MJR Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 So who do we take, assuming we do not sign any other FA's.Here is who I think in the order they sb picked if avaialbleHave you guys looked at some of these D linemen coming out? They are huge.Mike Williams WRDerrick Johnson OLBTroy Williamson WRErasmus James DEDan Cody DETravis Johnson DTDavid Pollack DECarlos Rogers CBMarcus Spears DEShawne Merriman OLBKevin Burnett OLBJustin Tuck DEShaun Cody DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratosman Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 I doubt Williams will be available, Roddy White is the next best WR, good size, 6-1 with 4.4 speed with Williamson right there (fastest WR in the draft-4.38!!). If not LB Derrick Johnson might be a good pick if they want defense. THere are some great D linemen but I wonder if we arent set there, we are young enough with Williams, Udeze and Scott. I would think pick a WR and at #18 you can still get a pretty good pick.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzsaw Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Yes at #18 you can still get a very good pick... he's not on the above list, bu his name is Mark Clayton (WR) Oklahoma if we take a defensive player at #7 we will possibly go WR at #18 and this guy is supposed to be rock solid! If I had to guess I would say we take Mike Williams if he is available at #7 and if he's not then the LB stud out of the lonestar state followed up by Clayton at #18. I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted a big DT either like a Cody..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratosman Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 It's too early to tell for sure where the players beyond like #5 at this point or so will end up being taken at, I would like to see D.J from Texas at #7, but we are pretty young and inexperienced at LB already, but if we can't pick up a free agent or trade for one, that might be our best choice. Then at #18 like you said, there are alot of good recievers available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down to Earth Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Looking at some of the most updated mock drafts the names I'm seeing falling into the #7 spot for the Vikes are Edwards, WR; Williams, WR; and Cody, DL. Still plenty early though as I'm sure some trades will be made within the top 6 picks, especially if someone lower really wants to target someone specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
we are 'the leading edge' HSO Creators Rick Posted March 15, 2005 we are 'the leading edge' HSO Creators Share Posted March 15, 2005 I'd rather have Williamson-So. CA(WR) then Williams-USC (WR) anyway. A lot of good receivers in this draft. Unless we get Braylon Edwards we may want to go defense with #7, depending on the 1st 6 picks. Derrick Johnson-TX(LB) should be available at the #7 pick or Dan Cody-OK (DE) although a DE might be a wiser choice later. The Vikes are set-up to confuse most teams on what they will do in the draft. They're in a good position to either fill need, take the best player available or trade for value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Head Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 One thing is for sure. There will be some draft day surprises. There always are.I wouldn't mind seeing them pick up an offensive lineman with the 18th pick or in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piker Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I like Mike Williams (I have him #1 on my board . )at #7. Hopefully, the Vikings will have to choose betweeen Derrick Johnson, Mike Williams and Braylon Edwards.At #18 I'm really starting to get the hots for Thomas Davis, the hard hitting safety from Georgia. If Antrel Rolle or Erasmus James are here, that would make for some nice choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down to Earth Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 From reports I've been hearing since the latest combine is it looks like Davis will probably be converted to a LB in the pros. I think his stock has fallen a bit recently. Earlier I was seeing him projected as high as ten, but now it is getting lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermuskie Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 SI's mock draft board has the Vikes going for Mike Williams at our # 7 pick. They also have the Vikes using there #18 pick to grab DE, Erasmus James from Wisconsin (Sr. 6-4 263lbs)They have LB, Derrick Johnson, slipping down to the Lions at # 10. Here's a topic for debate...If Johnson is still there at #7 do them draft him over Williams, OR should they try to cut a deal giving up there 18th, and maybe a second round to get Johnson? I doubt the latter of the 2 would work because they would have to deal with either Arizona #8(need RB), Washington #9, or the Lions #10. And who knows if the Vikes are crafty enough to pull it off. But it sure would be fun if they could. Maybe give Bennett, the 18th pick, and a late rounder???Just throwing out some ideas, I like reading new thoughts on the Vikes!Have a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermuskie Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Just saw this info for you: nfldraftcountdown.com Is reporting the following: #5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mike Williams, WR, USC #7. Minnesota Vikings (f/OAK): Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan #12. San Diego Chargers (f/NYG): Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas If this is holding true, at that point the Vikes should make some phone calls and get Johnson. That would be HUGE! Here's what they are saying for the 2nd and 3rd rounds #49. Minnesota Vikings: Elton Brown, OG, Virginia (A big, physical mauler who would be a perfect choice to replace David Dixon at right guard.) #80. Minnesota Vikings: Dustin Colquitt, P, Tennessee (The team has been looking for long-term answer at this position for years and this is it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishyguy Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Johnson looks great but there is a reason he is falling. The original mock drafts had him going 3rd to Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down to Earth Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Here are the 3 most up to date Mocks I have looked at:DRAFT KING 3/15/20052005 NFL Mock Draft1. San Francisco 49ers - Alex Smith, QB, Utah2. Miami Dolphins - Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn3. Cleveland Browns - Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas4. Chicago Bears - Mike Williams, WR, USC5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Cadillac Williams, RB, Auburn6. Tennessee Titans - Adam "Pac Man" Jones, CB, West Virginia7. Minnesota Vikings - Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan8. Arizona Cardinals - Cedric Benson, RB, Texas9. Washington Redskins - Erasmus James, DE, Wisconsin10. Detroit Lions - Alex Barron, OT, Florida St.11. Dallas Cowboys - Troy Williamson, WR, South Carolina12. San Diego Chargers (from NY Giants) - Shawne Merriman, DE/OLB, Maryland13. Houston Texans - Marcus Spears, DE, LSU14. Carolina Panthers - Thomas Davis, OLB/S, Georgia15. Kansas City Chiefs - Antrel Rolle, CB, Miami16. New Orleans Saints - Travis Johnson, DT, Florida St.17. Cincinnati Bengals - Shaun Cody, DT/DE, USC18. Minnesota Vikings - Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma19. St. Louis Rams - Channing Crowder, ILB, Florida20. Dallas Cowboys (from Buffalo Bills) * - Aaron Rodgers, QB, Cal21. Jacksonville Jaguars - Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn22. Baltimore Ravens - Matt Roth, DE, Iowa23. Seattle Seahawks - Demarcus Ware, DE/OLB, Troy24. Green Bay Packers - David Pollack, DE, Georgia25. Denver Broncos - Heath Miller, TE, Virginia26. New York Jets - Dan Cody, DE/OLB, Oklahoma27. Atlanta Falcons - Brodney Pool, S, Oklahoma28. San Diego Chargers - Roddy White, WR, UAB29. Indianapolis Colts - Justin Miller, CB, Clemson30. Pittsburgh Steelers - Mark Clayton, WR, Oklahoma31. Philadelphia Eagles - Anttaj Hawthorne, DT, Wisconsin32. New England Patriots - Fabian Washington, CB, NebraskaFANTASY TAILGATE: 3/15/2005 1. San Fransisco 49ers - Aaron Rodgers, QB, 6'2, 210, California 2. Miami Dolphins - Ronnie Brown, RB, 6'0, 230, Auburn3. Cleveland Browns - Alex Smith, QB, 6'4, 212, Utah4. Chicago Bears - Braylon Edwards, WR, 6'3, 212, Michigan5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Cadillac Williams, RB, 5'10, 207, Auburn 6. Tennessee Titans - Adam Jones, CB, 5'11, 185, West Virginia7. Minnesota Vikings - Mike Williams, WR, 6'5, 230, USC8. Arizona Cardinals - Cedric Benson, RB, 5'10, 222, Texas 9. Washington Redskins - Antrel Rolle, CB, 6'1, 195, Miami 10. Detroit Lions - Derrick Johnson, LB, 6'3, 233, Texas11. Dallas Cowboys - Shawne Merriman, LB, 6’4, 245, Maryland12. San Diego Chargers - Marcus Spears, DE, 6'4, 295, LSU13. Houston Texans - Alex Barron, OT, 6'7, 311, FSU 14. Carolina Panthers - Heath Miller, TE, 6'5, 255, UVA 15. Kansas City Chiefs - Erasmus James, DE, 6'4, 260, Wisconsin16. New Orleans Saints - Thomas Davis, S, 6’1, 230, UGA 17. Cincinnati Bengals - Travis Johnson, DT, 6'4, 292, FSU18. Minnesota Vikings - Dan Cody, DE, 6'4, 265, Oklahoma19. St. Louis Rams - Jammal Brown, OT, 6'5, 313, Oklahoma 20. Dallas Cowboys - Troy Williamson, WR, 6'2, 200, SC21. Jacksonville Jaguars - Carlos Rogers, CB, 6’1, 194, Auburn 22. Baltimore Ravens - Matt Roth, DE, 6'3, 266, Iowa23. Seattle Seahawks - Shaun Cody, DT/DE, 6'4, 288, USC24. Green Bay Packers - Elton Brown, OG, 6'6, 338, Virginia 25. Denver Broncos - David Pollack, DE, 6'3, 261, UGA26. New York Jets - Khalif Barnes OT, 6’5, 310, Washington 27. Atlanta Falcons - Demarcus Ware, LB, 6''4, 235, Troy 28. San Diego Chargers - Mark Clayton, WR, 5'10, 188, Oklahoma 29. Indianapolis Colts - Anttaj Hawthorne, DT, 6'3, 305, Wisconsin 30. Pittsburgh Steelers - Fabian Washington, CB, 5-10½, 188, Nebraska 31. Philadelphia Eagles - Roddy White, WR, 6'1, 204, UAB 32. New England Patriots - Channing Crowder, LB, 6'3, 245, FloridaDRAFT GURU 3/15/20051. San Francisco - Braylon Edwards WR, Michigan 2. Miami - Ronnie Brown RB, Auburn 3. Cleveland - Aaron Rodgers* QB, California 4. Chicago - Cedric Benson RB, Texas 5. Tampa Bay - Carnell Williams RB, Auburn 6. Tennessee - Antrel Rolle CB, Miami 7. Minnesota (from Oakland) - Mike Williams* WR, USC 8. Arizona - Alex Smith* QB, Utah 9. Washington - Adam Jones* CB, West Virginia 10. Detroit - Derrick Johnnson OLB, Texas 11. Dallas - Shawne Merriman* LB, Maryland 12. San Diego (from NY) - Troy Williamson* WR, South Carolina 13. Houston - Alex Barron OT, Florida State 14. Carolina - Mark Clayton WR, Oklahoma 15. Kansas City - Carlos Rogers CB, Auburn 16. New Orleans - Thomas Davis* S/LB, Georgia17. Cincinnati - Travis Johnson DT, Florida State 18. Minnesota - Shaun Cody DE/DT, USC 19. St. Louis - Dan Cody DE, Oklahoma 20. Dallas (from Buffalo) - Jammal Brown OT, Oklahoma 21. Jacksonville - Erasmus James DE, Wisconsin 22. Baltimore - Roddy White WR, UAB 23. Seattle - Justin Miller* CB, Clemson 24. Green Bay - Brodney Pool* S, Oklahoma 25. Denver - Marcus Spears DE, LSU 26. NY Jets - Fabian Washington* CB, Nebraska 27. Atlanta - David Pollack DE, Georgia 28. San Diego - Demarcus Ware DE/LB, Troy 29. Indianapolis - Matt Roth DE, Iowa 30. Pittsburgh - Heath Miller* TE, Virginia 31. Philadelphia - Darryl Blackstock* LB, Virginia 32. New England - Channing Crowder* LB, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermuskie Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I guess every site is goingto be a bit different and none ofit really matters, only what they do on draft day! These mocks just give us something to talk about!The Mock draft I had posted was updated 3/16. (just so ya know it wasn't old) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down to Earth Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Cybermuskie,That is so true. The site I go to for Mock Drafts has 30+ sites for mock drafts. I try to visit the most currently updated ones on a regular basis just to get an idea of things. And you are right. Other than San Fran, which the consensus seems to be Aaron Rogers out of Cal everything else after that is a dump shoot as far is predicting. Though I've seen at least 1 draft that had the 49ers going WR. Everyone is different, but that is the fun in all of it. I'm sure things will change a lot between now and the pick of each team. Gotta love it uh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermuskie Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Down to Earth, I saw one off the wall mock today (out of Washington I think) that had the Vikes trading their 18th and 49th pick to Wash. for their 9th pick and getting a running back. So yeah, it's all up in the air. Go Vikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Head Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 There aren’t many things for certain in a draft, but I can guarantee that we won’t be trading up for a running back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
island guy Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Trade a running back or two. Ontario is one puff away from missing a year, Bennet is injury proneand may never regain form from his surgery, rumor has it Moore is a head case, Williams is no spring chicken. Get a good draft choice with a trade and maybe draft a RB with #7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Head Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 I think running back is very solid. Each on has the issues that Island Guy mentioned, but considering we have a full stable I think we are fine there. We need a star wide receiver much more than a running back. It would be nice to have a quality veteran linebacker to mix in with the youth there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermuskie Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 About the running back thing guys, I had just said that one off the wall site had their mock draft saying that. It wasn't a fact or anything. But really why not try to get rid of Smith or Bennett, and get a young horse that can punish people. Try to get another pick, what the heck. They aren't that impressive. If we stay with what we have we have to worry about drugs and injuries to worry about. Beside without a big play WR the defense can zone in on our running backs, and are they that good? By the 4th game you may be wishing they would have traded.Just my .02 cents run with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Head Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I just mentioned in my last post that it would be nice to have a quality veteran linebaker to mix in with our youth. BAM.........here comes Cower!! Wow, what should I wish for now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSenarighi Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Could you please wish for Backherup to quit rambling on incoherently about how the Lions are going to win the NFC North? Man, that would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_walleye Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 If the vikings waste a their pick at #7 on a running back someone should be slapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishyguy Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 The speculation I heard this morning is that if one of the stud runners is available they will take him and then trade Bennett to Ariz. for Boldin to solve the receiver issue. I could live with that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawdog Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 They better have that deal with AZ done when they make the pick if that's what they are thinking about doing. I don't think I'd still do it. We don't need to carry three-four good backs do we??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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