bobbymalone Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I agree that JoePa should have done more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott M Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I hope this scandal doesn't start a witch hunt in sports. There are charges against a Syracuse Assistant Basketball coach. This thing could turn into the 1980's Jordan, Minnesota child sex abuse scandal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott M Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 8-9 months later and it appears Bernie Fine and Jerry Sandusky were peas in a pod.I waited for more information on Paterno, and things went from bad to worse with today's PSU internal report release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Penn St. undecided about what to do with joepa statue. They just don't get it. Hope NCAA gives them "death penalty". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wettschreck Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Honestly I don't know what to think besides this whole thing makes me want to go puke. Rinse well, then go puke again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrklean Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 i was thinking the death penalty should be handed out but then i look at the fact the players had nothing to do with it, when SMU got the death penalty the players were taking cash and other stuff. I think there gonna come down hard on the school and the program but dont see the death penalty, plus if they did that they might as well shut the school down, there already gonna pay out millions in lawsuits but if they shut down there #1 money maker they might as well close up shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugonian1 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I would put a fork in the program.Goodness, everyone from the top down had knowlege of this and did nothing.Even the janitor.They should take the statue, melt it down, and put it back.That would be a reminder to all of the epic failure the entire organization harbored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbymalone Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 plus if they did that they might as well shut the school down, there already gonna pay out millions in lawsuits but if they shut down there #1 money maker they might as well close up shop there number one money maker is probably tax dollars, tuition, and endowment investments. The athletic dept at Penn state profited 14 million in 2009, that's after paying the salaries of child molestors and their enablers, putting helmets and jerseys on the kids, and supported the athletic programs that do not profit. 14 million is jack squat with a 4 billion dollar operating budget at Penn state.I know if I was a student there, wouldn't be too happy about tuition dollars paying the settlements for the open secret child molestor on campus. They can sell football tickets for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abndoc Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 kill the program, grant the players the right to transfer and play the same year, no penalty against them. What I still can't figure out is how the janitor and intern(assistant coach) or whatever he is, can walk into a locker room, see what is going on and walk away. I would probably be locked up if I experienced that situation..he wouldn't of hurt another kid thats for sure!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverFish Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Statue has been removed as of this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrklean Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 $60 million fine 4 year bowl ban wine forfeited since 98 I believe i read 80 scholarships gone to they were not messing around at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 It was harder then I thought they would get. But they need to set examples, and this is one they shouldnt mess around with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I thought it was ridiculous. What right does the NCAA have messing around in a criminal case? Why punish the student-athletes from those years or the upcoming years? They did nothing wrong. Was there any sort of competitive advantage gained on the field of play over those 13 years due to Sandusky's actions? If not, then stay out of an administrative issue that the college and law enforcement are handling. The NCAA should have never said a peep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Personally I was hoping for the DEATH Penalty for the football program. I figured it would be a slap on the wrist and it was.I think the fact that Paterno, Penn st U higher ups and other Football personal knew that pedophile was molesting boys on campus and decided not to do anything was absurd if not criminal to say the least. All to protect some Jock football program, it's sickening.I hope that 60 million which is chump change has at least a another ZERO attached to it when these victims of child RAPE SUE the snot out of Penn State.As expected Penn State excepts these sanctions instantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I think the football penalties were unnecessary also, they didn't cheat in football after all. Yes it was a horrible crime, yes the $60 million fine is appropriate. I'm even ok with the probation and bowl ban. But they shouldn't take away any scholarships...what does that do? Just punish the people that were directly involved in the ordeal, not the student athletes! If sandusky was a chemistry professor, would they take away an x amount of science scholarships? Ban the school from science competitions? I highly doubt it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I really believe more heads should roll than just Joe's. He did report it at least once and his superiors decided to do nothing.Joe will take the fall for all that knew and decided to do nothing at all. Many should lose thier jobs over this but they got Joe so let the rest go.What a joke. Anything for a winning sports peogram I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paceman Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 The football program and Joe-Pa ran the school. The amount of money they brought into the university is staggering. Yes the higher ups new about it and yes they did nothing to stop it. I feel the fine is warranted. This is a clear cut message that sports programs are not above the law, wether it be basketball, football.... They chose to ignore the fact that boys were being molested right in front of them in thier sports complex and did nothing to stop it. Just to keep the cash flowing in. The NCAA and Big Ten are in a tough position. They can not go back in time and erase what has happened. They also can not ignore what PSU has been doing for many years. And yes PSU will be paying out many millions to the victoms families. This is far from over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblueM Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I thought it was ridiculous. What right does the NCAA have messing around in a criminal case? Why punish the student-athletes from those years or the upcoming years? They did nothing wrong. Was there any sort of competitive advantage gained on the field of play over those 13 years due to Sandusky's actions? If not, then stay out of an administrative issue that the college and law enforcement are handling. The NCAA should have never said a peep. +1I think the NCAA shoulda docked em a single bowl appearance and a handful of scholarships for "loss of institutional control" (for which I think there is a strong argument) but stayed out of what is largely a criminal matter. I think the NCAA is making a power play and failing to separate lawbreaking from NCAA rulebreaking. It's definitely the worst scandal in college football history, but as far as actual NCAA rulebreaking, it doesn't touch SMU or half a dozen other instances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antero Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I think the NCAA shoulda docked em a single bowl appearance and a handful of scholarships for "loss of institutional control" (for which I think there is a strong argument) but stayed out of what is largely a criminal matter.If you think about it PSU had "institutional control", the pres, ad, coaches and others all fell in line. The institution controlled this situation for perhaps over 20 yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottomdweller Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 All I know is if one of those victims had been one of my kids,Everyone that knew of what was going on better run. Id hunt em all down like pathetic losers they really are. They are all guilty of this crime for covering it up.A bullet would be much cheaper for each and everyone of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabasaurus Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I thought it was ridiculous. What right does the NCAA have messing around in a criminal case? Why punish the student-athletes from those years or the upcoming years? They did nothing wrong. Was there any sort of competitive advantage gained on the field of play over those 13 years due to Sandusky's actions? If not, then stay out of an administrative issue that the college and law enforcement are handling. The NCAA should have never said a peep. I dunno. It sounds like this was swept under the rug in order to maintain a top tier football program, and the economy of a small town (when it comes down to it, the GDP of college town IS from penn state football).This action sends a message I never thought would actually need to be sent (common sense reasons): Don't cover up the actions of a pedophile within your ranks to preserve the reputation and sanctity of your institution.I mean, they lied to protect a pedophile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I mean, they lied to protect a pedophile. But, that doesn't mean the NCAA should get involved. I just don't see how the NCAA has any jurisdiction on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abndoc Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 LMIT, sometimes I think you just say things to bother people. This program and college allowed little boys to have an old man put his penis in their butt!!! All these kids can transfer without any penalty. The problem with this situation is nobody got involved. Get everyone involved. take some responsibility!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 No, I'm not saying what I said to rile people up. If you step back and look at the situation without emotion clouding your vision, there really is no reason the NCAA had to get involved. The NCAA doesn't have jurisdiction over schools, contrary to what some people apparently believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabasaurus Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 But, that doesn't mean the NCAA should get involved. I just don't see how the NCAA has any jurisdiction on the matter. If we were just talking about the pedophile, I agree.But since more than just the pedophile were involved in this matter, to some degree, it becomes an institutional issue. That's where I see it differently. If it was Sandusky alone involved with this at an institutional level, I'd see no reason for the NCAA to take action.The bottom line, though, is that high ranking officials at the institution concealed information in order to protect the Penn State name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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