Wanton waste

[vister]

i hear ya on that one. regardless of size, we try to take what we can get off the animal. and since i make my own brats, summer sausage, etc, i'll take every trimming i can get, other than some of the neck. i'm not too fussy about the neck, if its on a rutting buck that is!

[96trigger]

Vister, I do know this, there would definitely be some words before he even thought about hunting with me next year. Having a neighbor do it is one thing, having someone in your group do it, thats another. It reflects poorly on your whole group, I can see where you would be ticked. I would have a hard time letting him hunt with me next year.

[vister]

he doesnt hunt with us, more or less right next to us.

[96trigger]

Well, you have that going for you. Still a crappy situation.

[pulleye16]

I love how on the other thread everyone but one or two people said to turn them in and would even turn their own child or mother in...this seems like the answers are more logical/realistic in this thread, I think the person who answered this question second (musky buck) really made people think before they spoke! It's a very difficult situation if you are a good friend or family member of someone that broke the law (or wanton)and need to confront them. I think expressing yourself and sharing your values as a hunter should hopefully get through to them and hopefully things shape up. If it's a chronic thing or even "once-in-awhile" things, it does need to be brought up to someone with authority! Nobody likes illegal or unethic hunters but addressing it to someone that is a good friend can been tough AND actions DO need to be done, either by you or authority figure so things like this don't happen again!

[Wanderer]

Vister,

I feel your pain.

Someone close to me REALLY wanted a deer and didn't get one a few years ago so I gave him one of the several I took. Well a week later I asked him if he had cut it up yet and he said he had it mostly done. That right there was fishy.

Two weeks later I swung by and the garage door was accidently open and I saw the deer hanging full with the hide on yet. I didn't say anything to him though I'm sure he knew I saw it.

In short, that's the last venison he will ever get from me. I have no idea what ever became of that deer but each year since I've taken multiple deer and he's been dry, he's mentioned he would accept donations. It falls on deaf ears.

You just learn things about some people and start dealing with them in a different way. Maybe you don't want to write him off as a good friend but you should do what I did not and let him know you didn't think that was cool at all. It might make him think at least.

Sometimes people get in over their head and don't know how to deal with the situation but just can't admit it. Let him know if it happens that way next year that you WANT to help him process it. Maybe you'll teach him the skills he needs to follow through next time.

I didn't do that with my experience because the person has proven to me time and again to be a lousy do it yourselfer. I just stay away.

Just some thoughts.

[vister]

i hear ya there. i'm sure your buddy would gladly have taken the deer if he got it in 1 lb packages of freezer paper! some people just want the easy way out. they dont want to have to do any work, even when half of it is already done!!

[HNTNBUX]

I would never turn in a friend or relative for a game violation. But that does not mean it would not affect our relationship in some way if it was persistant. Everyone makes mistakes and that is not enough to give up a friend.

[CANOPY SAM]

Well said, HNTNBUX! I guess some people just don't like to get their hands dirty. That doesn't make them a criminal.

A stern talkin' to would be in order.

[John478]

I personally would not turn him in but I would voice my displeasure.

Even if you did turn him in I doubt a CO would do much about it if his intent (although not that good) was to get it butchered and it simply went bad on him faster then he thought.

A few years back when it was in the 60s and 70s the first week of the firearms season. Some butchers where throwing a lot of deer out if people did not get them in in a reasonable amount of time. I didn’t hear of any one getting in trouble for that.

[BeezeHound]

It would be tough for me to turn in a very good friend or relative. It would have to be a very serious crime, most likely involving humans, for me to do that. Like everyone else has mentioned, I would express my displeasure and let him know it better not happen again. And as always I would offer up a helping hand. I have been in this situation before but it involved fish instead of deer. Very sad to see, but I let him know I was p!ssed and to my knowledge it hasn't happened again.

[Neighbor_guy]

That big-ol beast with the double thoat patches?!?

Did it get caped?

If someone I knew shot a deer like that, and left it to hang and rot. I'd call. If they had it caped out, and then left it to rot, I'd call twice.

I was tempted to quote your picture post and instert it here, but I want to make sure it was the right deer and not toss someone under the bus that should be tossed under the train.

If I did this, or someone I know did it, a call would be made or expected. That is bad buisness, and worse karma. If you shoot a deer you have to be prepated to take care of it. Or have made arangements for someone else to take it off your hands.

[InTheNorthwoods]

say, inthenorthwoods, you may remember seeing pics of this deer. i believed you loved the double white patch on the throat of the buck.

Sad thing about that is, he could have sold that cape to a taxidermist and easily covered the cost of having the deer processed.

A good cape is worth decent money, a good cape with beautiful markings like that is worth even more!

I don't envy your situation, in the end it comes down to making the decision you think is right based on the circumstances only you know.

[LOTWSvirgin]

Heck if it was that douvle throat patch buck I would of paid for the processing for that cape seriously

[zackthehunter]

how could someone wastre a deer meat. i love venison. if anyone has leftover deer meet give it to me my mom makes great steak and my bro makes wicked jerky to die for

[gatorhunter]

I would never turn in a friend or relative for a game violation. But that does not mean it would not affect our relationship in some way if it was persistant. Everyone makes mistakes and that is not enough to give up a friend.

Anyone "friend or relative" who does not have enough respect for my ethics or morals is a friend or relative that I don't want. I'm a Game Warden and if friends or relatives who know what I do for a living still go out and break game laws, then they deserve to get ripped and don't deserve my friendship!

[thatoneguy]

The first time, I'd have a little chat about why it's illegal/stupid/unethical to do that, and let them know the next time I will call the C.O.

Some people have said they wouldn't do it if it was a close friend or family. I would do it ESPECIALLY if it was someone close to me. I don't want to be associated with a poacher or unethical sportsman in any way, and I would make that very clear to them.

That [PoorWordUsage] is unacceptable and 100% avoidable.

[Musky Buck]

Vister you are darned if you do and darned if you don't. The worst part is these are adults I'm assuming and there are options out there so animals don't go to waste. I'm guessing you have amish in your area Vister and boy if I drive by and hand them a couple geese it's Christmas in October. Venison program is barely floating but it was another option. G.L

[vister]

musky, you are right about amish in the area! we're surrounded by them! however, i recently learned someone tipped off the DNR about the situation. of which, i also learned that the dnr was explained the situation, and they said they weren't going to do anything about it! So, now i wonder, anyone that knows anything, were the local CO's lazy, or is it just not that big of a deal that 2 mature bucks lay to rot in a guys garage, while the cape and antlers are in the freezer to get mounted. i think im more upset now than ever!

[SledNeck]

The better option IMO is not to snitch on people cause then its 100% guarenteed no one will burn your house down or poison your dog in retaliation

[zepman]

Kind of sounds like you're speaking from experience Sled....??

[Neighbor_guy]

If the cape and antlers are in the freezer then I would be Cheezed off as well.

Sad to say, but if it were one of the guys I hunt or fish with and they played the "...I cant aford to pay to have it done..." but he can afford to pay a taxadermist. ! !

That would be the end of that. Fool me once, To H*!! With You!!!

Seems to me you and your neighbors have done some nice things with the deer herd in your area. Now to find one of them is only in it for the mounts with completed disregard and respect for the animal involved. Sounds like someones priorities are out of whack.

No way to see the honor in a mount of an animal like that with the knowlage that the ENTIRE DEER!!! and the one hanging next to it went to rot.

And I am the type of guy who would let him know it every time it came up.

"Hey, I got my mount back!"

... "Realy, you mean the one you cut the antlers off and left to rot in the garage?"...

Thousands of people in MN had one of the worst seasons in years as far as deer sightings and oprotunities go. To find out that some people care more about the trophy than deer is self and just let it go to waste is pathetic. Simply Pathetic.

[jkcmj]

I have a land owner near by that shoots any deer that get within range of his house and lets them run off and die. Disgusts me, but I have not turned him in. He has hundreds of acres and lets my brother and I shed hunt each year. We get many sheds off his land, and hate to lose a good spot. It would be pretty obvious who turned him in, as we are the only ones with permission to be on the land. We usually find several or more dead in the wood line near his house. Some nice size shedded bucks to. Very unfortunate.

He looks at them like they were rats in his corn bin, and does not consider them worth eating. I have made a point of telling him how much I enjoy eating deer and talk about the value for hunting etc to try to curb his attitude, but to no avail.

Many are disgusted with all the raccoon and squirrels we destroy each year. We are not allowed to, according to the liscense we have for pest control, to take the fur or meat. They must be thrown out. I have never understood why, seems such a waste, especially in the fall when the hides are prime on coon.

[SledNeck]

Kind of sounds like you're speaking from experience Sled....??

No.

[96trigger]

Yeah, it would fry me to no end if the guy said he couldn't afford to have the meat processed but was getting 4-500 dollar head mount done. I would be real temtped to call in TIP if that were the case.

Are the deer gone yet?