Man shot while ice fishing!!

[cold one sd]

I don't know for sure what the regulations are where the guys were ice fishing. but I would think that I would expect any shanty on the ice to be occupied. Even if these young people don't know the regulations, it is still wrong to shoot into an ice house, occupied or not. I hope they all learn from this. I carried a BB fifle in the field for about three years before I was allowed to carry a shotgun and if I pointed the BB gun in the wrong direction, my dad busted my butt. I think it was no more than good training.

[Mr.Seaguar]

I used to live 2 doors down from a meth dealer. Some of the comments in this thread scare me way more than he ever did.

[widetrak]

It was an absolutely stupid thing that young one did, but no real suprise for fifteen really. He will pay for this forever whatever the penalty is for him. As for you guys talking about coming out and shooting back, you know well that a jury would decide your fate whether or not you hit anyone. This aint war men!

[walleyehunter80]

yeah people with the "shoot first ask questions later" will end up in jail or prison sometime in their life.

Think about it, your sitting on the lake minding your own business and a bullet comes screaming through your house and does or does not strike anyone or anything. You cant just assume someone is out there to KILL you or the guy your with, I mean what are the odds? Did you do something to make someone want to KILL you? Pry not! So self defence is out of the question!

If For some reason I was the guy out shooting cans and bottles and I did look around for people and did not see anyone or the fishhouse that was on the lake, someone shooting at ME in "self defense" would only get more rounds fired at you since that would be self defense in my part.

I would suggest leaving your GUN at HOME where it belongs unless your hunting and use your VOICE to let someone know your there and to stop their fireing in your direction!!!!!

MY 2 CENTS

[walleyehunter80]

oh yeah and I have been shot at while sitting in my goose decoys out in the middle of a field. a farmer decided he would drive up to the field and scare my decoys away with a rifle. i had a gun and the guys i was with had guns and WE did not shoot back but we jumped up and started yelling and waiving our hands.

chalk it up to a mistake, he was not trying to murder me just a old farmer stuck in old ways

[Wanderer]

One shooter in the group but the rest of the group likely knew what he was aiming at. Bad decisions all around when they didn't stop him from pulling the trigger.

I think any responsible gun carrier would have held his direct fire when he came out and saw them running. Emotions might say otherwise but in reality I think the kids would have been able to get away safely.

BTW, I've had a plinker's bullets come whizzing by me while fishing on the river. I yelled back at him. He went into rapid fire for a moment then left. It's pretty scary.

[peerchking]

I pray the guy recovers fully and I'm glad the kid turned him self in. It at least let's the rest of us know that there are not someone still out there shooting randomly.

[gulllakeguy]

Shooting someone that is running away from you is not self defense...even if they shot you. In the court of law if this guy would have shot one or more of these kids, he would be in for an extended stay at a state prison. If the kid would have stood there and kept shooting or even pointing the gun at him then he is within the law to protect himself by shooting and killing this kid. I sure hope the guy is OK.This kid should lose his right to own a firearm for life and sit some time(a long time) if they can prove that he purposefully shot at the portable with an idea that someone was in it.

[deerwoody]

As for you guys talking about coming out and shooting back, you know well that a jury would decide your fate whether or not you hit anyone. This aint war men!

All my posts were on self defense,you dont get a jury trial for that.I'm done with this one.Get well soon to the unlucky fisherman.

[leech~~]

Sorry to change the subject of who would shoot or back at who? But they said they had to leave the bullet in the guy. Why is a lead bullet left in someone not as bad as they are making out eating a little lead in Deer meat? I would think that the long term absorption through the blood stream would be worst then the quick trip through and out of the stomach?

[croixflats]

I have heard this done a few times through the years. I beleive a lead bullet does not get absorbed and sometimes it works its way out and usually comes out at a higher point in the body if it does work its way out.

I think the bullet ended up in his leg and surgery could have done more damage to get it out than leaving it in.

Good point to ponder.

The bullet from the deer you ingest goes directly to your digestive system and the more you eat the more you accumalate where as one does not get shot that often.

[Fishnblood]

I am wondering is why all of a sudden these kids were running away? How far were these kids from this shack? I'm no gun expert but a .22 that pierces through a portable and in to a guy's thigh? Gotta be kinda close, no?

I can agree to both views, self defense firing back or not? I personally wouldn't have my gun strapped to my hip ice fishing (in the pickup different story)?

But realize by the time you get out of the shack noticing your shot, reaching for your piece, and firing as they are running away chances are you wouldn't hit them anyway but maybe another innocent person?

But then again, adrenalin pumping, just been shot, initial instinct kicks in, bad day of fishing (kidding), been shot at before or someone close to you has been killed by gunfire? Then I can understand where one would fire back.

All in all I highly doubt a well informed individual that has there conceal carry license that shot a 15 year old "one-who-thinks-I-am-silly" would win when the story is played out and your facing a jury?

I hope this guy fully recovers.

I hope the kid learns a very good lesson and does get a stiff punishment. Including the parents!

every individual reacts differently, and its hard to say personally what i would do unless it actually happened to me.

[fishersofmen]

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth??

[zamboni]

I think Fish, they were running because they knew full well what they were doing. When little kids break a window playing baseball, they run. Always.

[Sandmannd]

yeah people with the "shoot first ask questions later" will end up in jail or prison sometime in their life.

Think about it, your sitting on the lake minding your own business and a bullet comes screaming through your house and does or does not strike anyone or anything. You cant just assume someone is out there to KILL you or the guy your with, I mean what are the odds? Did you do something to make someone want to KILL you? Pry not! So self defence is out of the question!

If For some reason I was the guy out shooting cans and bottles and I did look around for people and did not see anyone or the fishhouse that was on the lake, someone shooting at ME in "self defense" would only get more rounds fired at you since that would be self defense in my part.

I would suggest leaving your GUN at HOME where it belongs unless your hunting and use your VOICE to let someone know your there and to stop their fireing in your direction!!!!!

MY 2 CENTS

[fishinJohn]

When I was young I took hunter safety and learned about gun safety from responsible hunters. I still looked through my dad's closet and found his guns. I took them and shot without permission, at times inappropriately. I never intended to harm anyone but definitely could have if I wasn't so lucky. Kids don't have the same appreciation for the gravity of their actions. Those guns should not been secured by adults. I am all for hunting with legal age kids but when hunting is over those guns belong locked up with ammo locked separately. Not with locks that can be picked either. 15 is getting a little too old to pull stuff like this though. If it were me who got shot I would be hitting the deck, not rather than blindly stepping out toting my own weapon.

[knoppers]

when I wrote that I would shoot back, this was if someone was attempting to murder me, or self defense only. I would not shoot back at some kids running away, that just brings you down to there level.

[Sandmannd]

Exactly knoppers, well said.

[Bottle Fish]

Cant we all just get along!!

[walleyehunter80]

Cant we all just get along!!

Not if someone is trying to kill me!!!!!

[The Hammer]

I was out golfing when I was about 14 and some rifle shots zipped by my head and my friends head. We didn't know how close we were to getting hit. We hit the deck anyway. When there was a break in the shots we ran to the clubhouse and called the police. The police came and found some guys across the highway were shooting a .22 over a pond and the shots were bouncing off the water and zooming over our heads. After that I think I shot about 20 over par on 9 holes.

[CANOPY SAM]

Had the bullet struck him in the neck or spine, even a .22 could have paralyzed this man for life. Hit him in the eye, enough said. Hit him in the heart, I've watched people die in the ER from a .22 bullet in the heart.

The repercussions of this boy's actions are serious, and I truly hope the court system takes this into consideration when handing down a sentance. He certainly won't do prison time, but I'd doubt this will go completely unpunished. Someone was shot, intentionally or not.

I'm just guessing, but the bullet likely lodged in a highly vascularized (lots of primary blood vessels) area in the man's hip. A little lead in the bloodstream over many years, is reasonably harmless compared to bleeding out on the operating table cause a major artery was knicked while taking out a little lead bullet.

It is really shocking, and dissappointing to read that any kid would be this foolish.

[CANOPY SAM]

Oh, one other thing. I've had high powered rifle bullets raining down on me during deer season, some so close they blew dirt into my face.

Maybe I'm just a coward, but retaliating was not high on my list of priorities at the time. I was on the ground, curled into a fetal position and praying to God for deliverance.

This isn't TV guys. I guarantee you won't be so brave while you're being shot at. I know lots of brave soldiers that will share the same sentiment as me.

[brahambaseball]

After that I think I shot about 20 over par on 9 holes.

Man if I could only shoot 20 over on the best of days...