Referee's Bad Call Effects Vikes-Saints Game

[LMITOUT]

Of the 158 overtime games in the past decade, the receiving team won in overtime 37% of the time when the coin flip loser never touched the ball.

Appears to me that the odds were in the Vikings favor.

[james_walleye]

The odds favored the vikings getting the ball once, it didnt favor them winning the game.

[LMITOUT]

How about we just give the Vikings the ball first on the opponents 20 yard line. Would that make you happy? Or, maybe they should just change the rule so that if a game involving the Vikings goes to OT, they automatically win because if they don't win they must have been screwed some how, some way because it surely can't be due to their own performance.

[james_walleye]

You assume everyone just fired these thoughts up in the past week. I've always hated the NFL OT rule and I hate it worse when someones season ends because of it. Its a joke that a coinflip could possibly end any teams season. Put the 2 teams on an even playing field, how tough is it??

Go check national message boards, the majority of fans, fans of every team, think its a joke!

[LMITOUT]

I'm not saying the current rules are perfect either, but the fact is those are the rules they're playing by and they know it going in (Well except for McNabb who didn't know a game could end in a tie ).

If the Saints defense is supposed to take it's turn on the field, then the Viking's defense should have held the Saints offense. They had their chance and failed. Game over.

[Steve Foss]

Go check national message boards, the majority of fans, fans of every team, think its a joke!

They usually only think it's a joke after their team loses.

I'm just saying.

[slipbobbin]

Exactly. We wouldnt even be having this conversation if the toss would have went the other way and the vikings would have won. Would we?

[Steve Foss]

Exactly. We wouldnt even be having this conversation if the toss would have went the other way and the vikings would have won. Would we?

Sure you would. You Queens fans would still have been ripping your team apart even if they won. It's just how some of you so-called fans roll.

But hey, NEXT SEASON is a whole new self-roast opp!

[bobbymalone]

cant believe this is still being discussed.

If "ifs" and "ands" were pots and pans, there'd be lots of work for Brett Favres hands.

Saints scored more points. Game over.

[zamboni]

Of the 158 overtime games in the past decade, the receiving team won in overtime 37% of the time when the coin flip loser never touched the ball.

Appears to me that the odds were in the Vikings favor.

Not the point, an entire quarter or period should be played out, period. I have ALWAYS felt that way, not just after this game.

[hugonian1]

Bottom line- Tails never Fails

[JBMasterAngler]

I like college OT rules better.

[OIF_Veteran_21B]

Why didn't the Vikings go for two at the end of the game(Same thing they should have done against the Bears on the MNF game)? Then they wouldn't have had to depend on their call of heads or tails on a coin flip. 2.5 yards from the endzone, and a defensive stop for a trip to the Super Bowl. Farve to Shiancoe, for 2 points, and the win.

The previous week go for it on a 4th and 3 inside the opponents twenty, when we're up by 24, at home, with 2 minutes in the game; and not only do we go for it, we throw a pass; but, we won't go for a 2-point conversion, on the road, in the 4th quarter to take the lead in the NFC Championship. We got outcoached, not a big surprise with Childress. Never should have brought the guys to the sideline on the timeout before the 12th man call. I mean, we have Brett Farve for our quarterback. Send the players out we need for the play, who do you think they would rather listen to, Farve or Childress (or one of his Asst Coaches)?

We handed the game to the Saints on a silver platter. It should have never came down to the officials' calls. If we have a game like we played almost the whole season where we don't turn it over we win plain and simple.

[james_walleye]

Originally Posted By: james_walleye

Go check national message boards, the majority of fans, fans of every team, think its a joke!

They usually only think it's a joke after their team loses.

I'm just saying.

Reread my post, fans of all teams are discussing this issue on all kinds of websites outside of MN and the common thread is something needs to change. So no its not just after their team loses....

[PierBridge]

They sure did, and that makes it good, doesn't it? Reviews aren't always right, either. How many times did they replay it? At least 20, and that ball NEVER crossed the first down plane. Just because you are a Packers fan, or some other team, doesn't make it right, does it?

Actually the one view not the off kilter mis-leading view you are going on showed the ball dead on the first down line before it was dislodged. Once they saw that view you could understand why there was no chance of reversal and also why no one in the media made a stink of it.

In your defense the replay they showed the most did look like it came out earlier but the other one which they showed only once the ball looked like it was a first down.

[PierBridge]

Anyone who thinks the games are fixed really needs to get out more.

Yes we had some questionable calls go against and FOR us but to suggest the NFL fixed the game is well....PREPOSTEROUS!

If you actually look at the replay instead of through the frustration glasses of the loss. You'll see Mckinnie tried to hold and then he ended up pushing the Saints linemen which resulted in him falling down and grasping at Favres leg.. I know thats the supposed Brady lame rule and the same rule/play all of you complainers didn't like when Allen was called for it.

My guess is, the referee, along with having to watch 10 300 pound players at break neck spped on a play that took less then four seconds was paying closer attention to the other Saints linemen who knocked the living snot out of Favre's upper body.

I'm on my 10th time going through this game and I'm up to 11 uncalled holding penalty's on the Vikes with 7 of them clear `as day.

Everybody grieves differently so go ahead and blame the NFL and the Referee's if you like.

[DTro]

You can find a holding call on every single play, it’s all subjective.

I wouldn’t say the NFL is “fixed”, but I DO believe there are some backroom shenanigans that go on with the betting line, and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if a couple NFL refs weren’t involved.

Pretty sure we had a NBA official involved not too long ago

Also remember that it was the refs that stepped forward to say they screwed up. So they are admitting they were wrong. You know it must be pretty bad if they do that.

[DTro]

oh and yes the OT rules need an overhaul

[LMITOUT]

Also remember that it was the refs that stepped forward to say they screwed up. So they are admitting they were wrong. You know it must be pretty bad if they do that.

That is done for every game that is played. All calls are reviewed by the league the following week, not just games involving over-sensitive Viking fans.

[zepman]

That's true but the point of the thread is that the refs admitted to blowing the call on the high-low play which resulted in an interception. Had the call been made, it would have definately changed the flow of the game.

When it happens in an NFC Championship game...I think people have the right to be a little over-sensitive...at least for awhile.

[Catfish_Nuggets]

Bottom line...Vikes didn't deserve to win with all those turnovers. The refs did their usual job and the Vikes gave it to the Saints. The Vikes would have matched up a lot better with the Colts too...bummer.

[walleyes12]

Bottom line...Vikes didn't deserve to win with all those turnovers. The refs did their usual job and the Vikes gave it to the Saints. The Vikes would have matched up a lot better with the Colts too...bummer.

I agree with your post! With all those turnovers the Vikes had no reason to win the game, But our Defence stepped up, and kept us in the game. At the end the Vikes were battling turnovers and the refs. If the vikes would of just held onto the ball, we wouldnt be having the conversation.