line spooling problems

[mrpike1973]

So i got some trilene #8 xl line to put on my new spinning reel. i started with the spool face up a few turns and it twisted. so i flipped the spool few turns same thing. then the line started jumping off the spool. what a mess what did i do wrong? i even put the spool in warm water i'm tired of buying line that does this i had to throw it away it was so kinked up any help. constantly have this problem i've used stren, cajun, cabelas etc.

[Mike89]

I think it should be over the yop or from from the bottom with the spool spinning on a pencil.

[Alagnak]

It just has to come off the plastic spool the same way it goes on the reel spool. Put the spools facing each other. Are they both going counter clockwise, or clockwise? Doesn't matter as long as they are the same. Like two people running a rump rope the same direction.

[tazimna]

I've noticed same thing on my ice rods. Quick solution is to tie end of line to something outside, then walk back till line is almost all off reel, pull the rod which will stretch line, then reel in controlling the tension a bit.I icefish alot so I find myself doing this weekly to take any twist/kinks out of line. In open water, open your bail and drive boat away until the line is out, then reel in. Will solve problem quickly.

[Gordie]

Throw the line in a bucket of water and then reel it onto the spool while it is in the water.

[amateurfishing]

have had this happen a lot, that's why I switched to inline reels for ice fishing & bait casters for open water.

[RawHog]

In order to take line off a factory-spool in the same way that they put it on is to have to tag line coming from the top or bottom of the spool when the spool sits upright like a wheel.

Think about it.. If you lay a spool on its side and reel it on, each time the line makes a revolution around the spool it twists 360 degrees…. EEEEK!!!

There is 100 yards of line on a spool and for demonstrations purpose, lets say each turn is 8 inches of line per the circumference. 300 ft of line X 12 inches = 3600 total inches of line. 3600/ 8" circumference = 450 full times or 162,000 degrees is how much you twist your line by reeling it onto your spool from the side/ flat position. That, my friend, is why every brand of line you buy seems worthless.

You need to create something simple like this. A run to hardware hank and you'll be covered for about $5-10. [img:left]

[tunrevir]

You can always run your spools into a big box retailer and have them spooled there. Most major retailers offer common lines like Berkely trilene xl and xt and fireline for spooling. The advantage is that you are only paying for the amount of line they apply to the spool and you won't have spools of line laying around with odd amounts of line on them.

Many retailers will also strip and apply specialty lines which you purchase and will fill your spare spools with it. If you like to spool your own line then build yourself an apparatus like Rawhawg did and you will be good to go.

Tunrevir~

[Borch]

I run mine very similar to Rawhog as reeling off the ends still as twist unless the spools are the same size.

[20lbSloughShark]

This is just one of the thousand problems I have with monofilament. Even on baitcasters, it causes a mess. I switched to braid on all my reels, open water and ice fishing. I absolutely love it. Even when you get mono on your line properly, I've never gone a whole season without it causing major headaches. It spools itself, it coils, it wraps around guides, stretches. It might seem a bit much to some, but I would rather put dacron on my reels than go back to mono. Mono has one place, and that is for kids. It doesn't cut easy (as all kids seem to get it wraped up in something), and it wont cut kids hands.

[RawHog]

Memory is different than line twist. Mono has memory, braid does not.

[20lbSloughShark]

I forgot about line twist. While it can cause mono to form loops, it has almost no effect on braid other than causing very small jigs to slowly rotate.

[RawHog]

Oh my god, NO. Twisting causes spinning of small jigs. Coiling on the other hand which is very different and is caused by the memory-property of monofilament does not create lure-spinning.

Twisting causes spinning of lures. Maybe were just confused because of terminology.

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[kfk]

Sloughshark.

Alot of guys use mono without problems and they have for years, some longer than you've been alive. Perhaps your problems with mono are from lack of experience.

Don't you think saying mono "is for kids" is a bit ignorant?

[20lbSloughShark]

Lack of experience? No, Mono is just an inferior product. I'm sure there are guys that like it, but the OP is having issues just like I did for years. I've wasted enough time and mono messing with mono. The fix is so simple, put on braided line.

[delmuts]

I'm going to interrupt things here for a bit.

You will develop line twist with most lines, either when you put it on or use it. Mono can be relaxed by letting out behind a moving boat, in water with current, or letting the line out on a grassy area then pulling for a ways.( with nothing attached to the line) I do this at least every other time I use it.

With braids you do things differently. Tie a swivel to something solid. Attach the end of your line to it, then walk back letting the line out as you go. When you reach the end of the spool, close the bail. Lift your rod up putting tension on the line. Do this four or five times and let the line relax. Repeat this four or five times, this will take out a lot of the twist.

This will save you a lot of headaches.

[20lbSloughShark]

The process of doing that is a headache. I go the whole season without messing with braid. Thats on both spinning and baitcaster reels. I'm sure I could go multiple seasons, but I pull the whole line out, and flip it around to get "new" line on.

[kfk]

I actually haven't used mono for years myself sloughshark and I agree with alot of what you say, but lots of guys still use it like I said earlier and some prefer it because of the stretch. It's not inferior, just different than braid.

[eyeguy 54]

my brain hurts. I am an old kid. I like mono. Mono likes me.

[fiskyknut]

Wow I guess I'm a 52 yo kid then!! Eternal teenager maybe, lol.

I use braids and I use mono. Both have there place in my book.

Dacron ?? Now thats old school thick line there 12lbsloughshark. I won't even use that on tip ups anymore as it'll hold water. Braided nylon for the tip ups as it won't hold water.

One of the 'newer' kind of braids, PP or Fireline. Or mono, XL or Suffix elite for the long rods depending on the circumstance and rod reel set up.

Every now and then I'll de-twist the mono when needed behind the boat or in the yard as mentioned above, no biggy as it don't take long.

fisky

[delcecchi]

Holy cow. I am way older than either of you guys.

And I have braid on pretty much everything, except a couple reels still have that fused stuff. Might have one reel with mono still.

Lately I have been using 832 Suffix. Like it pretty well.

[fiskyknut]

Mono for kids and braid for senior citizens eh !!

832 is good stuff too.

Sumtin else.. Sometimes that roller bearing thingy on the spinning reels bail sticks and that can be a source of major twisting. Check that it spins freely now and then iffin you're constantly getting bad twist in short time of use.

[20lbSloughShark]

All I said was when I set a rod up for kids, I use mono over braid. I'm not saying you're a kid if you use mono, sheesh. If mono works for you, great. The OP is having problems, and I think the solution is braided line. And yes, I used to have dacron on my reels as a kid. My dad had a giant spool of 10# off brand stuff. I think the only reason I went to mono was to keep pike from biting me off. By the time I started working, I could afford all kinds of leaders, and it no longer had any benefit for me. The day I put super braid on my reel was like a light bulb.

[tacklejunkie]

I use braid on my Lake Superior rods except for my downrigger rods as mono stays in the clips better. All my other rods like my walleye jigging/rigging/spinner rods I've done both the braid and mono and I haven't had any line twists with the braid

[tacklejunkie]

I would add that when it comes to braid, using split shot or rubber core sinkers or those clip tip bobbers seem to slip