Denied access while tracking a wounded Buck

[TNFL]

That sounds the same as catching a "lakeshore owner's fish" from in front of thier dock. People think just because they see these "natural resources" on thier land that the animals belong to them.

[jdog]

all this talk about seeking permission to retreive a wounded animal sounds kinda weird isnt it legal to cross any land to get a wounded deer

[Lunker]

No, I would not deny them. I would go with them because I like to know what's going on within our property.

[BLACKJACK]

Would you deny access to your land to a hunter tracking a wounded deer???

I would let them track their deer because it could be me some day tracking a deer across their land. If I had the time I would also go with them, to make sure its a legitimate blood trail, to ensure they're not using the 'wounded animal' excuse so they can drive the deer off my property.

[Big Dave2]

all this talk about seeking permission to retreive a wounded animal sounds kinda weird isnt it legal to cross any land to get a wounded deer

It may be legal but why not be courtious and neighborly?

[big drift]

Here is the reverse of this situation, when you have a blood trail, the deer is dead within sight of the property line the property is non ag and not posted. Landowner is a psycho freak.

CO was playing politics trying to keep the landowner happy while putting us thru the spanish inquisition. They were just gonna leave the deer there when my partners started raising the wanton waste law. We got the deer.

[norm25]

It may be legal but why not be courteous and neighborly?

By BigDave 2

Courteous? Neighborly?

Have you lost your mind...Why?

:-)

[dpeters]

No it is NOT legal to cross any private land for any wounded game whether armed or not, Posted or not posted, it is Illegal. You may get less of a fine if not posted properly, but still illegal. Call a CO, sheriff, anyone you want, a landowner doesn't have to let any one of you on his property and there is nothing you can do about it. Good or Bad that's the way it is. There are people that refuse to believe this, probably cuz there the ones trespasssing, ask your local CO, this is how it works, ignorance still gets a ticket!

[madbomber10]

Had a situation like this on opening day. My cousin dropped a really nice 8 on our land. It laid there about 3 min. and then jumped up and ran across the property line. We found where he crossed the property line and marked it. We have a good relationship w/the neighbors but we went and told them the situation and such and they said no problem come in from our side and they would meet us over there to help. Well 4 of them came and helped us track it and we found it.

It never hurts to go the extra mile and ask even if you know its ok. Im sure sometime in the future the roles will be reversed.

[lawdog]

No it is NOT legal to cross any private land for any wounded game whether armed or not, Posted or not posted, it is Illegal. You may get less of a fine if not posted properly, but still illegal. Call a CO, sheriff, anyone you want, a landowner doesn't have to let any one of you on his property and there is nothing you can do about it. Good or Bad that's the way it is. There are people that refuse to believe this, probably cuz there the ones trespasssing, ask your local CO, this is how it works, ignorance still gets a ticket!

dpeters, quite a strong post for your first post ever here, especially since you are just plain wrong on the law you so adamently berate others over their ignorance of. The law was quoted earlier from the synopsis in this thread and reads:

• A person on foot may, without permission, enter land that is not posted to retrieve a wounded animal that was lawfully shot, but may not remain on the land after being told to leave.

Now, if it is posted, you can't enter but if it is not posted you can enter until told to leave. If posted or if told to leave, you contact a CO who will try to help you retrieve the game.

[Musky Buck]

If I can first tell if it's the truth and diagnose the situation, no problem. I have had the lie, we wounded one only to have half a dozen guys drive my creek bottom south to their land so I'm skeptical and if they don't ask permission posted or not it will then be posted tight from here on out. The right way to do it is call or make a reasonable effort to contact the landowner so you don't get shot meaning my cousin hopped an unposted fence, jumped his wounded deer, the neighbors were unaware he was creeping around their property and they finished this buck off and here my cousin is 75 yards behind it as bullets screamed on by. Get permission or it might be your funeral.

[dpeters]

Any Ag land doesn't need to be posted, other land does, for ticket purposes, still should have permission to start, contact a CO, doesn't make a difference, landowner still don't have to let you or the CO on.

[Walleye Guy]

There is no distinction between agricultural land or wooded land in the law when it come to entering to retrieve a wounded animal. The only distinction is if it is posted or not. Go out to the DNR HSOforum and read it yourself.

dpeters you are dead wrong on the CO accessing land. I have been part of a situation where the landowner refused access to a hunter with a shot deer that ended on adjoining private land. The hunter then called the CO. The landowner tried to refuse access to the CO. The CO said he didn't need the land owners permission to enter and he would issue a ticket for obstructing justice if the landowner did not get out of his way. Both the hunter and the CO entered the land, the expired deer was tracked and found and removed from the property.

If a CO couldn't access your land how could he give tickets for hunting violations? It would be very difficult for people to be caught in the act. People are surprised by CO's every day in the field on both private and public land. Are you telling me that if you were on your own land and the CO approached you in your stand to see your license you would tell him to leave? I don't think so.

Welcome to FM by the way.

[lawdog]

Any Ag land doesn't need to be posted, other land does, for ticket purposes, still should have permission to start

You are confusing two very different issues. Trespassing in general vs. retrieving wounded game. You are simply wrong as the plain language quoted multiple times shows, but obviously you don't care to be bothered with facts that differ from your opinion... GOOD GRIEF!

[pulleye16]

I've been way out in the swamps duck hunting on private land when out of now where a CO will come and check us out. I've also had a neighbor (not a friend) get swormed by CO agents on his private land for baiting deer. You can bet CO agents don't need permission to enter your land...now entering a dwelling, building, or even a fish house, yes they need permission just like a cop.

These threads always upset me. JUST ASK FOR PERMISSION IF ITS NOT YOUR LAND...AND LAND OWNERS, JUST LET THEM GET THERE DEER espicially if they ask nicely!!!

[walleyehunter80]

Down here in Iowa it's Illegal to not track your wounded game regardless of where it goes. You can't carry a weapon with you once you cross property lines unless you get permission but you can not be denied access to track it unarmed. If a landowner has a problem with that and fights you about it, the CO will give him the ticket for hunter harrasment.

Thats the best thing ever!!! Every state should go this way!!! My family owns 460 acres and I support this

[vitalshot5]

unless a co suspects a crime has been committed, he cannot stay on your property if asked to leave, if they have a tip about baiting or over limit they may enter, but they may not, if asked to leave, stay without permission.

[luckey]

A while back every year a neighbor would walk to our camp site at 9:00 am. Usually my dad was the only one there. He would tell him they had a wounded deer and wanted to find it. He then proceed to circle a strip of woods (actually a bedding area that we never hunted) while three of his buddies spread out and walked through the area. They usually chased out some deer and shot some. (not surprising because we would always see deer in there if we walked through it). Three years ago I came off my stand early and met them on the field just after they attempted to find a "wounded" deer. I told them in the future they must find me and I will help them track the "wounded" deer. This is the forth season since that time and they have never had another wounded deer to track. Go figure.

[Ferny]

The rule where I hunt (signed posted private property)is if they can show us the hit site and a blood trail entering our property then yes they can but only with us and after legal hunting time. Or if it's within sight of us grab it and leave.

If they shot it in our woods (illegally) or can't find a blood trail then it's no way! I've had it happen twice so far in the last 6 years where hunters from outside our property tracked "wounded deer" with no visible blood trails onto our property. I saw them and asked them to leave and meet us at our truck after legal hunting was over so they could talk directly to the landowner. Both times we all looked together without finding any blood trail but did see tracks and never found deer.

I don't think most people want their hunting area trompped around in after you go through great pains entering and leaving, scent control, managing the land, paying taxes...etc.

It sounds like sometimes people may use it as a ploy to look on private land and or chase deer to their party???

To us it's a safety issue. We do not want to get shot and heaven forbid shoot anyone else that isn't supposed to be there!

Ferny.

[Musky Buck]

A ditto to my post luckey, I've had the wounded deer story meaning pushing a piece of your ground toward there's or waiting hunters. Only to say whatever and funny how there never is a wounded one again. And funny how they manage to sit there stands all morning then show up around 11:00 am. I ask them well I didn't hear a gun shot in our section this morning so when did you wound it or are you knife hunters ? Or I get, I didn't know I crossed the property line or I even had 1 guy not wearing blaze orange sneaking in to hunt away from where I do and watch 1 good trail, the snow ruined his cheating, followed his boot tracks after dark as fast as possible and caught up to him. He was fully aware of what he was doing, his last remark was I don't have a very good spot to hunt. I said you do it again and you'll have a hard time seeing anything with your head up you know where.

[MNfan]

There is no distinction between agricultural land or wooded land in the law when it come to entering to retrieve a wounded animal. The only distinction is if it is posted or not. Go out to the DNR HSOforum and read it yourself.

All ag land is considered posted by law so permision is required.

[swedishpimple]

I started this post but never explained my story.

Sunday morning at about 7:30 I hit the doe bleat a few times and cought some movement out of my left eye. I knew there was a nice buck in the area due to the scrapes..rubs..the shine of a bucks antlers I saw Saturday morning in the moonlight...and the sounds from a good sized deer I woke up on my way into the stand.

This was too goo to be true...here was a nice buck 8 or 10...never had the chance to count....maybe a 12 or 14 by the end of the story.

He was about 100 yards away a "trotting" but not a real tough shot....being too good to be true I put the scope on him..and squeezed...instead of falling he ran..big surprise there..I shot again...and once more...then fumbled for clip # 2...onlt 1 in the hole 2 in the clip due to weak springs on these magnum clips.

He finally stopped broadside in my trail when I was reloading...and went a little further and went down by the river.

I waited about 30 minutes..cuz I thought he was toast...on the way out of the stand I spooked him and away he went...about 50 yards and down again.....so I headed away in a different direction..not too spook him....wrong...up again..and into the river he goes...by now I am in deperation mode...I run towards the river just to see hime get out..and take a poke at him..nothing...then one more hail marry and he was gone.

Lots and lots of blood on my side of the river...so I know he can't go too far.

Back to camp to get help..more bullets...water....yada yada....then to the other side of the river....I picked up his tracks on the road..but no blood..then I found blodd on the neighbors land....I had already talked to them and they were cool with me goin in there.

Soon my buddy shows up and we slowly head down the blood trail...It is now 10:30 or so....as we tracked him down a trail and across a field....we never suspect he is between us and the highway...wrong..we go a little more and up and over the highway he goes into neighbor # 2. We see where he wnet into their woods...but..nope....they were not about to let us go in after him.

I had my chances...he should be in my possession..but..that did not work out......just sucks that I could not finish the job. If the neighbors got him..fine...I hope they feel good about deer......argh...I would rather the wolves...eagles and crows have a free meal on me.

[norm25]

Pulled from posts by Swedishpimple.......100 yards away and trotting....not a real tough shot????????I squeezed again not a real shot there....and once again I fumbled for clip number two??????????????? I run towards the river just to see him get out..and take a poke at him..nothing...then one more hail marry and he was gone..I had my chances...he should be in my possession..but..that did not work out......just sucks that I could not finish the job. If the neighbors got him..fine...I hope they feel good about deer......argh...I would rather the wolves...eagles and crows have a free meal on me.

I waited a day because I thought this story was toast!!

Yes I am A Jerk and I am pretty sure that is why you have no other responses either that or because you have no respect for the deer.

[norm25]

argh...I would rather the wolves...eagles and crows have a free meal on me.

[lawdog]

norm25, pretty harsh on him aren't you? 100 yards at a trot (not a run) is a pretty easy shot with a modern high power rifle. Then he waited, he thought, sufficient time for him to die but jumped him as he tried to retrieve and then tried to put down a wounded deer before it got away. No respect for the deer? I really don't see it. You are way overboard in your post!