solbes Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I want to try flurocarbon line again for a leader material this year. I fish a lake that's near 15 foot clarity and would like the last 3 or 4 feet to be invisible. A few years back I tried using Vanish 10 lb, but I had a lot of snap-off's when casting cranks. I used a palomar knot with lots of lubrication when cinching down.Anyone know of a better line I should try? Is 10 lb too light? Would a 15 or 20 lb be more visible to walleyes? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Pearson Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I like the vanish and don't have any problems with it. If you're casting cranks for 'eyes, try going to either 12 or 15 pound line, and they still won't see it. Otherwise, for lindy rigging, I love vanish.l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Otter Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I use 6# Vanish and don't have any trouble but I only use a leader for slip bobber fishing and riggin'. When casting cranks, I use Fireline Crystal, which is also what I recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigeye30" Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Vanish for me as well, I usually use either 6 or 8 pound and have had no problems, I don't run a flouro leader for cranks though, but have not had any breakoff problems yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverBassGuy Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I've had terrible luck with vanish. When it comes to lindy rig leaders or anything else I use Seagar. Knocks everything out of the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotspotter Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I too have had back luck with the Vanish. Somewhat brittle, "split-ends" , bad memory for your longer leaders. Works in a pinch and is readily available. Seagar is good stuff, but I like the Gamma Floro a bit better. Seems to have much less memory than anything I've tried if you're storing some of your longer snells. Just like their copoly, fishes 2lbs lighter, breaks 2lbs heavier than advertised lb-age. Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerchJerker Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I've mostly used Vanish in open water, have been okay with it but definately not in love with it. After trying some Gamma and P-Line on the ice this year and really liking those I think I'll try one of them for my flouro leaders this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUM Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I have had good luck with vanish in anything 10lb and less.. but when I used 12-17lb for bass fishing I had MAJOR issues.. it seems the larger lb vanish is very brittle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solbes Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 My sample size of one (10 lb Vanish) seemed also to be very brittle. Of course it was 3 or 4 years ago when I last tried it. And as suggested above, maybe I should stick with the Fireline for casting (which is on my spool right now anyway).I'll look into the Seagar, Gamma, or P-line. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyEyes Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I am trying the new Trilene 100% Flourocarbon this year. I did not like vanish at all. I was going to try Gamma as well, but haven't gotten around to it. I would use straight fireline for cranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick in Mud Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 For the Gamma, does the "fishes 2lbs lighter, breaks 2lbs heavie" mean that line labeled "8 lb" has the diameter of 6 lb and the strength of 10 lb. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhguide Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Vanish I swear by it I think it helps get more bites i really do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexipro Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 P LINE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Almquist Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I use Gamma as my main line and have no problem using it as my leader but if you want a real limp leader material that is fluoro try some Frog Hair- It is a tippet line but very strong for the diameter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farley Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I've used PLine and like it, I also just got dont tying a buch of snells using 8-10lb Vanish. I have used it before and never had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose89 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I've had problems with Vanish when it got old. I'm not sure the date it was made, so I don't know exactly how old it was, but the first year after I bought it, no problems. Tried to make it another year, just using it for leaders off the end of Fireline, lots of breakoff just casting. Had good luck with P-line and Seaguar, also. Bad results with the German brand that Cabela's used to sell. I forget the name. I don't see it on the Cabela's site any more. No good though. Farley, I haven't used Vanish (any Flouro) for snells yet because it sinks. I just don't like the idea of my snell completely laying on the bottom. Let me know how it works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotspotter Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Carmike:Not officially. It's just a really limp line with low memory, which makes it fish and feel a bit lighter than it is. Combine that with good abrasion resistance and knot strength and it seems to take a beating compared to other line of similar advertised lb-age. That's just my experience with it.Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOlson Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 If you have to run a flourocarbon leader I would use the Gamma P-line. Take a piece of Gamma and cut about a 2 foot chunk and tie it in a knot and try to brake it. You will find that the Vanish will snap with little effort were the Gamma you have to pull very hard to break it. I would still say 6 lb low vis green Trilene XL is the go to line for rigging. Monofilement doesnt tend to sink as easily as flourocarbon giving your presentation a more life like appearance. If you are worried about walleyes seeing your line, why do they bite a jig with pink fire line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northlander Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I have been having real good results with all the Gamma products I have tried. I tie all my spinners with Gamma or Trilene XT in 12# test. Lots of Lake Superior guys are now running Gamma on all their trolling rods. Im going to try it for jigging this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croixeyes Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Ive been using Pline CFX for my leaders for a few years now,and havent had any problems at all.It comes in a small spool of 27yards and is around 7 to 8 bucks for a spool but in my book is money well spent.I like the small spools for leader material cause I get a seasons use out of one and its not sitting around getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose89 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 What croixeyes said. Good advice and good leader material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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