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Hit the road, Leslie!


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Channel 9 is reporting that he has been let go and a news conference will be held at 9 am. Little Ricky ought to be tossed also. Frazier let the cat out of the bag last night in his post game conference that the QB starter was a committee decision, the GM and owners weighed in on who would be starting each week. So now you know why Ponder was 'their best chance to win' week after week. All this is making me believe Freeman will be the starter next year. Frazier never wanted him, Spielman did... New coach, Spielman stating freeman is their guy... Mold him. Otherwise I cannot begin to understand why they've held onto him and paid him... Remember the GM does more than draft... I think letting Winfield walk hurt them, Allan and Williamsq walking will hurt them, ignoring the LB position has hurt them...

Good luck!

Ken

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I can only speculate, but I bet the slime ball Spielman through Frazier under the bus in an act of self preservation... not that I would have kept the coaching staff if I was an owner, but the GM would be walking too.

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I can only speculate, but I bet the slime ball Spielman through Frazier under the bus in an act of self preservation... not that I would have kept the coaching staff if I was an owner, but the GM would be walking too.

Yeah like Spielman had to throw him under the bus, he threw himself under the bus all season.

I don't see how getting rid of a guy that has drafted half a dozen or so of the best players on your team in the past 2 yrs since he has been GM is a good idea.

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I am glad to see Leslie go, however do not put all the blame of his performance on him. The Viking organization's recent history of losing quality coaches created the Leslie Frasier tenure. They watched Tony Dungy, Brian Billick and Mike Tomlin leave to become successful head coaches. I guess they picked the wrong guy to keep.

I hope they do not insert another inexperienced coach at this point with the team in total disaray. Too much for a young coach to overcome. I am actually warming up to the Ken Whisenhunt idea. Not calling him the next Tony Dungy, but both of them took over historically bad organizations (Tampa and Arizona) with their first HC job and turned them around, only to be fired. Whisenhunts demise was Kurt Warner retiring, only to be handed Matt Leinart to deal with. He is having some good sucess in San Diego this year as OC. Phillip Rivers is having one of his best years as a pro. With some of the offensive weapons on the Vikings (Peterson, Patterson, Rudolph), having an offensive minded coach might be good since we will most likely have a new coordinator.

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It's because he has little peas. He loved Christian, that's his guy. I wish Frazier wasn't such a push over because if he would of played his guy Christian we'd have a top 3 pick right now.

Ya Ok... Ponder drafted by Spielman, McNabb picked up by Spielman, Freeman picked up by Spielman, Both McNabb and Freeman were not wanted by Frazier. I'm not so sure Ponder was ever Frazier's guy either. That was the touted 1st round draft pick given to him. He made his first statements yesterday basically saying the QB situation was not solely in his hands. I believe that. Spielman drafted 6 of the best players 0n your team... I think any GM can lay claim to that. How is your secondary doing? How is the LB corp doing? How is the QB position doing since he's been here? So what! he got Patterson right... maybe Rhodes if he can stay healthy... Kalil has not been spectacular this year. Rudolph has been very good. Harrison Smith has ben very good. I wouldn't crown him a brain whiz or a top GM by any stretch.

I believe he was telling Frazier who was playing at QB each week. Just like he was telling Freeman what to say at his intro press conference. I think Spielman has Wilf's ear and made sure to position all the problems on Frazier. Spielman is pointing out to all the inconsistancies during the season... yet most of the inconstancies were caused by the talent Spielman provided to the team.

I doubt if any coach could've made a silk purse out of the pig's ear that is the MN Vikings. Again, not saying Frazier should not have been released, I just think Spielman needs to follow right behind him...

Good Luck!

Ken

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Ya Ok... Ponder drafted by Spielman, McNabb picked up by Spielman, Freeman picked up by Spielman, Both McNabb and Freeman were not wanted by Frazier. I'm not so sure Ponder was ever Frazier's guy either. That was the touted 1st round draft pick given to him. He made his first statements yesterday basically saying the QB situation was not solely in his hands. I believe that. Spielman drafted 6 of the best players in the NFL? Whom are these BEST players? How is the secondary doing? How is the LB corp doing? How is the QB position doing since he's been here? So what! he got Patterson right... probably Rhodes if he can stay healthy... Kalil has not been spectacular this year. Rudolph has been very good. Harrison Smith has ben very good. I wouldn't crown him a brain whiz or a top GM by any stretch.

I believe he was telling Frazier who was playing at QB each week. Just like he was telling Freeman what to say at his intro press conference. I think Spielman has Wilf's ear and made sure to position all the problems on Frazier. Spielman is pointing out to all the inconsistancies during the season... yet most of the inconstancies were caused by the talent Spielman provided to the team.

I doubt if any coach could've made a silk purse out of the pig's ear that is the MN Vikings. Again, not saying Frazier should not have been released, I just think Spielman needs to follow right behind him...

Good Luck!

Ken

Sorry Ken but Spielman has only been the GM for 2 years. By all the blame you put on him you must think he's the most powerful man in the world, he can tell the owners what to do, he can tell the players what to do and what to say, he can tell the coaches what to do, man must be nice.

I like how you take your opinion and base it as fact, like you know who wanted who and who told who to do what during the season. Just because it wasn't solely in Fraziers hands he makes the final decision being head coach, not like he came out and said Spielman made him do it lol.

I'd feel bad for any head coach that would have to take orders from a GM, a GM puts the players on the team, the coaches decide the rest.

Again, Spielman has only been GM for 2 years. So take the past 2 drafts he's been in complete control of for examples, not players we drafted and brought in as free agents from 3-4 yrs ago.

BTW I said 6 or so best players on THE TEAM not in the NFL. Name the best players on the team with the brightest future and you'll see they have came in the past 2 drafts.

Aren't you a Packer fan anyway? Thinking they have the best drafts and coaching but in reality it's all Rodgers? I bet Spielman can tell Rodgers what to do though. LMMFAO

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Both Broncos coordinators on our "short list." They can both thank Peyton Manning when they get the big pay day.

Hip Hip does Peyton come with? I like how coordinators get jobs because they have one of the best QB's in the league. Peyton is his own coach, even Musgrave would look like a genius offensive coordinator with Peyton.

We might as well offer the job to Favre, that would ruffle alot of feathers.

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I actually ammended my post prior to you posting. I miss read team and had NFL in my head. To that I apologize. But that even makes it more big whooppee... a GM should be able to say the 6 best players on a team are his. McNabb was Spielman, freeman was Spielman, Ponder was Spielman... how are those working out?

Not my opinion. Frazier came out and said the QB situation was done by Committee... Even that alone says he did not have complete control of who would or would not play. Word from inside was he did not want to play Freeman in the Giants game. Hence the reason why Freeman was given what? 50 pass plays? Word was, he didnt think he was ready, but said if you want to see Freeman play, here you go. We'll pass all day long. Not my opinions but what I hear/read reports. Sure some are conjecture, but if half of it is correct, Spielman does NOT turn the reigns over to the coach.

You are correct, I am a Packer fan. They have their own mess. I myself would hold McCarthy and Ted's feet to the fire this offseason. They have not done enough to keep balance with talent on both sides of the ball. But I have high expectations...

My belief is if you want to start a new regime, get rid of all the staff that had a hand in the 5 win season. I think now would be a great time to get rid of Spielman and elevate Studwell to GM. As head of scouting, he has his pulse on the upcoming draft and can step in and perform admirably.

Good Luck!

Ken

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Buck...

I think you would be the only person in MN with a bigger ego than Spielman! laugh LOL... maybe you should be proactive and give ziggy a call... he should be looking for ways to save some money!

Good Luck!

Ken

He wont save any money hiring me. I am going to be expensive. Jerry Jones may need me yet to help turn things around down there. Still trying to convince him to fire Garrett.

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