Line advice

[Cecil]

I do same as you Tonka

[fishcast]

I don't know if I'm missing it or what but I have messed around with flouro and don't like it. Seems to be the only line I have random break offs with. And when I have messed around with it in the yard I noticed that when it stretches it doesn't spring back like mono does, it just gets longer. Wierd if you ask me. Any body else not using flouro like everybody else?

-I use 8lb xt with jigworms, and floating raps and other finnesse usually.

-jerkbaits hard and soft I use 14lb fireline with spinning tackle

-Drop shot with spinning I use 14lb fireline to 8lb xt cause I fish it around weeds a lot and it helps feeling and popping through weeds

-heavy cover 30lb master braid or heavier on casting rods

-texas rigs along weedlines usually 17lb xt with casting rods

-I hardly throw cranks, if I do its on 17lb xt or 14lb firline in weeds or If its stuff like shad raps 8lb xt

-dont remember the last time i threw a spinnerbait for bass, but with inline spinners I use 8lb xt usually

-don't hardly ever fish docks either, but I skip back into wood cover on rivers often and use 14lb fireline on spinning gear

RK- you mentioned you like triple fish x-rated copoly, and one of your reasons for it in the application was for its low stretch. I tried the stuff last year in 8lb and loved its thin diameter and it could cast for a mile, but it seemed extremely stretchy. I am used to 8lb xt, does x-rated have that much more stretch, or did I get a bad batch maybe?

How many of you guys put a fluoro leader on your braid when flipping heavy weeds???

I've messed around a descent amount with leaders back to back uni knotted to braid, and I think it works real well, but I only use it on spinning with like 6-12lb leaders. I don't trust slamming the hook set that hard with that many knots, and in real heavy cover I don't care what my line looks like. And with braid to leader, I always used to use fishing glue, and now use UV knot sense. The knot sense not only locks the knot in there but protects it from abrasion going through guides, weeds etc.

[Cecil]

Thats a lot to cover!

A few things to remember about flouro:

-You MUST wet line when cincing knot.

-It technically has similar stretch to mono, but just does not have the elasticicy of mono. Thus it feels and acts like it has less stretch.

-More sensitive to light than mono as far as damaging it.

-Doesn't handle as well on spinning reels.

All that being said, IMO the benefits far outwiegh the negatives. If you know how to use it and are willing to put up with a few things, it can be a big advantage.

[SledNeck]

doesnt the cold weather affect flouro

Ive never used it

[TonkaBass]

I was a hard core mono guy until my fishing partner started getting me to use the fluoro. Honestly I think it performs fine on a casting reel, on a spinning outfit you really have to baby it during your casts. Strength wise I like it. Knot strength is fine as long as you wet it as Cecil said. Flouro doesn't have that great of shock resistance though, so for hard pounding type fishing, I would recommend retieing more often than normal.

Overall, I like it a lot. My fav is regular Carbon Pro. I have tried many but that is my fav for many reasons.

[TonkaBass]

Sledneck, I have never seen an issue with fluoro in cold water. Fished with it many times in that fall and spring with water temps in the mid 40's. Also used it a lot this winter on the river, water temps near 60, but air temps in the upper 20's-mid 30's.

[olski]

I'm curious why more don't use co-poly in other than heavy cover situations?.....Good knot strenght,low stretch,small line diameter, good handling.....If I want more forgiveness, I just use a softer rod tip.

I think if yo take out," low stretch and small line diameter" the rest is OK.

[NorthernFarmer]

Sorry this is kind of off subject guys, but I have heard that fireline cuts guides and I just bought a new rod and I used fireline on my old rod but it had steel guides and this one doesnt. The new rod has Fuji guides, and i dont want to wreck it, but i do a lot of vertical jigging and fireline works good for me. So i was wondering if you guys know if there is any truth to it cutting ceramic guides?

[SledNeck]

I have rods with billions of casts with fireline and the fuji guides are 100% fine. I think its a myth.

[Deitz Dittrich]

Northern Farmer- Your fugi guides should be fine. Most guides should be fine, if you have a rod thats worth $30 or under, you may have problems.

[bemidjibasser]

If you have alconites or higher grade no problems at all with "super lines". I was at a rod building convention and watched a guy run a file through a big Fuji spinning guide for about 30 seconds. There wasn't a scratch in that alconite guide...

[TonkaBass]

Now if only they could build a fuji alconite guide that will stay in the ring we would have a winner! I guess thats why they make super glue

[SledNeck]

Now if only they could build a fuji alconite guide that will stay in the ring we would have a winner! I guess thats why they make super glue

OMG I HATE THAT....its those darn steel leaders that bust the end one out!

[bemidjibasser]

I have never had an alconite pop out on me... I have built with them for 6 or 7 years now and haven't had a problem with them. Which frame style was it that you guys had pop out? Or was it the tip?

[MurkyWaters]

While looking at everyone's comments, it seems that one consensus is that braid is best when dock fishing...Am I correct in this statement? Is this due to its abrasion resistance? Any other advantages in dock situations?

[Cecil]

it depends on the water and the types of docks you are fishing. There are some clearer lakes that you are not able to get away with braid.

[Deitz Dittrich]

I use braid for docks as I can then fish 30 lb test on a spinning reel, which is easier to skip.. and yes, braid is more abrasion resistant.

If in ultra clear water without a lot of weeds, I will normally just pitch mono/floro as Cecil states, but very few times do you see those conditions.

[Craigums]

Or you can tie a flouro leader onto your braid in clear lakes.

[TonkaBass]

bemidjibasser, I have noticed that the tip is most often the one that has problems poping out, but I think I've had is happen before on the middle guides. not sure what frame style they were, but I wanna say it was mostly Falcon Experts (cant complain too much because of the deal they gave on those rods).

[MurkyWaters]

What kind of braid do you use for dock fishing?

[Deitz Dittrich]

Power pro for me.

[slabbin@thecabin]

Spiderwire!

[TonkaBass]

powerpro

[champion198elite]

Powerpro only........didnt know there was any other braid.

[RiverBassGuy]

Powerpro 20lb or 30lb depending on the lake and the size of the reel. Deitz will you be working Cabela's this weekend? Sorry to sidetrack.