Favre

[Jim Uran]

I'm not going to sort through 55 pages of material, but should Favre really have a timetable? not necessarily for signing, but for playing. Do we really need him to be ready against the Browns/Lions? Or is it more a fact that his ego doesn't want some silly streak to end?

And yes I think it has more to do with stroking his large ego!

[BrianLucky13]

Would you have a large ego if you were the best QB to ever play the game???

[Wadinator]

Would you have a large ego if you were the best QB to ever play the game???

WHOOOAAA! Hold on there bud.

In the top 10? Yeah.

Top 5? Maybe.

But THE #1 QB in NFL history?

No friggin way.

But I admire your unending devotion to the guy, no doubt.

[SledNeck]

if youre a wild card you only have to win 3 to make it to the superbowl

DOH!

[pinkfloyd4ever]

Originally Posted By: CrappiesNCats

I'm not going to sort through 55 pages of material, but should Favre really have a timetable? not necessarily for signing, but for playing. Do we really need him to be ready against the Browns/Lions? Or is it more a fact that his ego doesn't want some silly streak to end?

And yes I think it has more to do with stroking his large ego!

Yes, ego on his streak

[Jim Uran]

Originally Posted By: BrianLucky13

Would you have a large ego if you were the best QB to ever play the game???

WHOOOAAA! Hold on there bud.

In the top 10? Yeah.

Top 5? Maybe.

But THE #1 QB in NFL history?

No friggin way.

But I admire your unending devotion to the guy, no doubt.

I don't think he was the best of all time either. Top 5 for sure, but his ego should be gone now that he's old and he isn't even in the top 5 of todays QB's.

[fishyguy]

Would you have a large ego if you were the best QB to ever play the game???

I think most NFL players have very large egos but most don't need that constant attention to reaffirm it. There is also a difference between having a ego about your ability and a ego that says, "because of my ability I am above others". Unfortunately, I feel Farve falls inot that last category of becoming all important over all others. That is when ego becomes a issue.

[Badger]

I hope they win a ring someday, just to shut up the Packer fans. How many rings the Brewers got? Maybe we should pile that on, then just not shut up about it, maybe you will get sick of it like us. The Pack had a huge, and I mean HUGE run of bad years. In 24 years, from 1968 to 1991 they had only 5 winning seasons, and only made the playoffs twice. The Vikings have never had such a bad run.

Tied with Buffalo for the worst record in Super Bowl history (0-4) is a bad run! LOL The Vikings also have the worst playoff loss in NFL history. Giants 41 Vikings 0 Keep hoping....

[pinkfloyd4ever]

C'mon badger, Denny told us that the Giants were tapping into our headsets and stealing our plays! Blatant cheaters. Plus Red said that he saw Gary Anderson's kick go through the uprights so we got jipped on that one too. Not to mention the push off against the cowboys, total conspiracy

[Steve Foss]

Realistically the packers only have 1 championship in most fans lifetimes that they can remember.

I was born in 1961. According to U.S. Census estimates for 2008, there are about 100 million Americans my age or older. There are thousands and thousands of Packers fans my age (and especially a bit older) who remember several of those championships. As a boy in LaCrosse starting to learn about football in the Lombardi era, the ones in '66 and '67 are still vivid in my memory.

And the Vikes came into the league in 1961 as an expansion team. Since that time (including 1961), the Packers have won six championships, including three Super Bowls.

History? Sure. When you are a fan of a team rich in history, history is one of the things you celebrate. When you are a fan of a team with a short history, and a history of losing Super Bowls, you find ways to denigrate the history of rival teams. That's just how fans are. If I was stuck being a Queens fan, I'd be the same way, because to be a fan is to throw out logic and reason and to be loyal to the last degree.

But just to be clear, there are a zillion football fans out there who still remember the 60s. And, of course, the Packers have won a Super Bowl in your so-called "modern" era.

Anyway, again, I've always liked Favre. His ego isn't any bigger than some of the ones I've seen on this board, and regardless what team he plays on I'm sure I still will enjoy watching him play. If he plays for the Vikes and the Vikes do better than the Pack because of Favre, well, it will suck to be me. But life will go on, ya know? After all, I DO have all those Packers championships within my lifetime to remember.

Maybe after this season you Vikes fans will have a Super Bowl win to keep you warm, too. In one way I sure hope so. It'll go a long way to getting rid of that darn inferiority complex so many of you seem to carry around.

[Jim Uran]

Originally Posted By: SledNeck

Realistically the packers only have 1 championship in most fans lifetimes that they can remember.

I was born in 1961. There are probably 100 million Americans my age or older. There are thousands and thousands of Packers fans my age (and especially a bit older) who remember several of those championships.

But a good portion that age and older are a bit too senile to be trusted!!!

[Steve Foss]

But a good portion that age and older are a bit too senile to be trusted!!!

And a good portion of those younger one are so lubed up with sports testosterone that they can't see reason.

[SledNeck]

Tied with Buffalo for the worst record in Super Bowl history (0-4) is a bad run! LOL The Vikings also have the worst playoff loss in NFL history. Giants 41 Vikings 0 Keep hoping....

Why do you feel the 41-0 loss was worse than the Jags 62-7 beatdown of the Dolphins?

Can we get some packer fans in here that have even basic sports knowledge?

[Steve Foss]

Why do you feel the 41-0 loss was worse than the Jags 62-7 beatdown of the Dolphins?

Can we get some packer fans in here that have even basic sports knowledge?

THERE speaks a true Vikings fan. I gotta admire your loyalty and hormones, buddy. It's what makes a fan a fan.

[SledNeck]

It helps to know things!

I'll be in full quizmaster mode when Im at the bleacher bowl in nov. slipping around on the tears of packer fans as Favre returns to show Young Aaron how its done.

[PierBridge]

Yeah the Packlers may have Won one more Super than us in my Lifetime....but they were a 14 point favorite to win back to back Super Bowls in my LIFETIME with the NFL's best defense and Brett Favor under center.

They Choked knob that fateful Sunday and now are the LAST loser of Super Bowl Games between the 2 teams.

The word PRICELESS comes to mind!

[Steve Foss]

Yeah the Packlers may have Won one more Super than us in my Lifetime....but they were a 14 point favorite to win back to back Super Bowls in my LIFETIME with the NFL's best defense and Brett Favor under center.

They Choked knob that fateful Sunday and now are the LAST loser of Super Bowl Games between the 2 teams.

The word PRICELESS comes to mind!

Thanks, buddy. You've restated the short-sighted Vikes fan view perfectly. I guess ya gotta fight with whatever meager weapons ya got.

[SledNeck]

Vikings fans live in 2009

For packers fans time stopped in 1997

[Steve Foss]

Vikings fans live in 2009. For packers fans time stopped in 1997.

Well, I'll apply a little balance to my reply. No doubt that makes me a mediocre fan, but hopefully a somewhat reasonable man.

When you don't have any history of winning the Super Bowl, 2009 is all you have, so I totally get the Vikes fans wanting to forget all the failures and focus on this season's possibilities.

As a Packers fan, time has never stopped for me. I take that winning history and apply it optimistically to 2009, with high hopes for my team, which has some talent and a reasonable chance for a winning record and a playoff appearance.

I think, with Favre, the Vikings have a better chance than the Pack at climbing to the top.

We'll just have to see how it plays out on the field. If your Vikes beat my Packers, it'll be because they were the better team that day, and I'll acknowledge that in the open forums, just as I have before.

[Badger]

Originally Posted By: Badger

Tied with Buffalo for the worst record in Super Bowl history (0-4) is a bad run! LOL The Vikings also have the worst playoff loss in NFL history. Giants 41 Vikings 0 Keep hoping....

Why do you feel the 41-0 loss was worse than the Jags 62-7 beatdown of the Dolphins?

Can we get some packer fans in here that have even basic sports knowledge?

41-0....41-doughnut....41-zip Sorry, this was the worst beating in NFC history, not the NFL....or is it???

How about this fun fact!!!

They suffer through training camp and a seemingly-endless preseason. They slug their way through 16 regular season games. Finally, the real games — the playoffs — get underway, and before you know it, it’s time to put up the helmets and pads for another season.

Once the NFL postseason begins, only one team is going to end up happy. The rest will simply limp into the offseason wondering what might have been.

Making the playoffs is fun. Losing once you get there isn’t.

Here are the teams that have suffered that losing feeling more than others:.

1. Minnesota Vikings: 25

2. Dallas Cowboys: 24

T2. St. Louis Rams: 24

T2. New York Giants: 24

5. Cleveland Browns: 20

T5. Miami Dolphins: 20

7. Pittsburgh Steelers: 19

T7. Tennessee Titans: 19

9. Oakland Raiders: 18

T9. Indianapolis Colts: 18

T9. Philadelphia Eagles: 18

Source: 2008 NFL Record & Fact Book

[walleyes12]

It helps to know things!

I'll be in full quizmaster mode when Im at the bleacher bowl in nov. slipping around on the tears of packer fans as Favre returns to show Young Aaron how its done.

I will be there with you! Its going to fun to watch packer fans reaction when their "God" enters the field in purple!!!

[Sandmannd]

Hey, that just means they've been to the playoffs more than the pack. I'd rather at least get to the playoffs. In the 90's they were consistant with that.

[Cooter]

I'd guess it will be 26 after this year - there is no way the Vikings shouldn't make the playoffs. Getting to and winning the bowl...I predict no.

[PierBridge]

Quote:

41-0....41-doughnut....41-zip Sorry, this was the worst beating in NFC history, not the NFL....or is it???

How about this fun fact!!!

They suffer through training camp and a seemingly-endless preseason. They slug their way through 16 regular season games. Finally, the real games — the playoffs — get underway, and before you know it, it’s time to put up the helmets and pads for another season.

Once the NFL postseason begins, only one team is going to end up happy. The rest will simply limp into the offseason wondering what might have been.

Making the playoffs is fun. Losing once you get there isn’t.

Here are the teams that have suffered that losing feeling more than others:.

1. Minnesota Vikings: 25

2. Dallas Cowboys: 24

T2. St. Louis Rams: 24

T2. New York Giants: 24

5. Cleveland Browns: 20

T5. Miami Dolphins: 20

7. Pittsburgh Steelers: 19

T7. Tennessee Titans: 19

9. Oakland Raiders: 18

T9. Indianapolis Colts: 18

T9. Philadelphia Eagles: 18

Source: 2008 NFL Record & Fact Book

I guess I didn't realize the Pack was that bad..Really?

Then again I only have a couple recollections of the Packers, winning the Super bowl with Favre and the infamous and everlasting Super Bowl Loss the following year. We'll call that the FUNNEST FACT Badge!

I never thought it could get any better then that for a Viking fan, THAT Super Bowl Loss, but low and behold...............

Brett Favre is a VIKING!!!

Beyond Priceless...LOL!

[SledNeck]

41-0....41-doughnut....41-zip Sorry, this was the worst beating in NFC history, not the NFL....or is it???

How about this fun fact!!!

They suffer through training camp and a seemingly-endless preseason. They slug their way through 16 regular season games. Finally, the real games — the playoffs — get underway, and before you know it, it’s time to put up the helmets and pads for another season.

Once the NFL postseason begins, only one team is going to end up happy. The rest will simply limp into the offseason wondering what might have been.

Making the playoffs is fun. Losing once you get there isn’t.

Here are the teams that have suffered that losing feeling more than others:.

1. Minnesota Vikings: 25

2. Dallas Cowboys: 24

T2. St. Louis Rams: 24

T2. New York Giants: 24

5. Cleveland Browns: 20

T5. Miami Dolphins: 20

7. Pittsburgh Steelers: 19

T7. Tennessee Titans: 19

9. Oakland Raiders: 18

T9. Indianapolis Colts: 18

T9. Philadelphia Eagles: 18

Source: 2008 NFL Record & Fact Book

moving the goalposts now are we?