so haaad Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 One thing I don't get is why we haven't seen some of the younger talent getting more reps, especially lately during the implosion. Look at all the top teams like Ohio State, USC, Notre Dame, etc. Ohio State played Pryor significantly as a freshman and Barkley at USC is starting this year as a true freshman. If a freshman is a better option, then he should play. Just like Maroney, just like Greg Eslinger, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Gophers are 1st in the conference in penalties and penalty yards. 2nd to last in points scored and average a game (last is illinois, who we lost to). Last in total yards and average a game.I couldn't find the important defensive stats, but we are last in the conference in sack yards, last in total sacks, and 3rd to last in interceptions.Next week we are going to get destroyed by iowa! I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar to last year. And then we'll be off to the little caesars' pizza bowl to get beat down by either temple or central michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRiverRat Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Absolutely Garbage performance on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcutter Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Zepman-you can also include Iowa with Ferentz turning a program around. Hayden Fry left the Hawks with little talent.An Orange Bowl,, wins agst FLordia, LSU, competetive agst TExas in bowls. Much of this with less talent than Gophs get.Not a good wk-end for the Gophs in Iowa City.AS a Goph fan, I hate losing to the Hawks.42-10 Hawks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1310 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 My question is... how are we better off with Brewster than Mason?With Mason... we could hang in with the big boys because we could run the football and keep the ball away from the opposing team. Mason knew we couldn't stop anybody, so we had to do it that way. When Brewster was announced, I thought "who?" as did a lot of others. He says all the right things, but I can't say I believe in him AT ALL as a coach. He may be able to get across to kids and parents in their living rooms, but on the practice and game fields he doesn't have a clue in my opinion.Didn't we change offensive coordinators because he wanted a running game?If I remember right, wasn't Patterson from TCU one of the finalists.... how would we be with him and his Texas recruiting ties???I think they need to SEND HIM ON HIS WAY.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishin58 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Of the games I have been able to watch of the Gophers, the running game is non-existant. The rbs on the team could not find a hole if there life depended on it. I think everything has fell apart from there, they leaned way too much on Decker and there OC never had a gameplan besides get Decker the ball.Maybe he found the ol Randy Ratio on the floor of the dome before they moved to TCF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 People keep refering to barry alvarez and kirk ferentz for turning around wisconsin and iowa football. The difference with this is those 2 schools were in the dumps. Brewster took over a program that had winning seasons in 6 of it's last 7 years! Sure we were far from elite, but we still went to bowl games. Won a handful of the trophy games, and even upset a couple top 10 teams...and all of this while in the metro dome! Besides, alvarez and ferentz had WAY more experience going into their jobs than brewster did. So to try and compare brewster to those guys is an insult to them.Once again, I'll be cheering for the gophers to win. But I know that in the end it'll be better for the program if we get destroyed next week and by which ever mac team we play in the bowl game...because that should be what gets him fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishin58 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 If Stanzi is still out and he will be, Gophs will pull off the big upset. Weber throws for a couple and Marquis gets a couple running. (it would be nice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 They almost beat ohio state without stanzi! And we couldn't score a touchdown on south dakota state! What makes you think we'll score any on iowa's defense? Gophers are gonna make vandenburg look like a heisman candidate. Then at the postgame press conference we get to here once again from brewster how proud he is of his team, and how hard they fought, and how BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 They almost beat ohio state without stanzi! And we couldn't score a touchdown on south dakota state!Bingo. We keep hearing the excuses that the Gophers don't have Decker and their results are reflecting that. Well how about losing your starting QB and having to throw a freshmen to the wolves right at the end of the season?!!? Albeit Iowa didn't beat OSU, they sure as heck didn't fold like a cheap Men's Warehouse suit either. Why? Coaching. Losing your starting QB this deep into the season is a much bigger obstacle to overcome than losing a WR, no matter how good everyone thinks he is, and Iowa's staff worked a game plan to keep them in the game which they had no business winning, let alone taking it to OT, according to the "experts".Now with that "impressive" win over a D1-AA team everyone is giddy about a bowl bid? Seriously? The only bowl game the Gophers deserve is the "Our Family Frozen Bag of Mixed Vegetables Bowl", and even that is too high of stature for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Toilet Bowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snag Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The Iowa freshman QB was lucky. He had a pick six get called back due to an offsides, another horrible throw dropped by the defense and a key stone cops defensive play where his receiver caught it after two tips all on the last drive. Stanzi had been playing horrible, I wish he was available for the gophers matchup. He was throwin picks left and right before he got injured. I agree that when they lose, Brewster mentions how hard they play, I'm gonna hurl. They should charge the Minnesota students 5x as much for tickets and they might show up. $77 for season tickets is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Mason was a really good coach but he's no longer our coach because he rubbed alot of people the wrong way...including the boosters. Money talks!!Gophers defense will keep them in the game this weekend and if the offense can actually show up it'll be a good game. Iowa needed to block two field goals (one in the last seconds of the game) in the first game of the season against UNI. UNI is in the same conference as SDSU. The Jackrabbits have already beaten UNI by @ 12-14 points. Iowa should have been beat...and they were outplayed. UNI plays both Iowa and Iowa State very tough each time they play. It'll always be that way and it's no different when the Gophers play an SDSU or NDSU.Keep the faith...I'm calling for a Gopher upset!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I wouldn't want to be an apologist on that sinking ship. Sure seems like an awful lot of excuses...... I seem to have heard there were a few dropped balls that were easily catchable by a couple of the Iowa WR's in that game this weekend?? Must have been that "lucky" thing again, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Who cares if iowa only beat northern iowa by 1 point and had to rely on 2 blocked field goals to do it? It means nothing! Michigan lost to appalachian state 2 years ago but still beat the defending national champion florida gators in the capital one bowl later that year. This is a rivalry/trophy game that has major bowl implications for iowa, they are gonna be pumped and ready to kick our teeth in! Gophers on the other hand will not be ready and not show up, and just be happy and satisfied they are bowl eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Call me crazy but I do see the Win over SD as a recruiting benefit although a modest one. Hey Kid "SD ND KIDS" do you want play in this stadium and hang out with with about a MILLION hot chicks or NOT? Simple math and no-brainer really!If anybody thinks we'd be better off right now with Mason and the absolute mess he left us with I have some ocean front property in the Sahara desert for sale.I would like to see a major change in the offensive philosophy for starters.Carry On! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so haaad Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Anything can happen on any given Saturday. Upsets happen, teams will underachieve and yet others will overachieve. But usually the crazy stuff happens early in the year , i.e. Appalacian State vs Michigan or Northern Iowa vs Iowa games. Usually by November a team's offense is functioning more efficiently. The Gopher's offense still looks lost and has not shown improvement over the course of the season with the exception being the Michigan State game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so haaad Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 If anybody thinks we'd be better off right now with Mason and the absolute mess he left us with I have some ocean front property in the Sahara desert for sale. Mason really dug a hole at the end, but he also did some good things and elevated the program. He just couldn't elevate it higher than third/fourth in the Big Ten any year. Mason was able to find hidden talents like Eslinger, Setterstrom, Decker, Utecht, Spaeth and Barber. (I believe Maroney was a 4-star back so I won't include him.) The problem that I had with Mason is that he didn't get involved with the players during the games. You never saw him interact with his players while on the sidelines. He never picked his players up, got them motivated or chewed their backsides when it was needed. He was a dead fish. I think kids at the college level still need some rah-rah from their coach from time to teim, especially in today's era of instant gratification. Mason with a dash of Bill Cowher and another dash of Mike Tomlin would have been ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfloyd4ever Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Bowl eligible after sneaking past the jackrabbits is awful, but to proclaim yourself bowl eligible after that win is even worse. 1 win his first season and two trips to the insight bowl? Gimme a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Even though we beat michigan state I'm surprised the insight bowl will pick us over the spartans. I would imagine more people from michigan would go to that game than from minnesota, also the ratings might be a hair better. So I'm surprised by that move. Either way the gophers are going to get blown out, I'd just rather have it happen from a mac team than a big 12 team because it'll increase the chances of brewster getting fired. Maybe they'll change their minds though when we get destroyed by iowa and michigan state makes a game of it against penn state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 4/ GARBAGE TIME DENIED -- This is the way it is supposed to work: You suck the life out of a feisty but supposedly phsyically overmatched opponent from a lower football classification early. Then you toss the keys to the Maserati -- OK, to the jalopy -- to Gray, and let him play. A lot. Certainly much of the second half. Let him feel like a guy who might actually even be allowed to throw the ball once in a while. Yeah, it's garbage time, but right now this kid needs some reps. Let the coaches, players, and Gopher Nation take an extended look at what the future might hold. Never happened. Never came close to happening in four quarters. I'm fairly certain that even it wouldn't have happened in eight quarters.3/ QUESTIONS, BUT NO ANSWERS -- How does a smaller, slower, supposedly physically overmatched lower classification school manage to get an 84-yard kickoff return and a 49-yard punt return? How is this possible? And how is it possible that the same visiting team manages to yield fewer sacks than the home-standing Gophers? And why didn't the Gophers blitz quarterback, Thomas O'Brien, into oblivion? You trust your secondary coverage so little that you're worried about getting burned by the Jackrabbit wide receivers, and a redshirt freshman quarterback? 2/ BANKRUPTCY -- You ever have a chance to attend a Springsteen, U2 or Stones concert, then don't follow up, and later find out from a buddy who did go that you missed one of those tour-de-force moments that you will never get back, and will regret the rest of your life?Well, if you are one of thousands of Minnesota students who had tickets for Gophers-South Dakota State at the Bank, but decided to shut off the alarm clock, roll over and get a couple more hours sleep, maybe just stay in to protect your laptop, do not fret. Rest easy. You will not be haunted, or dogged, for the rest of your life by what you might have missed. Matter of fact, you will probably be congratulated by you chumbolone student buddies who did show up for this tour-de-flop, the most humiliating victory in Gophers history.And the few who did show up had the decency not to storm the field after the game.A lot of whining and consternation about the lack of participation by the student section, which might have been one-third full Saturday, at TCF Bank Stadium. Only way to stem the tide is indeed to make the kids feel like they are missing something more substantial than edging South Dakota State 16-13 mainly because your field goal kicker missed one fewer chip shot than theirs did. That ain't Boss, Bono or Mick. That's Carrot Top.1/ CLOSED-CIRCUIT TO MATURI -- Check out that offensive game plan. Check out an abominable 3-for-16 on third down. Check out 4.3 yards per pass. Check out having absolutely no capacity to deal with, or counteract, a Division 1-AA blitz. Check out ineligible man downfield and illegal formation on consecutive plays in the third quarter (wiping out gains), and two straight timeouts before the same play in the fourth. Check out having absolutely no ability to go for the jugular after getting the ball handed to your Gophers at the Jackrabbits' 11-yard line. Check out the horribly reasoned game plan in the first half a week ago. Your conclusion might be: New Offensive Coordinator Guy is in over his head.And you would be right...and missing the big picture.Can't keep firing coordinators, Joel. Three years into the new era, you're running out of scapegoats. At some point you have to start pointing the finger at the guy who keeps changing the coordinators.The guy who vowed that he would have his Gophers ready to play against SOUTH DAKOTA STATE, as if there was something bold and brash about the prediction, and then not even delivering on that pathetic pledge. The guy who apparently thinks good coaching is defined as calling a timeout to ice a field goal kicker at the end of the half. And when that's your guy's most influential coaching moment almost three full seasons into his reign, then your conclusion has to be: HE'S the guy who is in so far over his head he's Herve Villechaize with a phony southern twang.-Dan Barreiro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so haaad Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 None of the KFAN personalities follow Gopher football on a regular basis, so I have to laugh when the pretend to know what they are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 You're sure of that? You know what they do and do not follow? interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so haaad Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 KFAN mainly talks about the Vikes and Twins. It's rare they talk about Gopher football unless its negative and/or a pot shot. Ah the media...Anyways, it will be interesting to see how this team does the final two games. Recruiting could get a little tougher for "Mr. Brew-cruiter" if this team lays an egg in both games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave2 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 KFAN mainly talks about the Vikes and Twins. It's rare they talk about Gopher football unless its negative and/or a pot shot. Ah the media... I've lived in this state since 1980 and I have yet to see anything to talk about regarding this program that would not be negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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