Denied access while tracking a wounded Buck

[swedishpimple]

Would you deny access to your land to a hunter tracking a wounded deer???

[Big A]

No. In fact show me the blood trail and I would even lend a hand. Good Karma.

[Farley]

I thought you didnt even need permission if you were unarmed.

[madbomber10]

You can track unarmed w/out permission until you are asked to leave then you have to leave. Unfortunate if that happens, but it is the law.

[Farley]

Found it in the regs, I guess it's just dogs you can go get:

• A person on foot may, without permission, enter land that is not

posted to retrieve a wounded animal that was lawfully shot, but

may not remain on the land after being told to leave.

• A person on foot may, without permission, enter private land

without a firearm to retrieve a hunting dog. After retrieving the

dog, the person

must immediately leave the premises. This exception

does not authorize

the taking of the wild animal.

[Berens Lake ON]

I deny access almost everytime, I tell the hunters that I'll track it and call them if i find it (or if the trail leaves my property). If I find it I put it down and drag it out to the nearest road with the ATV so they can field dress it on their property.

If it's primetime (6:30-11:00 AM and 2:00-5:30 PM) I wait until my hunt is done so that kinda make some guys hot but in the end they get their deer.

I know that it makes my neighbors mad and a couple have called the wardens on me but I'm ok with that and the local warden say's that as long as I make an attempt he's OK with that too. I see my local CO on my game camera's from time to time so I'm guessing he's out checking out what I'm hiding... nothing (but I'm glad he's out doing his job).

[harvey lee]

As long as I can see a blood trail from where they were hunting and it was not shot on our private property, no problem at all.

This weekend in North Dakota, I has a fellow set up on the neighbors land but was hunting our alfalfa field. Now if he would have shot a deer there, I would have not let him take the deer.

All of our land is posted heavily and noone can say they did not see the postings.

He has been asked to not hunt that field yet he still continues too.

Thats the kind of situation that causes the problems for all the honest hunters.

[PerchJerker]

There's a couple guys that set up on the road that borders my property, 1 right across from my property, the other 1 is a couple hundred yards past my property line. In the evening deer cross the road and head towards my food plots and those slobs shoot them on the road. It's illegal and unethical and I don't let them come onto my land (they only tried it once).

I'll let other guys come into my land to retrieve deer, as long as they aren't hunting on the road or right on my property lines. I just try to get them in and out of there as quick as possible.

[RK]

Hiya -

If someone's trailing a deer onto our land, we let them do so, no questions asked. We help track it, if we're able to do so. A couple times I've been out until close to 10 pm helping a neighbor track a wounded deer. To me, it's part of being an ethical hunter.

We're fortunate in that our neighbors give us the same courtesy. It's all private land around us, so it's a case of reaping what you sow, both ways.

[crothmeier]

if i had land i would assist the person in tracking it, in hopes they would do the same for me, but there has to be a blood trail, and i would want to see where the deer was initially hit at.

[OnAFly]

I've been in this situation once. It was the second weekend of hunting and we are generally not on our land that weekend. We have people that have land next to us that we are pretty sure hunt ours while we aren't there (told me about how great our land was for hunting before realizing I was the son of the owner )

A few years back, I went back up for the second weekend. My car was behind the barn, so pretty out of sight. I come back to the house after the morning hunt and see a guy in one of our fields, so I take the wheeler out and see what's going on. When I got up to him, he started walking off the field. I asked what he was doing, and he replied he had shot a deer and it ran into our woods.

I looked up and down the tree line for any sign of blood and found nothing. I've got no problem with finding a wounded dear that ran onto our land if shot legally. I would much rather have the animal not go to waste. I don't appreciate people who use this excuse for hunting where they shouldn't be.

[LightningBG]

Found it in the regs, I guess it's just dogs you can go get:

• A person on foot may, without permission, enter land that is not

posted to retrieve a wounded animal that was lawfully shot, but

may not remain on the land after being told to leave.

• A person on foot may, without permission, enter private land

without a firearm to retrieve a hunting dog. After retrieving the

dog, the person

must immediately leave the premises. This exception

does not authorize

the taking of the wild animal.

Your first bullet point shows that it's not just for dogs. You can track without permission, but have to leave if asked.

[Walleye Guy]

I saw the term "my property line" used above. Its not one person's property line. Hunting next to a property line, while inconvenient and annoying, is still perfectly legal. If they shoot a deer on your land that is a different issue. The other land owner has just as much right to hunt a property line as you do.

I'll let another hunter enter and track a deer as long as it was shot legally and the ethically to the best of my knowldege. There is no reason to get the game warden involved. I'd rather get the tracking and dragging over so I can get back to hunting.

[lawdog]

We had this Saturday with a deer my niece shot getting across the road into a corn we didn't have permission for. The owner is a little eccentric and doesn't let people hunt. My bro went and told him the circumstance and he said we could go in there to look for him but only if his kid went with to make sure we were actually tracking a wounded deer. We said fine and the kid actually helped us look. We found the buck and I put him down as he tried to run out the side again and through a bean field adjacent to this corn. Thanked the kid for helping and told him to thank his dad for letting us go in there. I had bloody corn stalk in my hand from the first field he went through to get out of the property and cross the road. Hard to doubt we had a wounded deer, but having the kid there didn't hurt a thing either.

[Farley]

Originally Posted By: Farley

Found it in the regs, I guess it's just dogs you can go get:

• A person on foot may, without permission, enter land that is not

posted to retrieve a wounded animal that was lawfully shot, but

may not remain on the land after being told to leave.

• A person on foot may, without permission, enter private land

without a firearm to retrieve a hunting dog. After retrieving the

dog, the person

must immediately leave the premises. This exception

does not authorize

the taking of the wild animal.

Your first bullet point shows that it's not just for dogs. You can track without permission, but have to leave if asked.

The way I read it is if it's posted you cant go on at all without permission, unless you are retireiving your hunting dog.

[Walleye Guy]

You do not need permission for unposted land. However posting land is denying permission. If its posted you need to go ask permission or get the CO involved.

[archerystud]

There are a certain few that I will deny permission to tracking a wounded deer to. Let's just say they have done things in the past that justify me not letting them track a deer onto our property.

That being said I have probably helped track/get 5 deer that have run onto our property in the past 20 years.

[harvey lee]

Its to bad people just don't always ask and we would not be having this talk.

[PerchJerker]

I saw the term "my property line" used above. Its not one person's property line. Hunting next to a property line, while inconvenient and annoying, is still perfectly legal.

My west property line borders national forest, and my north property line borders a road with national forest across the road from my property. There's thousands of acres there that's open to public hunting. And there's a couple guys that hunt the national forest but they pick stand sites right on my property line, or sit in the ditch and shoot deer that come out on the road ---- and I won't let them come into my property to retrieve a deer.

If they shoot a deer 100 yards or so off the road or off my property line and the deer runs into my property I'll let them come in.

IMO it would be a different situation if I shared property lines with other private landowners.

[Esox_Magnum]

Down here in Iowa it's Illegal to not track your wounded game regardless of where it goes. You can't carry a weapon with you once you cross property lines unless you get permission but you can not be denied access to track it unarmed. If a landowner has a problem with that and fights you about it, the CO will give him the ticket for hunter harrasment.

[tunrevir]

I have experienced this at my house on a couple occassions. Scenario 1: I hear a shot opening morning early. I have a 6 point bedded below my tree, have seen multiple deer since the first shot a couple hundred yards to my south. Approximately 45 minutes later I see a nicer buck hobbling towards me. He beds 60 yards out and sits there. I have no shot. 20 minutes later i see him look back and he jumps up and hobbles for my tree. I drop him 10 yards from my treestand and wait. After 20 minutes I decide i better get down and begin feild dressing him. Just as I am about to make the first cut I hear someone say,"Did you get him?" "Can I take a look at him?" I say sure the guy comes over and looks him over and says I shot him right away this morning and have been tracking him since. I offer the guy the deer and help him drag it to the edge of the property to field dress it while I go back to hunting. I was glad he followed up on the shot and took the time to track a wounded deer.

Scenario#2: I have a neighbor whom I do not know call and ask for permission to track an animal that has come onto my land. After a few quick questions on where, when, ect, I say go ahead, I'll meet you out there and help you track it. Made a new friend and helped him find the animal.

Scenario #3: Find a stand setup on the edge of the property and orange flagging tape in my woods following a blood trail. Stand was right on the fenceline facing into my woods. No call from the person, no permission to be on my land and hunting in a deicdely(by me) unethical spot. Call the game warden, let him review the evidence and let him followup. He calls later in the season and says he tracked down the guy do I want to press charges. Yep, write him up and let him know he could have hunted the area if he had asked but don't ever bother to ask me for permission in the future. I have no problem helping somone find a wounded animal or cross my land to track it and will even help out but when people are so darn bold as to sneak to the edge to hunt where they know they shouldn't I give them no leeway. I think most property owners are willing to let you go after a wounded animal, look for it with you or for you but I would always go the safe route and ask before entering. Who knows, yu may gain some access to a piece of property you always wanted to hunt!

Tunrevir~

[harvey lee]

It all comes down to hunters trying to get away with something and that starts all the issues and we end up with more laws.

I would always help a lawful hunter but the others I will chase away.

[Big Dave2]

There are a certain few that I will deny permission to tracking a wounded deer to. Let's just say they have done things in the past that justify me not letting them track a deer onto our property.

That being said I have probably helped track/get 5 deer that have run onto our property in the past 20 years.

If you guys chase people away or deny access, what happens to the wounded animal?

[Big Dave2]

Just heard a story about this tonight. 2 buddies of mine were hunting on another buddies parents land where some of our group have hunted for more than 20 years. One of the guys shoots a deer this morning and it turned and ran into a neighbors corn field.

Trying to be as ethical as possible, these 2 guys go to the farm house and ask permission to look for the wounded deer. The farmers wife is the only one home at the time and grants the permission for them to enter.

A little while later as they are still tracking this deer the farmer comes home and starts raising holy he** with these guys for being on his land even though his wife gave them the ok. He tells them at first that they have to leave and that they had better not have shot that 10 pointer he has seen while bow hunting. He says he is going to call the DNR. He tells them that if it IS the 10 pointer they will never be leaving his land with it.

Well eventually they end up persuading him to let them track a little more and they find the 8 pointer my buddy shot(not the 10 pointer)so he tells them to get it off his land and not ever to come back.

A lot of people are way over the top protective of their land.

[dave12341234]

yah bigdave i completly agree! If I seen someone crossing my land to track a deer, id probably run out and help them, not raise living h*ll. Deer are not going to STAY on your land, they move alot. That being said,you really shouldnt yell at someone because they shot a deer on there land and it crossed over, just as long as he wasnt actually hunting on your land.

I actually was in a little situation by my neighbor(whom I dont know) that comes up every hunting season. he has a 40 adjacent to mine. while one night i cut through a corner of his land just for my convienance (there was snow), otherwise i would have had to walk all the way around it. well, I probably laid about 20 footprints on his land. he came to my house ON THANKSGIVING, with his rifle in his hand. not joking at all, we were just about to say the Lord's Prayer, and we hear a knock. as soon as i opened the door, he unleaashed on me. I calmly told him to leave and that i was sorry. He kept yelling and i said if you dont get off my land right now, ill call the cops. his face turned redder than a beet, and he walked away. now thats crossing the line!