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Unless you are hunting some prime ground and know there are other higher quality targets in the area I would give him an arrow or bullet! Or if you have 10 150's on the wall, then I might hold out too but that is a nice looking buck either way.

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I am fortunate enough to have access to some pretty prime ground. We have a group of us that still hunt my grandparents farm. It is around a thousand acres. I am also going on the assumption that velvet is going to make him look bigger than he is. I am guessing he is around 135" and 4 1/2 years old. We have a bunch of pictures from last year of this same deer. He made a real nice jump this year. If he was to make it to 5 1/2, hopefully he could make the same type of jump. Like I said, don't think I would be able to hold off though as he would be my second biggest buck to date.

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100% agree it is a nice deer and if I had him standing with a decent shot, I would have a heck of a time passing on him, and I would also say that it is probably one of the top 3 or 4 deer that we have around. Unfortunately, we seem to have the problem of letting them get this size, then they wander off the farm during the rut while they are chasing and the neighbors shoot them. We are the only ones around that are practicing QDM...the neighbors practice the other QDM (quantity rather than quality).

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100% agree it is a nice deer and if I had him standing with a decent shot, I would have a heck of a time passing on him, and I would also say that it is probably one of the top 3 or 4 deer that we have around. Unfortunately, we seem to have the problem of letting them get this size, then they wander off the farm during the rut while they are chasing and the neighbors shoot them. We are the only ones around that are practicing QDM...the neighbors practice the other QDM (quantity rather than quality).
If you can't hold a couple of blossoming bucks over to maturity on 1,000 acres, there are things that you are doing to negatively impact the herd. It is inevitable that a few bucks will wander, but if you are practicing true QDM (which includes habitat improvement), you should be able to hold mature deer on your land long enough to evade the neighbors. We've been able to do it on far less land than 1,000 acres in the Bemidji area.
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I actually hunt around Thief River Falls, and we plant food plots and do quite a bit of habitat stuff. But, as I stated before, when you have every neighbor around you shooting everything that has a rack, it makes it tough. We usually get one or two that we harvest every year that are that 135-140 range, but last year we had one that scored 150 that we had over a hundred pics of that was shot the first evening on a neighbors property. They disperse into areas with less bucks as there is less competition. If they have a choice of staying on our land and competing with a bunch of bucks or going to the neighbors land where there are no bucks, where do you think they are going to go? With the number of deer that we have around (contrary to the scarcity of deer that our DNR says we have), seems as if there is always a hot doe or one that is just about in estrus that they are chasing. Obviously they don't know or care what boundaries are. It is just the nature of the game, I guess. Just is frustration on my part. Goes back to it being hard to shoot a big buck if you shoot all the small ones.

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I actually hunt around Thief River Falls, and we plant food plots and do quite a bit of habitat stuff. But, as I stated before, when you have every neighbor around you shooting everything that has a rack, it makes it tough. We usually get one or two that we harvest every year that are that 135-140 range, but last year we had one that scored 150 that we had over a hundred pics of that was shot the first evening on a neighbors property. They disperse into areas with less bucks as there is less competition. If they have a choice of staying on our land and competing with a bunch of bucks or going to the neighbors land where there are no bucks, where do you think they are going to go? With the number of deer that we have around (contrary to the scarcity of deer that our DNR says we have), seems as if there is always a hot doe or one that is just about in estrus that they are chasing. Obviously they don't know or care what boundaries are. It is just the nature of the game, I guess. Just is frustration on my part. Goes back to it being hard to shoot a big buck if you shoot all the small ones.
Like I said, you'll inevitably risk losing a few to neighbors, but the most dominant, mature bucks aren't going to leave unless pulled away by a hot doe. On a 1,000 acres (if contiguous), you should be lucky enough to hold a couple of the best deer on the land. This is usually done with sanctuary areas. If you're hunting most of the 1,000 acres, its more difficult, as there are no areas that the deer feel truly safe.

In the end, hunt for yourself. I can't tell you how many little bucks I've passed that ended up on someone's meat pole. But that's okay, I gave them a chance. If you shoot a small buck, you know it will never get big. At least you hunt an area sufficient in size where your actions can have a larger impact. In the end, it is supposed to be fun, don't let others get in the way of that.

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I actually hunt around Thief River Falls, and we plant food plots and do quite a bit of habitat stuff. But, as I stated before, when you have every neighbor around you shooting everything that has a rack, it makes it tough. We usually get one or two that we harvest every year that are that 135-140 range, but last year we had one that scored 150 that we had over a hundred pics of that was shot the first evening on a neighbors property. They disperse into areas with less bucks as there is less competition. If they have a choice of staying on our land and competing with a bunch of bucks or going to the neighbors land where there are no bucks, where do you think they are going to go? With the number of deer that we have around (contrary to the scarcity of deer that our DNR says we have), seems as if there is always a hot doe or one that is just about in estrus that they are chasing. Obviously they don't know or care what boundaries are. It is just the nature of the game, I guess. Just is frustration on my part. Goes back to it being hard to shoot a big buck if you shoot all the small ones.

Your going to lose buck to the neighbors, just a fact of life. Best you can do is keep improving your property, control your pressure because that might be pushing them next door and most important try and get your tag on them bow season before the rifles come out. wink

If the neighbors do tag a few nice buck it might not be a bad thing, I know a few guys who have seen the light after they shot a nice one, it can change ones perspective.

Also remmeber if could be worse, I hunt public land and 3-4 of us let them go and the other 50-60 hunters in the are mow them down. I'm just happy to have 2-3 mature bucks to hunt in the 5-6 square miles I call home during the rut.

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