Dwayne Bowe to the Vikes?

[creepworm]

I just read a third round pick would get him.

[nofishfisherman]

If a 3rd is enough then I'd be inclined to do it. Not likely to get a player of his caliber in the 3rd round.

[Big Dave2]

Quote:

Dwayne Bowe: Lombardi pointed out that the Kansas City Chiefs could expect to receive a third-round compensatory draft pick in return if Bowe left via free agency, so a team would have to give up a second-round pick to get the receiver. That only makes sense if an interested team can negotiate a long-term contract.

[nofishfisherman]

Thanks for posting that. I was looking for info about his trade value. A 2nd rounder is a little tougher to part with.

Any ideas on the depth of the free agent WR pool coming up for the off season. That would partly dictate whether its worth it to do a 2nd rounder and then sign him versus waiting until free agency and hope to sign him then.

[creepworm]

Quote:

Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe was not much of a factor in Week 8 against the Raiders. Bowe finished with just three catches for 65 yards in the 26-16 defeat and only caught one pass in the second half. After the game Sports Illustrated's Peter King reported that Bowe could be had in a trade if a team offered the Chiefs at least a third-round pick in exchange

Looks like some conflicting reports.

[MuleShack]

Straight up trade for AroShaMadu (as Leslie calls him) and a 4th rounder

[nofishfisherman]

Straight up trade for AromaShadu (as Leslie calls him) and a 4th rounder

We'd have to give them a 2nd rounder just to take him. And then another 2nd rounder to get Bowe.

[SkunkedAgain]

The Vikings will continue their usual ways in free agency, picking up Greg Jennings from the Packers

[schmitty3]

That's a big contract to take on for a guy who will be a free agent at the end of the yr. I don't see it happening.

[LMITOUT]

Aren't we putting the cart before the horse here? Maybe before we look at receivers the QB position should be addressed first.

[schmitty3]

we?

[LMITOUT]

We, as in those people salivating over Bowe.

[nofishfisherman]

A 3rd round pick isn't likely to get us a savior at QB. Whether we have Ponder or another QB it would be nice if he had another person to throw to besides Harvin.

[zepman]

I don't understand why Wright hasn't taken the field yet. Everyone always says our WR's have no separation and aren't fast enough to get open down the field.

I don't see that being a problem with our 4th round pick...he can fly.

[LMITOUT]

Whether we have Ponder or another QB it would be nice if he had another person to throw to besides Harvin.

Another person to throw to at the line of scrimmage?

[nofishfisherman]

Quote:

Another person to throw to at the line of scrimmage?

Exactly. Since Ponder is only strong enough to throw the ball 3 yards on the fly.

[fishingstar]

Ponder need linemen that can block and pick up the blitz. He doesn't have time to throw deep.

[Big Dave2]

Ponder need linemen that can block and pick up the blitz. He doesn't have time to throw deep.

Adrian Peterson seems to have no trouble running behind those same offensive linemen. Good QBs make quick decisions and don't need their offensive linemen to block for 10 seconds.

[nofishfisherman]

Run blocking and pass blocking are 2 very different things. And if you watched the Tampa Bay game you would have seen that Ponder had guys on him before he even got to the 3rd step in his 3 step drop. No QB in the league would have gotten the ball to a receiver in that amount of time. And there are times when AP is able to run the ball effectively despite poor blocking.

While the oline has been suspect at times I'm not going to say that's the only issue. As I see it our offense has three issues that all play off of each other.

1. Poor pass blocking - Ponder needs time to throw and the receivers need time to get down field. 2 seconds is not long enough to get the ball down field.

2. Receivers need to get open - Ponder needs open targets to throw to, if WR's can get open quicker the oline doesn't need to pass block so long. Harvin is the only one who can get any separation and when he does Ponder has no trouble getting him the ball. Thats why Harvin leads the league in receptions and is top 5 in receiving yards.

3. Ponder needs to make better decisions and hit receivers not named Harvin. He needs to go through his reads, not lock on to one guy, and get rid of the ball in a timely manner, and also know when to get rid of the ball when there is no gain to be had.

All three of these play off of each other. Improving in any one area should help the other 2 areas look better.

[schmitty3]

Adrian Peterson seems to have no trouble running behind those same offensive linemen. Good QBs make quick decisions and don't need their offensive linemen to block for 10 seconds.

There is a huge difference between run and pass blocking. Ponder has been hit/hurried the third most in the NFL.

[LMITOUT]

Didn't the Vikings just use their first round draft pick on a supposed all-pro tackle?

I seem to recall in the off-season that folks here were saying that 'it made no sense to draft a QB if you don't have a line to protect him'.

Looks like they still have neither.

[schmitty3]

Don't think anyone expected Kalil to come in and suddenly the turn the whole offensive line around. The guy can only play one position at a time, and he's been doing a decent job at it.

[Jim Uran]

Yep I agree, Kalil is a stud!!

I wouldn't mind seeing Bowe over here!

[mrklean]

Ponder need linemen that can block and pick up the blitz. He doesn't have time to throw deep.

Rodgers has the same problem some how he can still get it down te field

[nofishfisherman]

Come on, that ones too easy to answer LIMTOUT. You're smarter than that, if you're going to keep on with the negativity lets at least see some effort and creativity with your criticism.

I will give you credit though, you've gone at least 3 posts without mentioning kool-aid.