schmitty3 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 No i do not think Childress is a good coach by anymeans, but if Favre wasnt playing absolutely terrible nothing would be being said. Ya i think Childress' play calling sucks, but Favre has been playing terrible. He has lost pretty much all of our loses because of stupid int's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 I would agree that Farve does force some passes. Many of those I also believe he makes as our O line is terrible and he has to either eat the ball or get ride of it. The other issue over last season is that with no time to throw, the recievers have no or less time to get open.That is not Farve's fault totally.We also forget that without Farve and the O line, we would not have gone as far as we did last season.I really feel that without the same O line to protect Farve and give him time to throw and for the recievers to get open, its very hard to complete passes and long ones to boot. We have Moss now but he will not be much of a threat as he cannot get downfield fast enough before the defense is all over Farve as our O line does not block well enough.It takes both and the O line is not there to do their job to give Farve and the recievers time for an accurate pass.last season was a totally different team.Let's wait until next Monday to see how well T junk does with no O line giving him time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmitty3 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I would agree that Farve does force some passes. Many of those I also believe he makes as our O line is terrible and he has to either eat the ball or get ride of it. The other issue over last season is that with no time to throw, the recievers have no or less time to get open.That is not Farve's fault totally.We also forget that without Farve and the O line, we would not have gone as far as we did last season.I really feel that without the same O line to protect Farve and give him time to throw and for the recievers to get open, its very hard to complete passes and long ones to boot. We have Moss now but he will not be much of a threat as he cannot get downfield fast enough before the defense is all over Farve as our O line does not block well enough.It takes both and the O line is not there to do their job to give Farve and the recievers time for an accurate pass.last season was a totally different team.Let's wait until next Monday to see how well T junk does with no O line giving him time. Your acting like he's getting sacked on every pass play. Its bad but not as bad as your making it out to be. If T-Jack plays next sunday he will have a good game. Much better than favre has been playing. mark my word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepworm Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 You are probably right, followed by one of the most miserable performances you have seen by a QB this season. That is Jackson's problem, looks like a star on game, and looks like they threw me in there the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuleShack Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 You guys are all assuming that favre is running the plays called by Chilly and Bevel...we all know that isn't the case 50% of the time. Chilly calls a play and it blows up, so next play favre calls his own and we gain yards Chilly is way too conservative to be a haad coach. Dont you want someone who goes for the throat with a winning attitude and not someone who waits to see what the other team does before making a move. And by the way, if the vikings were winning, it would still be Farve and not Chilly that was responsible for it, so he still should be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 You are correct Mule...Chilly is a reactive coach. Conservative to the hilt. I just don't get why he holds on to that philosophy when he has a stable full of thoroughbreds who can blow a game wide open instantly.He has stated openly that his philosophy is to have each game within reach in the 4th quarter...IMO, this will get you to a career .500 record...no matter the talent...which is where he is headed.He's been the wrong coach for this team...these players...and our window just may have quietly shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebs Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 funny how when you go to baseball thread you hear about how gardenheimer isn't responsible for the poor play by the team during playoffs and end of season but you come to this thread and it's all the coach's fault that the quarterback has been miserable this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 funny how when you go to baseball thread you hear about how gardenheimer isn't responsible for the poor play by the team during playoffs and end of season but you come to this thread and it's all the coach's fault that the quarterback has been miserable this year. There's more than just an issue of Favre's game this year. There's several Vikings players who need to pull their head out of their backside.For the upcoming Pats game, Childress needs to be "The Coach" and tell Favre he's sitting for a game so he can heal. He then needs to turn to that horrid offensive line and turpentine their arse so they pick up the pace. IMO the Twin Towers a.k.a. McKinnie and Loadholt aren't capable of stopping a preschooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Who's having a worse year...Favre, Allen, or Fat Pat? None are earning their $$$ right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antero Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 With apologies to John R Cash.......We're going to JacksonGoodbye thats all she wrote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Buck Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 What blew my mind is they had Favre in a 100% certain passing down on a bad wheel and they put him, maybe Brett did it himself I don't know, but put him under center, put him in the shotgun, it took him a month to do a 7 step drop. You fooled no one Chilly, GB was in nickel coverage, we were passing for sure, watch Tom Brady pick us apart in the shotgun this weekend or if they watch the game where Tom was 24-28 and a million yards in the dome against us a few years back, shotgun, can see the blitz easier and hit your hot read or if they back off you can let your WR's get open. Well T-Jack, lets see what you got. I'd personally let TJack run a bit of wild cat or something to mix things up a little, I hate gadget plays as well but lets get a little put into the play book once again, Cleveland didn't mind doing some things to beat the saints on the road, sure those things don't always work but just don't turn it over if it isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishersofmen Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Favre will play this weekend and he and Chili have kissed and made up. EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. -- Brett Favre is not ruling himself out of Sunday's game at New England despite two fractures in his left ankle. "I'm willing to give it a try," Favre said of trying to play. The Vikings quarterback will not practice Wednesday and probably won't until at least Friday. He says he has always had a "knack" for healing quickly and that gives him hope that he'll be back when Minnesota (2-4) plays the Patriots (5-1). "If I'm going to play, I want to play the whole game and give us a chance to win," he said Wednesday. Favre was injured in Sunday's loss to Green Bay. The 41-year-old Favre has a stress fracture in his ankle and an "avulsion" fracture in the heel bone, where a fragment has been torn away by a tendon or ligament. He doesn't need surgery. Favre also said Wednesday that he has spoken with coach Brad Childress to address the coach's critical comments about his performance Sunday night. "Emotions run high for players and coaches. I can't disagree with some of his comments. I'd be the first to tell you there's plays I should have made, plays I should have read differently," he said. He and Childress are on the same page now in that their intentions are to "win" but Favre said "that doesn't mean we have to agree all the time." Favre has started an NFL-record 291 consecutive games, 315 including the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Buck Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Jared Allen is worried about his relentless pursuit hunting show, he needs to relentlessly pursue the QB and he's failing at his position, put him on the other end, switch d-ends here and there, responsiblities are about the same, cmon coaches get it together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Buck Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'd sit J Allen until half, put him in fresh, he's getting wore down in quarter 1 and has no gas to get after the QB later, these 300+ monsters are leaning on him wearing him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrklean Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 maybe allen isnt playing good cause he cant overreact after he gets a sack anymore took all the fun out if it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Chilly is one of if not the worst coach in the league, he's costed us more games then any single player by far. You people mad at Favre can blame Chilly for drafting Junkson to be a part time lover on the side instead of a QB.Ofcourse Favre will "give it a try", that will keep his streak going.Jared needs his mullet.Fat Pat is old and lost it, I figured he'd be expendable this year with all our fresh young linemen.Gay Edwards who whines about wanting more money shouldn't even be on the field if he can only get a handful of sacks a season going 1 on 1 each and every snap through the whole season. I can't believe some of you guys fell for him "breaking out" because of his 1 good game last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrooks Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Fire Chilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Where can we get some Fire Chilly T-shirts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrooks Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuleShack Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 "I'm willing to give it a try," Favre said of trying to play. That does seem to sum up his play so far this year....I'm not sayin', i'm just sayin'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleFloyd Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Correct. Again when your QB spots the other team almost 10 points a game things will be difficult. I suppose all Favre's off field antics are Chili's fault as well. Point is Favre doesn't have a clear head right now. (understatement)If Brett had 15 TD's and 2 INT's right now not one peep would be said about Chili other than praise because we would be winning games. It amazes me what people expect from the offense considering the system Childress put in.His system is one that relies on timing between the Qb and the WR's that exploits gaps in the defense. The QB is throwing to a "Spot" rather than to a "Player". We have gone through a plethora of has been washed up QB's and one prospect that has not nor ever will develop into a playoff caliber QB. The WR position has also been a turnstile and how the coach expects this type of turnover to ever lead to any type of consistency or chemistry is beyond me. All of this takes time to develop and how Brett managed to do it last year is beyond me but it is proving to be an anomaly. When he was hired Childress in his opening speech stated how it all begins with the lines and that the main priority was discipline that would reduce penalties. Yet the OL is no better than it was in 2006 and we are actually committing more penalties on the OL than in his first season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I'd say our O-line is the worse it's ever been. Our D-line hasn't been playing much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonteepical Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Who's having a worse year...Favre, Allen, or Fat Pat? None are earning their $$$ right now. true, but there's only one who is giving it 110%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A R Johnson Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 No mullett + getting married = no sack's[PoorWordUsage] women they did it to us again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboni Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I'd say our O-line is the worse it's ever been. Our D-line hasn't been playing much better. Loadholt and McKinnie and the penalties they make. UGH. As big as they both are should not have to facemask guys or hold or false start to be effective. When Loadholt facemasked Matthews last sunday- did you guys see the size difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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