppers to Allen?

Of course he went for the money. That's all its about for him. I bet he is wishing the Cowboys would have held onto Demarcus Ware for another day or two. He could have tried for a one or two year deal with the Hawks and got his numbers up and tried for a title, but instead he goes to the useless Bears for the money and no shot at a title.

His contract just goes to show what the rest of the league thinks of him, and that we should have cut him when all was lost at the beginning of the season, or at least once it all completely cratered last year and saved the money.

[ozzie]

His contract shows that people still think he has good value with some ability to produce for the next 2 years since they guarenteed him $15 million...

[pikestabber]

Maybe it is a fasination thing that we had Allen and know who he is...

That could very well be. I definitely tip my hat to the players in purple just out of loyalty, I suppose. I might be making a similar argument for Peppers if he was a Vike instead. Now, however, both Peppers and Allen are NFC foes and I have to hate both of them... How about that Everson Griffen...beast!

[schmitty3]

Can't wait for AP to run through the huge gaping holes he leaves when he takes his wide rushes at the qb every play. Glad he's gone.

[zepman]

The wide gaping holes were there because our linebackers were worthless pieces of &*(%^.

Allen still has two good years of double digit sacks left in him and he was paid very good for a 32 year old NFL player.