PierBridge Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 It's doubtful Tony Dungy could have take over the mess Brewster did and we would be much more than a game or 2 better. Recruit that...Go Gophs! .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Brewster simply made the mistake of not sticking with one "system". He now wants to be a power running team but has a roster full of unhappy kids who came here to play the spread offense. It's a lose/lose situation and they're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. There is no reason the Gophers can't play better defense...that was simply bad coaching against the Coyotes. Outside containment...screen recognition...c'mon...this is first week of practice stuff that they are failing at time after time. Bad coaching on the defensive side of the ball!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Actually there defense has been pretty good relatively speaking. I want to say that was the 1st game in quite a while that the defense gave up more than 10 points in the 2nd half of a game. Trust me I understand the frustration... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerBen Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 There is no reason the Gophers can't play better defense...that was simply bad coaching against the Coyotes. Outside containment...screen recognition...c'mon...this is first week of practice stuff that they are failing at time after time. Bad coaching on the defensive side of the ball!! The reason the Gophers can't play defense is named Kevin Cosgrove. Ask a Husker fan. Ask a Badger fan. Ask the USC offense, who could "drive buses though those holes." Get rid of him, and Brewster might have a chance. But probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1310 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 It's doubtful Tony Dungy could have take over the mess Brewster did and we would be much more than a game or 2 better. Recruit that...Go Gophs! .... Pier.... you are missing the boat a bit on this one. Brewster inherited a MUCH BETTER program than Mason did. Not to mention a much better recruiting tool in TCF. I truly believe Mason took the program as far as he was going to take it and his ability to p*@# off just about everyone he spoke to with his smugness and arrogance only expedited his way out of here. Was getting rid of Mason a mistake?? In my opinion... NO, but replacing him with Brewster has turned out to be a massive one. The laughable part of your statement, in my opinion... is saying Tony Dungy might be a game or two better if he had taken over when Brewster did. Dungy is one of the most respected coaches football has ever seen. He understands how to manage all aspects of leading a football team. I would be willing to bet there are VERY FEW coaches who could have done worse than Brew has so far. This is his 4th year and I was willing to give him a shot. I continually hear "the key guys are young"... well if that is the guess he whiffed on his first 2 recruiting classes. His constant changing of systems has severely inhibited the U's ability to succeed. Like was pointed out in previous posts... he recruited spread guys and now we are a power running team.... I don't expect the U of M to ever be Michigan or Ohio State, but making a run in the Big Ten every 5-10 years like Wisconsin or Iowa do isn't out of the question. If Iowa can get a guy like Ferentz there and keep him, the U of M should be able to find someone. I'll even take a guy who uses the U of M as a stepping stone. Losing to 2 sub division teams is unacceptable, especially when one of them lost 35-7 the week before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I agree Mason was and is a better coach but he left Brewster with absolutely nothing, garbage to be exact at the end so we'll have to agree to disagree a bit here.Again I get everybody that wants Brewster fired but I just don't think its going to happen and it may sound crazy but I think it would hurt and hamper the program versus keeping him around for a season or 2 more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskie Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I usually support coaches, but now Brewster is blaming the media for making more out of the SD debacle than there was to it. Granted, all but Sid are a tad on the negative side, some more some less. The results of that blame game usually is the beginning of the end!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1310 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I agree Mason was and is a better coach but he left Brewster with absolutely nothing, garbage to be exact at the end so we'll have to agree to disagree a bit here.Again I get everybody that wants Brewster fired but I just don't think its going to happen and it may sound crazy but I think it would hurt and hamper the program versus keeping him around for a season or 2 more! I will agree to disagree with you regarding what Brewster was left.... however can you explain how keeping Brewster around for a season or two is going to help us??? He's had 4 years.... I think most Gopher fans are willing to give any coach 4 years to see what they are.... well, we've seen and we don't like!! I know we will probably never get an elite coach, but guys like Kelly at Notre Dame, Meyer at Florida only needed a couple of years to turn programs around.. isn't it worth giving another guy a shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Because when you cave into the whining majority and in the this instance you guys actually have a case unlike for the most part when the whining majority doesn't and you FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE every 2, 3 or 4 years it hurts the program having to start over and with future potential recruits not knowing or having stability in the program. Look on the bright side athletic academic grade point averages are up across the board at the U.... Did I hear Brewster was fired today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave2 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Because when you cave into the whining majority and in the this instance you guys actually have a case unlike for the most part when the whining majority doesn't and you FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE every 2, 3 or 4 years it hurts the program having to start over and with future potential recruits not knowing or having stability in the program. Look on the bright side athletic academic grade point averages are up across the board at the U.... Did I hear Brewster was fired today? Having Brewster there will also start to hurt recruiting efforts. Everyone is well aware that Brewster is on his last leg so even if he would stay for another year(which he won't)it will still hurt recruiting because of the impending uncertainty. If you are good enough to have a choice of a few schools, why would you want to go somewhere where you don't know who the coach will be by the time you graduate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave2 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I know we will probably never get an elite coach, but guys like Kelly at Notre Dame, Meyer at Florida only needed a couple of years to turn programs around.. isn't it worth giving another guy a shot? Look what Nick Saban was able to do in 2 years at Alabama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIvers Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 PierBridge said: "Again I get everybody that wants Brewster fired but I just don't think its going to happen..."Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIvers Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Gary Barnett engineered a pretty impressive and quick turn-around at Northwestern in 1995.Bill Snyder raised a truly awful Kansas State program from the dead.Kirk Ferentz got Iowa back in to the BCS mix very quickly less than ten years ago.Why, exactly, is it impossible for the right coach (Brewster is not) to do the same at Minnesota? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 That list could go on and on and on...Nice post!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 I'm heading off to the USC game in a little bit...I honestly think the gophers are going to keep in close in the 1st quarter, but then the route will be on! Final score will be around 45-10. I think northwestern will have to come into town and blow us out before any serious talk about brewster getting fired comes up with the people in charge of that stuff. But next weeks game against northern illinois is going to be the game that proves where exactly the gophers sit...bad, or REALLY bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antero Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 That's been decided....last week....really bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIvers Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 That's been decided....last week....really bad! Pretty much my belief, even if it hasn't been officially decided yet. Brewster is a dead coach walking.I think he'll finish the season, but be gone very soon after the Iowa game.Of course, Brewster could still save his job with a string of impressive victories...but can anyone point to anything in the last three years and two weeks to suggest that might actually happen? I can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 So much for the 50 point blow out! Gophers cover the spread and play a bit better this week. Oh we had another Fun time at the game again! Go Gophs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Spread was 11.5 wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 The problem with losing to USD: The Gophers weren't ready to play.The problem with losing to USC: The Gophers were ready as they'll ever be.Coach Brew's crew played well Saturday, and still needed a garbage-time touchdown to lose 32-21 to a team that thinks extra points are as expendable as toothpicks, and penalties are a good way to get your name mentioned on TV.The Gophs are 1-2. They've beaten a Middle Tennessee team lacking its star quarterback, lost to a South Dakota team that had just lost by 31 points to Central Florida, and lost to a USC team that had trouble with Hawaii's offense and Virginia's defense.If Middle Tennessee State quarterback Dwight Dasher hadn't been such a thug, the Gophs would be 0-3 right now and facing their worst season since Brewster went 1-11 in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofishfisherman Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Today's game was winable we just were WAY to obvious with our play calling. I was at the game and everyone in my section was yelling out what the play was going to be before they ran it. Way to many 1 wr formations with the ball being run up the middle. USC was so keyed in on it that it was completely ineffective. Now I don't mind trying to stick to a game plan but when you run 10 consecutive plays up the middle and you get minimal gains each time don't you think its time to try something else. It seemed like MN was in 3rd and long all day long because of running for no gain on 1st and 2nd. On 3rd they'd spread the field with 3 WR's and actually get good yardage each time. I don't know why Brewester didn't see that. I was actually sitting up the in USC section and all the USC fans kept asking "why aren't they throwing, don't they know our secondary is the weak spot?" Apparently Brewster didn't get that memo or didn't watch any game film. He just can't adapt to what the defense is giving him, he's going to run the ball out of the same formation and if it doesn't work then he just tries to do it 30 more times hoping for different results. Also what was the point of the time out toward the end of the first half. The offense was standing around on the field with the clock ticking down and after 20 seconds they call a time out. Of course then they come out of the time out and throw the ball and its picked off. Was he trying to conserve time? If so why didn't they call timeout sooner? Was he trying to run out the clock? If so why did he call a time out, and why didn't he run the ball instead? Just total nonsense leading to an interception, thankfully USC didn't score thanks to a gift int from USC. Just more poor coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I thought the Gophers played a good game today.Maybe once Weber leaves this team will have a shot at winning some football games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Spread was 11.5 wasn't it? I think it did go as low as 11.5 some places after starting out the week at around 14.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofishfisherman Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I thought the Gophers played a good game today.Maybe once Weber leaves this team will have a shot at winning some football games... I don't think Weber had a terrible game, he threw into double coverage a couple of times when there was 1 on 1 coverage on the other side of the field, that was about the worst that I saw. His receivers did him no favors in the second half dropping several balls that were right on the money, one of which I believe led to an int. He's certainly not the best I've ever seen but at least yesterday he was not the reason we lost. In general I thought the players played really well, the secondary played much better and they were tough against the run until they started to wear down in the second half. The way the gophers played they could have won the game if they could have gotten away from running the ball out of the same formation all day long. Other things were working but they just kept trying to run inside which clearing wasn't working. IN fact they only averaged 2.2 yards per carry as a team, thats not going to work. Need to try something else when thats all you can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 To me it seemed like USC was completely disinterested in being there. They were playing C level football. I will give the gophers credit, they did play a good game, but it wasn't because of brewster. Watch for northern illinois to come in and take advantage of the hangover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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