Next years QB?

[goblueM]

its bad when lions fans are telling you there's no reason for optimism with your QBs

[zepman]

Webb should not be holding a clipboard...he should be being groomed as an "all purpose" offensive weapon.

Returning kicks/punts, wild cat qb, line him up in the backfield...in the slot...and out wide. Make him a defensive coordinators nitemare.

Whatever they do, they need to get the ball in his hands!

[klecker]

That would be a perfect fit for him.

To have these guys as the option for under center every snap this year would be a nightmare. With the current situation of the NFL. No way could an offense be effectively installed. They need someone with a little experience and knowledge of the game, to help speed up that process.

The Vikings are for sure one team that will be severely hurt by the mess going on right now.

[Scott K]

I still think the Viking need to get a young QB in here, such as Vince Young, J Marcus Russel, or even T Jackson, and have an honest competition with Webb, and Boamer winner starts. We dont need a grampa in here, that is set in his ways, we need someone that is thriving, and willing to fight for a starting job. Whoever we bring in, I just want an open competition, I dont want the keys handed over to them.

I am sure you guys think I am nuts, but in the current situation, a 1 yr contract with T-Jackson, I think would give us are best chance.

[zepman]

You're right...I think you're nuts.

Cut ties with TJack and NEVER look back. This team needs to move on from that decision.

[Rippinlip]

You're right...I think you're nuts.

Cut ties with TJack and NEVER look back. This team needs to move on from that decision.

+1, need to draft one!!!! Period!!

[Scott K]

I dont argue with the drafting part. But with the lockouts going on, there more then likely wont be a summer training camp for the NEW QB to learn the game plans, or get the timing down with the receivers. So basically you are saying we should draft a QB, then have him not have any training camp, possibly no preseason games, then start his first passes to the Wide receivers on game 1 of the season? Which is a very likely possibility, that we wont have training camp, or even any preseason games this year.

Thats what I was getting at, I think then, T Jack would be our best option. He knows the receivers, he knows a lot of the play book, and the system. At least the previous system. And with the lock out, I think the team would be insane to make drastic changes to the system without a training camp. I dislike Jackson as much as all of you, but without a training camp, to expect a rookie QB to come in and run the offense, without any practice at all, is insane.

[JBMasterAngler]

Brett Favre!

[zepman]

I dont argue with the drafting part. But with the lockouts going on, there more then likely wont be a summer training camp for the NEW QB to learn the game plans, or get the timing down with the receivers. So basically you are saying we should draft a QB, then have him not have any training camp, possibly no preseason games, then start his first passes to the Wide receivers on game 1 of the season? Which is a very likely possibility, that we wont have training camp, or even any preseason games this year.

Thats what I was getting at, I think then, T Jack would be our best option. He knows the receivers, he knows a lot of the play book, and the system. At least the previous system. And with the lock out, I think the team would be insane to make drastic changes to the system without a training camp. I dislike Jackson as much as all of you, but without a training camp, to expect a rookie QB to come in and run the offense, without any practice at all, is insane.

You must have forgot...we have a new head coach and a new offensive coordinator. TJack has no more understanding of our new offense than Ryan Mallet does.

Webb is said to be throwing to the Vikes receivers now...on their own. TJack has zero relevance with this team anymore.

[Superduty]

Look for the vikes to grab a free agent quarterback, even if they draft a rookie. I don't think the Wilf's are ready to throw in the towell on this group on offense. Running backs have short careers, by the time a rookie QB can contribute, Peterson may be too old or too injured to be the force he is now. The present owners have never been afraid to throw money at free agents. (Favre, Allen, Berrian(OH MY!), Hutchinson)

[soldoncass]

I think the 3 qbs mentioned (Young, Russel, T Jack) were/are all losers. NO reason to believe they could do anything, even IF they had all the normal practices. The teams with lots of talent, set rosters,and coaching systems are going to LIKE it when nobody else can get their system together. Then at the last minute they'll probably have a change of heart and settle. If that happens, I don't see a free agency even happening this year. I think Webb and Bomar are going to have to mature quickly. At least they have a few games/ practices under their belt.

We need to BEEF UP OUR DEFENSE, so the other teams can't score. I'm not even sure draftees can be signed until a cba in reached ,can they?

[klecker]

You are right they can not be signed. If drafted they could run off and play for the UFL.

Young, Russel, t-jack?????? Might be better off signing Palmer or Mcnabb.

[Scott K]

You are right they can not be signed. If drafted they could run off and play for the UFL.

Young, Russel, t-jack?????? Might be better off signing Palmer or Mcnabb.

But what would we have to give up to get Palmer? I dont theink he is available, I believe he will be riding the bench this season, because they said they will not trade him. McNabb, I think he will be cut, and free to sign with who he pleases, but again, do we want to get into grampa league again? If thats the case, play Webb, or Bomar. Let the youngens battle it out, and get some experience.

[PurpleFloyd]

I read somewhere that Jeff George is available and willing to give it another go.

[goblueM]

Palmer is not going to ride the bench, if they won't trade him he is going to retire

[pikestabber]

I read somewhere that Jeff George is available and willing to give it another go.

Ha! Warren Moon is ready, too...

[soldoncass]

"Let the younguns battle it out"

That is my vote....Webb and Bomar battle it out for starts. Either one has more experience than any rookie they could draft...and probably as much talent also. Assuming a cba finally gets signed....the rookie/s (we'll draft at least one)can get a year of pro speed exposure, before joining the competition. This year could be a bust.....or the young guys talent could show through, and we'll know WHAT we have. The old Chilli guys need to step up also.....or say "good bye". ( thinking Mckinny,safety spot,Berian, etc) I personally don't think some of them have what it takes, but we'll see.

[FISHINGURU]

Young, Russel,Junkson? Is this the morning funnies?

[zepman]

Frazier has said repeatedly that ideally, he'd like to bring in 2 more qb's to the picture. One they draft and the other an experienced guy.

I can also see them bringing in Weber as an UDFA if he is not drafted.

Lot's of questions left to be answered...and one thing is clear, the Vikings organization doesn't feel like either Webb or Bohmar are ready to be starting q-backs next year.

Frazier has waited a LONG time for his shot at being a head coach...he'll try and do everything possible to get the q-back he wants. It'll sure be interesting to see how this plays out over the next month....

[Scott K]

Young, Russel,Junkson? Is this the morning funnies?

They arent my ideal QB's, but they are the realistic ones! What is your propasal, and what do you think we are going to have to give up to get him?

[soldoncass]

Weber...I'm afraid they may go UDFA on him also. I hope they pick Devlin or McElroy in a late round instead. They both seem better to me than Weber.

I understand how the coaches don't think Webb and Bomar aren't ready to start...at this moment. I feel the same about every one of the draft eligible guys, right now. IF the cba is settled...and we can get an experienced QB from someone somehow.....how much will it COST US? how long will it set our young guys back if they don't play? talented young guys get better by PLAYING, NOT by sitting.On the other hand, say we trade for a 3-4 year guy.....it will cost us too many players, and our young Qbs will never get a chance to prove they can be good. Think of all the #2 QBs that never had a chance....til #1 was injured, then #1 couldn't get his job back, because #2 showed he was good. That is what I am shooting for.....I think Webb and Bomar need playing time, and we can't afford to give up anything to get an experienced "also-ran". Draft play-makers on Defense, and improve a few O spots, and lets goooooooooooooooo.

I, however, am NOT getting paid to decide these things.

[zepman]

I'm going to predict the Vikes try and get Kolb at all costs. I could then see them going after a guy like Dalton in the 2nd or McElroy in the 4th.

The writing is on the wall in this division...we need a good young q-back or it may be a very long decade of being a Vikings fan.

[soldoncass]

I HOPE you are wrong, but......to me that would guarantee a "very long decade of being a Vikings fan".

They have a lot of decisions to make in the month. I think I'm GLAD I'm NOT getting paid to make those decisions..... Baseball players are considered successful if they hit .300, I wonder how success is rated for the NFL draft?

[Scott K]

I'm going to predict the Vikes try and get Kolb at all costs. I could then see them going after a guy like Dalton in the 2nd or McElroy in the 4th.

The writing is on the wall in this division...we need a good young q-back or it may be a very long decade of being a Vikings fan.

If the Vikings go after Kolb, we will be giving up a 1st, and more then likely a 4th. So that will leave us with a second, a fifth, and a couple 6ths and 7ths. Doesnt sound so good to me. The Vikings have many holes to fill, throwing multiple picks at someone this year wont help the team.

[zepman]

Kolb isn't worth what you are saying...the Eagles will never get that for him.

We would be fools to give up that much for someone as unproven as him.