gregg52 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 after the 48 has finished 6th now half the field will ride tillthe end then what more wrecks at the end with everybody doing the..time to go thing theres nothing bout racin here that why you have normal 20th place cars wining luck at the last minute !!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Todays race was exactly why some many people wanna when the watch Nascar... driving in circles for two hrs in a single file line... eliminating the bump draft through the corners.. and placing further restrictions on a restrictor plate race... BORING !! +1 to neighbor_guy.. what a JOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double D Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 This race really only needs to be 20 laps long. DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juneau4 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Why bother to have a race--give everyone 2 laps of qualifying, take their times and put them in order. It would be more interesting than the actual race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy airjer W Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Every track has its draw. Apparently enough people like this track and this type of racing to have the grandstands full and the race broadcast on network t.v.! There are a few races throughout the year that I make every effort to watch. Whether or not I have been disappointed in the past or think think I will be disappointed in the present doesn't matter. They are my favorite races to watch. Maybe because I remember them (every once and a while) being on network TV when I was a kid. Maybe because I like the history of the track. Maybe because I appreciate the talent needed to just make it to the finish of the race. Talledaga happens to be one of those tracks. To be honest with you I could care less if they told them they had to race in reverse, keep a car length in between each position, only pit on even laps, and the crew chief/driver switched places. It is what it is! I may be lame but I still enjoyed the race for many reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 I saw many empty seats today at the track. But, NASCAR is losing the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyT Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Smaller plate, slower speeds, and two cars in different wrecks upside down spinning or flipping. Better do some more wind tunnel work boys. There is always that pucker factor the last third of the race because you know it's going to happen.Perhaps they could draw a number between one and twenty, then pick cars numbers by lottery. The ones chosen are crushed by monster trucks before the race, thereby thinning the field making the pack smaller. It would be about as random and the drivers wouldn't be in the cars while they were being destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregg52 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 i noticed alot of seats there yesterday who knows if its the economy or the racin probably alittle of both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy airjer W Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 There have been some empty seats at all the races! Some tracks a lot more some a lot less. I would say Telledaga had a lot less than some of the other tracks this year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF#13 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'm with you Airjer, I enjoy the super speedway races. For me it's the super speedways and the short tracks that are the most fun in NASCAR anymore. I agree the single file ring-around-the-rosey thing tends to be boring, but then again that's basically what you have for the entire race at about all the other tracks now anyhow. At least at Daytona and Talladega the last 20 laps of the race are exciting as heck, and you don't see the winner lead about every lap and win by 7 seconds like we've seen at 75% of the other tracks this season.4 of the 36 races are at super speedway tracks. In my opinion, NASCAR needs to fix the quality of racing at the mid-sized tracks before they worry too much about these tracks. We have complained all season about the quality / excitement of about all of the races the past few years, and it seems to be getting worse instead of better. Now, am I saying there are not some things that could or should be done differently for the super speedway races, no. They could use changes to, but I can say that about just about every race / track on the cup schedule. NASCAR is killing the quality of racing across board, and do not seem to care one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunrevir Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Looks like from the looks of things they are going to change a few things on the COT car for next year so we may/may not see some better racing at all venues. Gets pretty old watching guys go in circles for three hours and then wreck when it comes to crunch time(sic). I'd like to see more racing and less fender banging but that is what it comes down to on the plate tracks and now they can't even bump in the corners. All I see with the superspeedways is that at sometime in the future there will be another driver killed and that isn't any good for anyone but the person selling memorabilia at the track. I am not a fan when things go round and round in a single file untill 25 to go. I don't want anyone to lose a favorite driver to a crash just because they want the cars to run evenly on a large track like T-dega or D-tona. I love the racing but NASCAR is taking alot away from the teams to even the field. Now look back to when a guy could lap the field 2-3 times and that wasn't much fun to watch either but now it is as bad or worse. Just my opinion but these guys need to race one another and not the money. Unfortunately, this is what it is coming down to. The powers that be, need to find a better way to limit the competition and yet let them race and make it affordable for teams to run. Go or park teams are at a distinct disadvantage versus the multi car teams with millions in the bank. It is getting harder to watch and hopefully they will get the hint. This same scenario played out in snowmobile racing back in the mid to late seventies and now it is mostly factory sponsered teams.Tunrevir~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregg52 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 start and park thats kinda what the 48 did except for the 10 laps thats not racin on superspeedways or any other track i guess maybe some will say thats smart thing to do what happens when they all start doing it how slow can they go theres just no way those speedways are racin the way it is right now you would be better off to start and park..get the money save the race car for all 4 races some one said that race only needs to be 20 lars that true might as well have 25 lap feature race and call it a day save everybody time and money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Lets see, sit in the back and cruise around the track and then with a few to go, lets see the big crash and who is lucky enough to get through the mess to finish well.What a total joke. Thats not racing and never will be.I never missed a race for years and this season, I watched 1 in total. Thats the one I went to in Bristol. MNay times I didn't even turn the race on.For me the COT cars are a joke. I would rather watch turtles race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy airjer W Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I don't think there is an easy answer for any of the complaints. It is what it is. Even if they where to go all out at the super speedways the big one will inevitably happen. Somebody will loose an engine, blow a tire and the caution will be out. There all bunched up and like DW says, cautions breed cautions. As far as no bumping in the corners, why would you? I think that was a good call by NASCAR! The drivers are professionals and should have some common sense not to do it.. AT ANY RACE! Anybody can spin a guy out, you should have to work and prove you are the better driver/car to get the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 As far as no bumping in the corners, why would you? I think that was a good call by NASCAR! The drivers are professionals and should have some common sense not to do it.. AT ANY RACE! Anybody can spin a guy out, you should have to work and prove you are the better driver/car to get the position. Why would you? Because some can, and do it quite effectively at that. The problem is the drafting wannabees who can't handle their cars. If you watch the "good ones" they can lock bumpers and go all the way around the track without a bobble. Half the reason NASCAR made the no bumpdraft rule in the corners is because they saw what happened last time when two cars hooked up.....they flat checked out. Once again, they are trying to make it "fair" (Geez, I hate that word) for the ones who can't handle a car. Some may say it's to make it more competitive and I say hogwash, their rules go in the complete opposite direction of that. All they've done is penalized those who know how to drive. I guess you could say they're "spreading the wealth" and we all know how well that's worked out so far.And why do they bumpdraft? How else can you pass at those tracks???!!!!?!?!?! They've put the cars in an identical aerodynamic and mechanical box and the only variable left is the driver!! But, with these rules they're taking that variable away as well so what you're left with is a pile of 40 cars going around in a circle which leads to the inevitable "big one". NASCAR has created this monster, not the drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Old man Earnhardt would quit racing if he had to race under all the new rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhjr Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I don't know if he'd have gone as far as that, but he definitely would not have been quiet about it. Not too many are speaking out about it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crothmeier Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 thats why people call it NAPcar. Watch the first 10 laps, take a nap, watch the last 25 laps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Isn't that the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juneau4 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong. I do think that NASCAR originated from the old Bootleggers in the 30's and 40's, So why have all the rules? Let the drivers put out the cars or the owners and race. I wonder If the moonshiners had restrictor plates? How about the people trying to catch them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippinlip Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I use to never mis a race and could probably recap the race the next day better than SPEED channel. Not any more, NASCAR needs help bad.Races are boring, drivers are now zombies, everything is nicey nice.When someone gets into it on the track, the use to run down to the other pit stall and let someone know about it, not any more, they all just say "its a racing thing". Liar Liar.Qualifying sucks, why have 35 cars locked into the field?Give everyone 1 provisional(sp) and thats it. You NEED to qualify to race, period.Imagine if JJ would miss in qualifying during the Chase race?I agree with someone earlier stated that the cookie cutter tracks need to be fixed. Chicago, Texas, Kansas, California are races that in all reality comes down to 2-3 cars after about 15 laps, how boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Seemed like it really started changing after they began being publicly traded. What year was that again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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