Little Story

[DuckDog]

My brother-in-law lives "up north" on property in which he hunts. A friend of his wife (single mother of 3 kids) was hurting financially; the single mothers asked my Brother in law to shoot him a deer (during season) and she paid for her own license.

So, as she sits in the house he goes hunting and harvested a doe. He put the doe in her truck and told her to register the deer.

The single mothers boyfriend hangs the deer from a tree and cuts it up.

Later on this guy has a run in with a CO who sub sequentially searches his girlfriends home. Well, of course there is deer meat in the freezer. The single mother tells the CO that my brother in law shot the deer for her and it was not registered.

The CO then goes to my brother in law and was very nice after he explains what and why he shot the deer for her. He was issued a ticket for illegal party hunting. The single mother was not given a ticket?

What are everyones thoughts

[pinkfloyd4ever]

So why didn't she register the deer? Easy to say now, but he should have put her in the truck too, drove down and had her register it. CO maybe could have let it slide, but all the same, I am sure they hear every type of sob story.

[sparcebag]

My thoughts? He was Ilegally taking a deer,She wasn't in the hunting party. She should have registered it,But he would yet be wrong.

[BeezeHound]

Thats a tough one, I'm surprised there was no ticket given for not registering the deer. Sounds like a case of bad luck more than anything, however the CO was not wrong in issuing the illegal party hunting ticket.

[DuckDog]

He accepted the ticket and understands why he received it. Course, he thinks she should have to pay for it.

[BeezeHound]

I don't know what area or anything, but if possible, he probably should have had her pay for a management or intensive harvest tag for himself, then he could have taken care of registering and gave her the deer with no issues

[ozzie]

I don't know what area or anything, but if possible, he probably should have had her pay for a management or intensive harvest tag for himself, then he could have taken care of registering and gave her the deer with no issues

I was thinking the same thing and it would have been cheaper for the mom that was having financial problems.

[kr8r.tom]

they both deserved the same ticket. this situation is exactly why party hunting should be illegal theres alot of nonhunters buying liscences and never hunting themselves and have "the brother inlaw" who likes to kill everything he see's,shoot them a deer.

[Eskimoman]

Definately deserves a ticket. As to who should pay? He was issued the ticket so I would say him, or they split it.

[DuckDog]

they both deserved the same ticket. this situation is exactly why party hunting should be illegal theres alot of nonhunters buying liscences and never hunting themselves and have "the brother inlaw" who likes to kill everything he see's,shoot them a deer.

He shot two deer - one monster bow hunting and a doe for her. Not everything he see's - great stereotype though.

[Odonata]

they both deserved the same ticket. this situation is exactly why party hunting should be illegal theres alot of nonhunters buying liscences and never hunting themselves and have "the brother inlaw" who likes to kill everything he see's,shoot them a deer.

I don't agree with the choices of the woman in this case. I also don't agree with the hunter's choice to fill her tag knowing she wasn't anywhere near the woods.

What ticket would/could she be given? She's only guilty of buying a license. That's not a crime. If the hunter had acted ethically, he never would have agreed to it. Single mom or not.

[dspohn]

How did he end up searching the home that seems kinda odd.

[kr8r.tom]

Originally Posted By: kr8r.tom

they both deserved the same ticket. this situation is exactly why party hunting should be illegal theres alot of nonhunters buying liscences and never hunting themselves and have "the brother inlaw" who likes to kill everything he see's,shoot them a deer.

I don't agree with the choices of the woman in this case. I also don't agree with the hunter's choice to fill her tag knowing she wasn't anywhere near the woods.

What ticket would/could she be given? She's only guilty of buying a license. That's not a crime. If the hunter had acted ethically, he never would have agreed to it. Single mom or not.

if he got a ticket for illegal party hunting and she has a liscence, why wouldn't she deserve the same ticket, if she's involved?

[96trigger]

Hard saying whats up when we don't know what kind af area he is in. I'm assuming it has to be intensive or managed as she did not apply for a doe license. Probably a managed and he didn't want to use his last tag on a deer for her, thats why she bought one for him to fill. Crappy scenario, if it were me, I would pay the fine, but wouldn't do it again.

I'd be more P-O'd at single mom's boyfriend for cutting it up with out registering it. And also, why did boyfriend have a run in with the CO, does he hunt or fish? Why didn't he try and get a deer for her. I'm pretty sure, that I would stay far away from that type of situation. And, not to make assumptions, but from your story, the boyfriend and single mom seem a little shady, at the least, irresponsible.

[kr8r.tom]

isn't a unregistered deer cut up in the freezer a poached deer?

[DuckDog]

I am not sure what action the boyfriend did in order to warrant a search of her residence.

They are in an intensive harvest area, I believe. My Brother in law has literally a hundred deer that come out into his alfalfa field at night to feed - so I assume that she asked him because it would be a sure thing (he would never let anyone hunt the area except family so the boyfriend would not have gotten permission to hunt).

No an unregistered deer is not a poached deer - its called an "unregistered deer" for enforcement purposes.

I talked to him last night and he paid the fine but was more mad that he would have that on his record (meaning, a stupid action on his part).

[96trigger]

He has got to be kicking himself for not buying an Intensive harvest tag for himself, shooting, and registering the deer, and then charging her the money for the tag. Then giving her the deer, and the registration tag.

He probably realizes it should have been handled differently. I don't feel to sorry for him because it would have been really easy, and cheaper for her, if he had done the above. I do feel that he was trying to do a nice thing.

[kingr]

Hindsight is 20/20. Should've registered the deer and that's it. Chalk it up as a learning experience. Pay the fine be [PoorWordUsage] at yourself for not registering it and move on.

[mrklean]

Not trying to be a jerk if she is in a hard spot and needs the meat but this is the kind of stuff that goes on all the time, my friends brothers moms sister buys a tag so he can shoot the deer. If its an intensive area shoot a deer if he has so many, register it you still have 4 other tags to use there you go its legal then. I dont feel bad for people who break the law even if it was for a good cause, you have to abid by it just like everyone else

[WaitForIt]

This is ridiculous.

There are already mechanisms in place to gift a deer to someone else lawfully - in fact my brother in law was involved in such a transaction this year. Very easy to understand, clearly spelled out in the regs. Whether or not she was hurting financially is a completely separate matter.

We busted some guys we knew for baiting deer once - when I tell people the story they actually get angry at me because "People are just different up north". Unbelievable.

They should have both gotten tagged - if you are buying a license and someone else is using it you should be held accountable.

[Double D]

Party hunting means all in the field at the same time. He should have given her an orange coat and had her wait in the truck. That's what the ticket was for.

Registration is a separate matter, and not what the ticket was given for.

There is another 2 cents.

DD

[honker23]

Besides being legal....using his own IH tag would have been cheaper for her to pay for. They didn't really think about this one.

I was also wondering how the CO could tell the venison in the freezer was "the" venison from an unregistered deer. Maybe it was from another brothers cousins sisters boyfriend that shot and registered the deer legally and gave a hungry woman some food.

[DuckDog]

The lady told the CO it was - Sorry do not know all of the details - I live about 250 miles away from them.