Slice and dice how you want! All of his playing time for the most part in Seattle was mop up duty, or fill in as he is now. He backed up a former Green Bay QB. His career numbers speak for them selves. He may of have had "good" receivers in Seattle but he never had a completion percentage over 65% in any year he had major starts. Look at his overall completion percentage for a career. It's only 1.2% better than his last game in GB filling in. Which has been his career, filling in. He was never the starter unless Hasselbeck was hurt in Seattle. His time in Cleveland, Meh........... He never played a regular season game with the Saints, because he was never on the regular season roster. He was cut during training camp. He also never played a single game for the 49ers in regular season. He was never on their roster, other than preseason. He was there one week before asking for his release. 2013. He did not play or was not even on a team in 2012. Was released by the Browns at the end of preseason 2012. He also played WR in Seattle. Remind anyone of....... Joe Webb??????????? His playing time in Cleveland was a result of injuries to the current starting QB at the time. Hey but at least the Sea chickens got a draft pick for him!!!!! Lets take a look at his win/loss record..............Drum roll please!!!! 21 starts 6 wins to 15 losses. Lets look at that more closely! Ponder, t-jack and yes I am a lions fan so we will include Stafford. They all have a better winning percentage. Heck even Freeman doses "ouch". Tebow is even almost twice his percentage. Joe Webb is even better! Rex Grossman, Gay Culter, Orton, Cassel, David Carr, Josh McCown. I could list a lot more but I need to stop. Any one who is comfortable with him as the starter is drinking green kool-aid like no other. Why is Vince Young not on this team or any other????? The dude is not right in the head. Arm chair QB all you want. He is to short as well as he is only 5-11.