Driftless Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Ted takes over the packers. Follow the list.1. Lets our two starting guards go in free agency2. Hires McCarthy over Marriucci3. Does not get Moss in trade for a lousy 4th round pick(Two times)Moss caught 25 TDs year we were one game away fromSuper Bowl4. Drafts Harrell (currently on IR)5. Drafts Hawk (bench warmer)6. Have been millions under salary cap since his arrival7. Has NOT signed any big name free agents8. Shove a Pro Bowl Caliber QB out the door.9. Have an excellent QB now but an AWFUL Offensive Line10. Has not drafted a single Offensive Lineman in first round11. Was obviously an Alpha Male thing going on there. Will TT EVER be put in Hall Of Fame? Maybe the Hall Of SHAME.Can we please put TT on waivers now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofishfisherman Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 #8 I don't fault him for.Favre retired and they had a solid QB waiting his turn. When he came crawling back they had already turned the keys over to their QB of the future. There was no turning back at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishin58 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 The viking fairweather johny boat has been picking people up left and right. I am sure there is no shame with you jumping aboard too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftless Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 would you want to return to a GM that basicallysays No to you every time you open your mouth?He saw the handwriting on the wall.Look at our Defensive Backs. Couple of the best in the league.Believe one is 11 year vet and other 13.Will TT go there as pick in draft and ignore Oline?I bet he sits on his hands and doesn't draft either or gets some old washed up reject.In 5 years you will see the ESPN top 10You Can't Blame so and so.Top one will say.Can't Blame Favre for leaving packers look at what this moron Thompson did to support him.Favre will be in the Hall Of Fame some day and Thompson the Hall Of Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJH Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Ted takes over the packers. Follow the list.1. Lets our two starting guards go in free agency2. Hires McCarthy over Marriucci3. Does not get Moss in trade for a lousy 4th round pick(Two times)Moss caught 25 TDs year we were one game away fromSuper Bowl4. Drafts Harrell (currently on IR)5. Drafts Hawk (bench warmer)6. Have been millions under salary cap since his arrival7. Has NOT signed any big name free agents8. Shove a Pro Bowl Caliber QB out the door.9. Have an excellent QB now but an AWFUL Offensive Line10. Has not drafted a single Offensive Lineman in first round11. Was obviously an Alpha Male thing going on there. Will TT EVER be put in Hall Of Fame? Maybe the Hall Of SHAME.Can we please put TT on waivers now? As a Packers fan, some of these are laughable even to me:1) Both were old, banged up and overpaid. Both are now RETIRED!2) Wow, Mariucci really proved his metal turning Detroit around. He was only good in SF with Steve Young as QB throwing to Terrell Owens and Rice.3) I agree with this one. That was dumb. (Even he admits that now)4) You can't blame somebody that got hurt, that's always a risk, its FOOTBALL.5) EVERYBODY would have taken Hawk at that spot. He's not great, but he isn't terrible either. He's a run stuffer and that's about it.6) Agree with this too. Should have picked up some solid free agents to compliment the youth.7) WRONG: Picket and Woodson, Chillar to a lesser extent. Woodson is one of the best corners in the league and a perennial Pro Bowler. Picket and Chillar are quality starting calliber.8) Both parties played a hand in this. There are three sides to every story. If Favre were as committed to the Packers those last few seasons as he is to the Vikes, things would be different. Besides they would be worse this year with Favre standing in the pocket with this offensive line. Thank god Rogers has some scrambling ability or he would be dead already.9) Couldn't agree more!10) That's true, but he has drafted in the second. Colledge, Spitz, Sitton are solid young players and . Its the tackles where we are dreadful. I agree he needs to do more in Free Agency, but he has done some good things as well: Woodson, ARod, Jennings, Collins, Colledge, Mathews, Raji, Grant for a year, Bigby for a year, etc...... That's four pro bowlers he's brought in to compliment the guys there already (Kampment, Harris, Barnett, Driver, et...) and some good young players to develop.I don't mind people bashing TT/coaching when you lose, as its their job to win. But at least be honest/fair about it. They are 4-3. The Vikes are a better team this year with two ELITE (Allen & Petersen) players and alot of good ones (Hutchinson, Winfield, Williams, Berrian, Rice, Harvin, McKinnie). Hopefully the Pack can go on a run as the year goes on and make something happen such as the Giants and Cards have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 HEY DON'T FORGET FAVRE...HE'S STILL ELITE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboni Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Rodgers is NOT excellent. Please get over this fact, you just got done watching an excellent QB for 16 years!!!! He isn't Marino, Elway, or Favre caliber. He is more like a Simms or Theisman- if he ever gets to the Super Bowl it isn't all on him, it is because of the cast of characters playing with him. Will he ever be a HOF'er??? NO WAY.You are right about one thing though- that O line is horrendous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJH Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 He's not ELITE, but he has a shot to get there someday. Remember, he's only playing in his second season. He's leading the league in QB rating:1. Aaron Rodgers, GNB 110.42. Peyton Manning, IND 109.33. Drew Brees, NO 106.94. Brett Favre, MIN 1065. Donovan McNabb, PHI 103.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 He's not ELITE, but he has a shot to get there someday. Remember, he's only playing in his second season. He's leading the league in QB rating: 1. Aaron Rodgers, GNB 110.4 2. Peyton Manning, IND 109.3 3. Drew Brees, NO 106.9 4. Brett Favre, MIN 106 5. Donovan McNabb, PHI 103.2 This really cracks me up. Rodgers at the top of the QB ratings in this list. If you ask me this number is artificially inflated due in part to the past two weeks competition that GB had prior to the Vikes on Sunday. if Rodgers was that good of a QB, he wouldn't be taking the sack after he rolls out of the pocket. At least T-Jack would get rid of the ball before he goes down. Maybe we can sell Jackson off to GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 This really cracks me up. Rodgers at the top of the QB ratings in this list. If you ask me this number is artificially inflated due in part to the past two weeks competition that GB had prior to the Vikes on Sunday. Funny, his rating was 108.5 yesterday. I guess the Vikings defense is artificially inflated too. To be honest I don't take QB ratings to mean all that much, but if you look at his TD's, INTs, and yardage he's on pace to beat last year's numbers which were, contrary to some blind people on this message board, near the top of the list when the year was over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave S Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: LEP7MM This really cracks me up. Rodgers at the top of the QB ratings in this list. If you ask me this number is artificially inflated due in part to the past two weeks competition that GB had prior to the Vikes on Sunday. Funny, his rating was 108.5 yesterday. I guess the Vikings defense is artificially inflated too. Typical come back from a closet Packer fan. Did you even watch the game to see the changes in the Vikes Defense beginning in the 3rd QTR? Not sure why Fraser thinks it's necessary to change it up only to go back to the way they started. If the Vikes would've played an entire 4 quarters like the first 2 yesterday, Rodger's rating would've been far lower. I don't blame the Vikes D. I'd blame Fraser more than the D-Line. But that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSKY18 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Hey...i don't care if he has a perfect passer rating. What really matters is Wins and Losses. He can throw for a gajillion yards, but if they don't win the game what difference does it make. 108.5 rating yesterday......WOW!!! THEY STILL LOST BY 12 POINTS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 The point is that he can't play every position on the field, but he can still be a good QB. I don't think he was the one that gave up 38 points yesterday, but I'm sure there are some on here that will somehow blame him for that too and he never threw an interception! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott M Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Watching Thompson and the Packers spend money reminds me of the Red McCombs years...very little free agent spending and an aftermath of mediocre teams to poor and talent-crippled teams. Free agency is a tool to use to improve your team. Not everyone has to spend like the Vikings or Redskins, for example, because spending that money can be good and bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJH Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 How you blame ARod for losing the game when the Defense/ST gave up 38 points is one of the most illogical, homer opinions I have ever heard in my life."what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrappiesNCats Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 An "excellent" quarterback doesn't have a career 10-13 record as a starter.Rodgers is a stat stuffer who consistently holds the ball too long (not good with that swiss cheese line) and he freezes up when it matters most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboni Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 His QB rating doesn't mean a hill of beans once you factor in he gets to play the Lions twice a year. All the other QBs listed on that list have much better inner division foes and IMO outshine Rodgers. You Packer fans need to get over it- he is an average QB, nothing more. I would rather have Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboni Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 and he never threw an interception! He was too busy getting sacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
we are 'the leading edge' HSO Creators Rick Posted November 3, 2009 we are 'the leading edge' HSO Creators Share Posted November 3, 2009 A QB who is constantlty holding the ball forever with the likes of Jennings and Driver on the field, getting sacked and creating so many obvious passing situations is bound to get a few more yards than normal as well as losing more often. I'd say that's an average QB. If he ever starts winning then we can talk. Now Favre..there's a GOOD QB Thanks TT and Coach McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRiverRat Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: LMITOUT and he never threw an interception! He was too busy getting sacked BOX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Box? Have you even watched a GB game? If you can answer yes to that, then have you seen their poor excuse for an offensive line? Because if you have then you'll realize what you said is just the same old Viking fan fluff that holds no water.Box that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRiverRat Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Box? Have you even watched a GB game? If you can answer yes to that, then have you seen their poor excuse for an offensive line?Box that. He can't throw interceptions when he is flat on his back or running for his life.Hard to tell they have an offensive line with all the purple jerseys in the backfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Rodgers is a good quarterback...wish the Vikes had him for the next 10 years. It doesn't excuse him from being a dolt though. Half of the sacks are on him and Rick is right, he sets himself up to inflate his stats by being so hesitant to throw the ball. He creates his own 2nd/3rd and long situations.There are ways to play around a bad offensive line. How about try a 3 or 5 step drop and actually THROW THE BALL before the receiver comes out of his break. He's good but not as good as some would like to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboni Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Rodgers passes that he completes are made to WIDE OPEN recievers. Period. Favre throws into triple coverage and can still complete it. Aside from the 3 knuckleheaded Packers players trying to look like the 3 Stooges in coverage, he has done it a few other times this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 rodgers is a real good qb imo....he's just in the position that he has to fill favres shoes and he can't...favre won them tons of game that they really shouldn't have won...how many times did he get so lucky it was sick?...kinda like what he's been doin for us now woooooooooooooooooo.are jennings, driver, ect, even that good? or was favre making them that good? i know rodgers is good enough to be on some of my fantasy teams and he puts up monster numbers every week...one of the best qb's forsure....to bad they have no oline and have horrible coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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