Next years QB?

[soldoncass]

I don't see a third rounder in this years future....that was a HUGE BLUNDER, that will cost us for a few years. Frazier is looking for talent all over (cfl,ufl), so he MAY find enough talent to shorten the drought a couple years. The coaches will tell the story.....some teams are competetive year after year, even with a young team.....that's coaching. I have a qb I'd like to see them draft, in the first....but if say a sure fire star, stud guy was to drop to the 12 spot in another position(like cb,safety,lb), I'd take them instead of a questionmark qb.

If the Vikes had the chance to get V.Young cheap or draft Cam newton, then move Webb to wr, that would give defenses a lot to defend/think about. GOTTA beef up the OL for sure, either in personnel or coaching aspect. Vikes have the size necesary, just don't seem to work together good enough.

[FISHINGURU]

Getting the 3rd rounder back wouldn't be a problem if we trade our pick and move later into the 1st.

[soldoncass]

I guess I can't envision any team being that desperate to move up a few spots in the first, by giving up their first AND a third (maybe a 6or7th)rounder. Chili isn't around, so can't get it from him....

[soldoncass]

Just for the record....if Mallet is there at #12 I'd take him, unless cb Peterson is there, then I'd jump outta my skin to get him. I see him as a rare gamechanger. If we can find some team to give us a draftpick(any) for Jackson we do it....NOW.

[thatoneguy]

There is a zero percent chance that either of the top two CB is still on the board at #12 unless one of them gets arrested between now and the draft.

I'd be OK with taking Mallett at 12, but I'd rather see them take an OT at 12, then take a QB with their second or third pick. Or trade down in the first round to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick, then take Mallett later in the 1st.

[nonteepical]

if i was the GM i would put Adrian up on the block and see what kind of offers arrise. I like Adrian but the Vikings won't get to the promise land on his back, you need a top QB first and foremost(along with a good O-line), the packers just proved that. Running back along with linebacker are the easiest positions to fill with solid players, not superstars, but solid players.

[zepman]

That's true but there isn't team going to give up the kind of qb you are referring to for AP...no way.

The QB we need is going to have to be drafted...and then get lucky with the guy.

[nonteepical]

no i don't think someone will give up their top QB, but they might be dumb enough to give up the farm in draft picks and young players if desperate enough. herschel walker ring a bell?

[soldoncass]

I'd like a Herschal Walker type trade too, but where are you going to find another gm that would do it??? Lynn isn't a gm anymore is he??

[soldoncass]

I think you are right about the 2 cb, but I can HOPE can't I?? I don't think Mallet will be there later in round 1, and definately not round 2, so if the Vikes like him they better jump, if they get the chance. I'm not sure ANY ot are good enough for pick 12 either, so I'd lean toward a skill position. BIG BODIES are picked later rounds many times, as long as they have the "war" personality.

[JBMasterAngler]

Rodgers and the pack winning the super bowl is just another of many reasons Favre needs to come back to the vikes next year! Now even more to prove than ever before!

Mallet will already be drafted by the time the vikes get to pick. Go O-line and draft TCU QB Andy Dalton in the 2nd round. He's got pro talent written all over him!

[gregg52]

JB

thats good humour

but one cant help he'd like to and has those thoughts

but he headed for a wheel chair early enough i think

[koonie]

Mallett will not be taken in the top ten and probably not even in the top twenty.

Peterson will go top 5. Prince may not be the second cb off the board though. Personally I'd rather take J. Smith over Prince.

All the quarterbacks(Mallett, Gabbert, Newton, and Locker) have HUGE question marks about their game. Mallett is a train wreck right now. Rumors of drug issues, huge ego, no mobility, and bad decision making. Gabbert has tons of upside but terrible production this year and awful footwork in the pocket and can't handle pressure at all. Newton is a one read and throw or run quarterback in a gimmick offense. Locker has accuracy issues and clearly regressed this year. All these prospects need to sit for at least two years and be coached up.

Jimmy Smith at number 12. Book it.

[goblueM]

maybe so koonie, maybe so

whatever the vikings do, they can't afford to keep getting washed up old QBs for a stopgap - they gotta draft a QB with some GOOD upside and develop him

[PurpleFloyd]

maybe so koonie, maybe so

whatever the vikings do, they can't afford to keep getting washed up old QBs for a stopgap - they gotta draft a QB with some GOOD upside and develop him

Heck, they have been doing that since the days of Joe Kapp. Why change now considering the success they have had doing things that way?

The one thing to consider about all of this is we don't even know what type of offense we are going to run at this point other than it is apparently going to be run oriented.

I personally hope we turn to an offense similar to what the steelers run that is less complicated and geared toward power more than finesse but one way or the other that decision is going to weigh heavily on who they bring in as a QB. Palmer and McNabb are WCO types while Newton, Webb etc would do better in the offense I would like to run.

Personally if they want to stick with the WCO then maybe they should trade to get Rosencopter back for a year or 2 since he is familiar with our players and with Chilly gone he might actually be an average QB for a short period of time.Plus he should be fairly cheap.

[koonie]

maybe so koonie, maybe so

whatever the vikings do, they can't afford to keep getting washed up old QBs for a stopgap - they gotta draft a QB with some GOOD upside and develop him

I agree completely. However, I'd like to see us wait until next year to draft a qb. At least in the first round. Although I really don't wanna suffer through another season like this one. :-)

[zamboni]

Blaine Gabbert

[MUSKY18]

Vince Young is not a solution to any of the Vikings problems at QB. Although he had a winning record with the Titans, how many times was he benched? Chris Johnson had much more to do with Young having a winning record the past few years than Young did himself. Personally, I would like to see the Vikings stay with Webb, cure the offensive line problems and go from there. I think Webb showed a lot of promise over the last couple games, and if he had a GOOD line in front of him, I think he gives other teams defenses a hard time to plan against our offense. With a coaching staff in place that will actually develop talent, it could be a major step forward next season. Even if they don't go with Webb, the only other QB I think that would be a logical fit would be Kobb. He has the upside, is still young in his career and can grow with our young receivers.

[soldoncass]

I don't get all the fuss about Kolb....what has he ever DONE? I think he would have been on the market, if the Vikes hadn't picked up Bomar from their practice squad...now they will keep him to back-up Vick.

Bomar and Webb give us a couple good young options, so I don't see the Vikes drafting "just anybody"....The qb they really want will have to be there at #12, or they will take a blue-chipper at another position....hoping it is at OL, or safety, or a Jerry Rice clone.

Since Webb had a taste of qb last year, they have to give him a chance....that's why Frasier said something like "he'll stay at qb, for now". Now if we can draft, or trade for, a top qb type Webb is too talented to sit on the bench. He has to be opn the field to make the plays he is capable of .

[soldoncass]

The other thing is....we have to have Harvin, and Rice on the field every game, or some talented back-ups....ANY qb has to have someone to THROW TO. That is the BOTTOM LINE.

[soldoncass]

I looked at Vikings transactions list.....On Jan. 13 it shows they signed Ryan Perrilloux. Anyone know anything about that???

[zepman]

They brought him in last year as a free-agent too. He's a guy just like Bomar...lot's of talent but had his issues in college.

Transfered from LSU to Jacksonville St.

Bomar was the starter before Sam Bradford at Oklahoma...he transferred to Sam Houston State (after accepting some $$$ from a car dealer) if my memory is correct.

[soldoncass]

I was excited when the Vikes gave him a tryout last year, but nothing came of it. Looks like Perrilloux played for the UFL last(as a back-up to Mccown?). Yesterday I saw the NY Giants signed him to a "futures contract", but he is also on the Vikings transactions list, as a signing......I'm confused. I'm hoping someone on here knows how some of that works.................

[soldoncass]

I've learned a few things about the "futures" signings....Regular contracts go til March, but practice squad players contracts are done at the end of the season. The futures contract kind of keeps the players, you want, around til the next year, as well as gives them some security. Since "practice squad" players CAN be signed by another team to a regular contract,I wonder if "futures contract" players can be "stolen" off another teams roster also? I know we lost Colt Anderson from our practice squad, and we got a couple of players from other teams the same way. Reminds me of a chess match....always changing.

[SkunkedAgain]

Here is a quote from Rick Spielman in today's paper:

Quote:

Sure, it's great if you have the luxury of what Green Bay did and that's outstanding. They won a Super Bowl by having a Favre and bringing in [Aaron] Rodgers. Maybe Rodgers wasn't in Year One what he was when he took over as a starter. I think every team would like to have that luxury to do that, but in today's day and age, I don't know if you have that luxury.

...and that's why the Vikings will continue to fail. What does "today's day and age" mean? Green Bay did it only five years ago. Is Spielman so ignorant to assert that the game has massively changed in that short period of time? No, it means that he is unwilling to build a team slowly. He doesn't have the steel to take some long-term growth criticism like Ted Thompson did.