LMITOUT Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 They need the roster space and unless the rookies and FA's completely flop, Ponder is leaving town on the next thing smokin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'm not sure I would agree with that at all. We've all witnessed what Ponder can do and it's fairly obvious that his abilities (or lack thereof) are mutually exclusive to any type of system. He doesn't pass the smell test, other than that he stinks. He was nothing more than a desperation draft pick that failed miserably. You took what I said out of context but I do agree. When I said all 3 QB's are equal I'm talking about opportunity. New coaches and new playbook, none of them really have an advantage over the others with everything being new. That's why it's an open competition.Not like I really think Blunder stands a chance at being the starter, but his opportunity is equal. If you look at my next sentences I say I'd hate for our staff to go with Cassel just because he has been a starter in the past even though Teddy beats him out and is the better QB. I don't mention Blunder at all lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Lets not forget that the system Blunder and Cassel played under in MN was pretty horrid. When you lead off your thoughts with that comment it pretty much appears that you are blaming the system, not Ponder. Then to follow that up by saying all three QB's are now equal and the table has been reset, well... it seems the context is fairly clear. I disagree that Ponder will be given an equal opportunity and that it's an open competition. He needs to go. We saw what happened when T-Jack was left lingering in the background...sooner or later that ugly head rears itself and we're back to square one again. You don't want that to even be a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I was talking about both Blunder and Cassel but you only like to keep pointing out Blunder? Either way it's the truth, the system and playbook our QB's had last yr was horrible, not to mention how we never let any QB get into any kind of rhythm by doing the QB merry go round week after week. Would of been difficult for any QB into rhythm and thrive, unless of course it was the MIGHTY JOHNNY FOOTBALL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMusky Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Need the roster space? Yeah, they also need 3 qbs. Let's not forget that. Who would be filling this spot if its not ponder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Most teams don't carry 3 QB's anymore. I forget who the "experts" were talking about, but there are a handful of players that the Vikings may want to keep on the roster (barring any setbacks between now and the season opener) and Ponder would be the odd man out to make room. They'll hold onto him until the last possible moment just in case something happens to Cassel or Bilgewater, but after that he should be cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 The 3rd QB is easily hidden away on the practice squad...usually an UDFA with upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 That rules out Ponder. I'm fairly certain he's not eligible to be placed on the practice squad anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandmannd Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I don't believe Ponder was/is as bad as most believe him to be. Chillypepper's offense was horrible and Frazier was a lapdog for the hire ups. No one knew how to bring up a QB. I think with the right person coaching Ponder could be a serviceable QB. Look at the Offensive line the last couple of years. They couldn't make a pocket if you gave them a needle and thread. Hard to pass when you're on your back. I don't think Ponder should be on this team, but he wasn't the biggest issue either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJuice1980 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Its not Ponders athletic ability, its his head. And like Sandmann says, a lot of good QBs out there its all about environment. Ponder had a terrible environment to flourish. It was like surviving on an island with nothing to eat but snails. Sure you'll probably survive but what kind of existence is that. Pretty comparable to having an 80:20 run to pass ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I think calling ponder a cancer is a bit of a stretch. I believe he will be on the roster who else would be there? Not saying he is going to lead this team to the promised land but he is certainly not someone who destroys a locker room like others.A first round bust is just that...a bust. Move on and be done with it. It happens....When you pick another 1st rounder to play the same position...just a few years later...you really know it was a bust.A "divorce" just happened between Ponder and the Vikes...I don't know of many who would welcome their "ex" back in to their home to live with them if they had already re-married.Inviting Ponder back in to the mix with a roster spot would the same thing...it just doesn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toughguy Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Here he is in his last game vs. Miami. Miami's defense isn't the Miami of old but he took them apart. For the most part I like what I see although it didn't start off the best I would like to see him look off his first option more - I hope they can fix that. If you watch his stuff from 2012 there he made a lot of improvement on looking off the 1st guy in 2013. He is comfortable in the pocket and has a good quick release. He's got a better chance of making it in the NFL than the last 2 drafted QBs had. I'm not chugging, but I am starting to sip the kool-aid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countyline Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I don't believe Ponder was/is as bad as most believe him to be. Chillypepper's offense was horrible and Frazier was a lapdog for the hire ups. No one knew how to bring up a QB. I think with the right person coaching Ponder could be a serviceable QB. Look at the Offensive line the last couple of years. They couldn't make a pocket if you gave them a needle and thread. Hard to pass when you're on your back. I don't think Ponder should be on this team, but he wasn't the biggest issue either. Did you just mention, say he played under Childress AKA chillypepper? Unreal and thanks for the info. Thanls for the proof. Dude really? Chilly drafted him, and or he played under him? Yup......you fail!!!!!! Thanks for the proof, BTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Here he is in his last game vs. Miami. Miami's defense isn't the Miami of old but he took them apart. For the most part I like what I see although it didn't start off the best I would like to see him look off his first option more - I hope they can fix that. If you watch his stuff from 2012 there he made a lot of improvement on looking off the 1st guy in 2013. He is comfortable in the pocket and has a good quick release. He's got a better chance of making it in the NFL than the last 2 drafted QBs had. I'm not chugging, but I am starting to sip the kool-aid "> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 He accidentally put on Michaels glove during the 1st quarter, after that he found his glove and the rest is history!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Is now splitting 1st team reps with Cassel..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 It really shouldn't be that tough to beat out a Journeyman QB if you got skills and put in the work. I hear Teddy is beating out Cassel in most of the skill drills so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMusky Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I want him to do well, but I dont want to see it thrown into the starting job if he isnt ready. We have a guy who can play so barring injury there is no need to rush him. Now if he beats out Cassel then I am all for it.There were comments made that Cassel was clearly superior at mini camp. Then training camp came along, he was showing confidence and leading the offense (FWIW in training camp) and then saw Bridgewater make some plays and apparently has taken a step back.Thats not a good sign. I want all guys competing for the job at their highest level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Here he is in his last game vs. Miami. Miami's defense isn't the Miami of old but he took them apart. For the most part I like what I see although it didn't start off the best I would like to see him look off his first option more - I hope they can fix that. If you watch his stuff from 2012 there he made a lot of improvement on looking off the 1st guy in 2013. He is comfortable in the pocket and has a good quick release. He's got a better chance of making it in the NFL than the last 2 drafted QBs had. I'm not chugging, but I am starting to sip the kool-aid "> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRiverRat Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Badly overthrown balls and [PoorWordUsage] poor decisions are Bridgetoalosingseason guarantees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckycrank Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 So let me ask this roadtoarumriverreject. Is that the reason why minnesota is 3-5 ? . And why bridgewater is running for his life. Its obvious hes not an Elite QB , keep in mind he is a rookie .. it was a losing season before the opening snap this year if it wasnt bridgewater.. you probally come up with the casselofadoomedseason. Or some other biast Idiom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebs Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Qbs that are consistently running for their life dont have much of a chance for great success. Any remember favres stats that last season here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMusky Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Bridgewater has work to do for sure. Deep passes need more accuracy but at least is he overthrowing not under throwing. At least you can work with touch. You can't create arm strength.The guy is a gamer. Came from behind two weeks in a row that says a lot. He seems to excel when up against the clock. We haven't had that since Favre. Give him back some of the lost weapons and an effective o line and we are talking about a first place team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I don't think he even over threw Patterson, Patterson lost it in the sun. That sucks, it was an easy TD.Bridgewater with another W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I don't think he even over threw Patterson, Patterson lost it in the sun. That sucks, it was an easy TD.Bridgewater with another W. What about the Jennings ball on the first play?? Had a couple other 15-20 yarders that sailed on him and a couple more that looked like wounded ducks. He should have never put that much air under the Patterson ball either. Tjack could throw the deep ball better than Teddy. It was the checkdown where he had trouble. And sure he is really getting pressured on some plays, but there are others where he has more than ample time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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