Which is more rare-- no hitter or Mauer last night??

[Mudcutter]

Heard an interesting stat on the radio--

Since the dead ball era (1920), their have been 177 no hitters thrown in the Majors (not including postseason). In the same time period,, their have been only 44 players to go at least 5 for 5 with 7 or more RBI's. Mauer is an ELITE company,, 4 times more so than a no-no.

[B. Amish]

and i think it's like his 4th game with 5 hits... i wonder what the record is for most career 5 hit games?

[Mudcutter]

from ELias Sports-

Ty Cobb did it 14 times

Willie Keller and Pete Rose 10 apiece.

[Mudcutter]

and the record for most 5+ hits in single season is 4 by

Keeler, Musial , Gwynn, Cobb and Ichiro.

[DonBo]

And I believe (other than Ichiro) all those guys are in the HOF with the glareing exception of Pete Rose. What's up with that?

[Mudcutter]

Pete will be in the HOF in a few years. HE was at the REDS game about a week ago sitting in the front row,, and the entire stadium game him a long standing ovation. The dude did things your not supposed to do--- after he played--- when he played,, he was the best I've ever seen for hustle and being a gamer.

[Big Tom]

And rarest of all a manager that pulls the 5-5 guy when he has a chance for 6-6 or the cycle.

[DonBo]

And rarest of all a manager that pulls the 5-5 guy when he has a chance for 6-6 or the cycle.

When you're up by 18 points you don't rub the other teams nose in it. IMO, Mauer should have been pulled before his last at bat. The game's not (supposed to be) about individual stats.

[PierBridge]

True FT.... tough to find a manager that smart who would put class and the team in front of an insignificant meaningless stat like a cycle or a 6 hit game in 19-1 blow-out.

Tough to watch Garza throw that gem last night for sure.

[Scott K]

What we have said if Mauer got injured in that last at bat, everyone woul be saying, why was he even in there!

[Harmonica Bear]

Exactly...

In fact I'm kind of surprised some of our guys weren't dancing to some chin music in the last couple innings. Might see some of that tonight. (or maybe they did, I was kind of dozing off there at the end).

[ozzie]

no chin music last night and why should there have been.....they weren't trying to overdue it but they played ball the way it should and they just kept hitting the ball and it kept finding open areas in the field. they weren't trying to score alot of runs rather than they just happen to score alot of runs!!

[B. Amish]

one of our guys did see one inside after a hr - can't remember who. it was followed promptly by a visit to the mound. maybe the pitcher had his own agenda and the pitching coach wanted to make sure things didn't get out of hand.

[SledNeck]

True FT.... tough to find a manager that smart who would put class and the team in front of an insignificant meaningless stat like a cycle or a 6 hit game in 19-1 blow-out.

Tough to watch Garza throw that gem last night for sure.

Was it you or zamboni who proclaimed the cycle the greatest feat in baseball last year when cuddy did it?

[Mudcutter]

a good stat guy here,, but I would like to know the times a guy has been 5 for 5 and been pulled for a PH.(run that one by Elias) Not many have been 6 for 6,, and the last Twin was Puckett. Class move, thou. and I do agree partly that Gardy should have had #7 outta the game earlier,, but we fans pick and choose after the fact.

[PierBridge]

Not that it would have anything to do with this sitiation but no that was Z.

Glad you remembered it though~!

[zamboni]

I didn't say the cycle was the greatest feat in baseball, but you think it's a worthless stat- which it isn't.

God forbid Delmon ever hits one, we won't hear the end of it for 3 years.

BTW- there have been more no-no's pitched than cycles hit in ML history, so if it is so stupid, worthless and easy- why doesn't it happen very often?

[soldoncass]

That kind of comparison bothers me. Seems like apples to oranges. 18 players per game compared to 2 pitchers per game.......hmmmmm

[SledNeck]

I didn't say the cycle was the greatest feat in baseball, but you think it's a worthless stat- which it isn't.

God forbid Delmon ever hits one, we won't hear the end of it for 3 years.

BTW- there have been more no-no's pitched than cycles hit in ML history, so if it is so stupid, worthless and easy- why doesn't it happen very often?

Id rather Delmon has a 2 HR 2 double night which while not more rare is still a better night than hitting for the cycle

[zamboni]

Thats a proposterous statement nominee. ^^^^^^^

[harvey lee]

The stats say the cycle by far. Maybe 4-1.