Strike Master exhaust !!

[DCON]

Just wondering what you guys with permanent houses do while drilling holes. My strike master will spit out some black crud from the muffler. Anyone use the extension that runs the exhaust directly outside?

[Eric Wettschreck]

I just keep the doors and windows open for a couple of minutes.

My strikemaster does the same thing. There are black marks all the way down my walls.

[Ronsay]

I purchased my Strike Master last season and that was my problem on the first trip to low, you could see it spitting out the exhaust when it was running.

I called Strike Master and talked to a technician who stated that all they use in there equipment is synthetic Bombardier oil mixed at 75:1.

I switched over right away and the problem was solved, the auger also runs smoother with more power. I purchased a cattle syringe at fleet to measure the oil to mix with 1 gal of gas.

Ron

[Tahoe2349]

Wish I knew that before I bought a six pack of STRIKEMASTER Smokeless oil with my auger last year at Gander!!
Mine spits the stuff out as well...
Have a half sheet of CARDBOARD I put against my walls to catch the **** ...
Looks like I'm off to get some Syn Bombardier

[Ronsay]

The name of the Bombardier Synthetic oil is (Formula XP-II)you can buy it in a 1 quart container.

70:1 is 1.82 oz, so you want just under 2 oz for 1 gal of gas. I used to have a site where you could put your ratio in a window and it would calculate the amount of oil to add, if someone knows what that site is maybe they could list it here. I believe its 1.75 oz to be exact.

You also want to use off road gas in your auger, as ethanol does not mix well with oil.

Ron

[norm]

just adding to what ronsay said regarding ethanol. it is very important to use the off-road (nonoxygenated) fuel in all of your small engines. because of all the water in ethanol, it does not mix well with oil (as stated above) and it will plug up carburetors real quick. it is extra important to use nonoxygenated fuels now that they are trying to make it 20% water instead of 10%.

[arbuck]

Where does one get off-road/non-oxygenated gas?

[Pete Riola]

There's product out there called Airplugs. It keeps your holes open for you with air pressure and a sophisticated balloon. They seem to be a nice product.

[joshb]

the non-ox, i have found at most conoco's - 92 octane, there should be a sticker on the pump stating if it is or not.

gus, i use the 100:1 mixed 80:1 in my 20 horse mariner, runs great, i have been thinking of even going to the full 100:1 because i still have a little oil goo coming out the exhaust port.

[Eric Wettschreck]

Ok, I'm not trying to stir a pot, but ya got me curious.

Why do you think ethanol has so much water in it?????

[minneman]

the way i understand it is that ethanol has less of a chance to have water in it, the nonoxy gas, would be more suseptible to water in the fuel due to no alcohol.
snowmobilers shouldnt add isopropol to ethanol gas due to the extra amount of alcohol in the fuel, but may add it to the nonoxy for drying the gas.
someone correct me if im wrong.

[iffwalleyes]

If I recall it is recommended by manufactures of 2 cycle engines not to use ethanol in the motors. I found it right from my Jiffy's motor manual "Use unleaded regular, unleaded premium or reformulated automotive fuel only." It goes on to say that it is ok to use ethanol if it is only 10% ethanol in the fuel.

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[Gus]

Amsoil makes a synthetic premix that you can mix at 100:1 or if you don't trust that mix 80:1 or more. It works great. I've been using the mix on all my two cycle motors for a year and love it. One gas can for everything. I'm about to try the mix at 80:1 for my outboard motor the next tank I run.
It does work great in the auger. No black oily mess. And you can get it in a bottle for a 5 gallon can or a little pouch for a 1 gallon can.

[norm]

I mixed up a couple words in that first post but I think I got my head on straight now

boilerguy-right now the state has a limit on how much ethanol (above I said water) can be in fuel. that limit is 10% but you will normally only find 7-8%. now they are trying to bump this limit up to 20%. this is alright to run in cars because it gets burned up right away but in small engines if it sits for awhile the oxygen in ethanol will absorb the condensation from inside the gas tank and the water and gas separate. this, in turn, make the gas "thicker" than it was originally meant to be and it will eventually gunk up carburetors. Non-oxy. fuel will not do this because of no oxygen to absorb the water.

as for where to get it, at the pump it will have a sticker that says for use in motorcycles, atv's, collector vehicles, etc.

not all "premium" grade fuel is non oxy. only if it has that sticker by it

[This message has been edited by norm (edited 10-01-2004).]

[Dan Thiem]

Thanks Norm, good to know this kind of stuff.

[Nutty Fisherman]

I have used unleaded with ethanol in all my motors,mowers and other motors. If you keep using it it will keep the water out. I have never had to add any deicer to my sleds since I got them new in 95.
Just my opinion.

[Matchman]

I've also learned that oxygenated and ethanol-added gas will tend to "varnish" your motor - especially in applications where you're changing the fuel less frequently like augers. Without some additive, typical unleaded gas will go bad in about a month. Many here have recommended using prem. unleaded with Stabil fuel stabilizer and Sea Foam cleaner. I use non-oxy with Stabil and Sea Foam, just to be safe ya know. I'm going to try running synthetic this year in my auger. I'm tired of the smoke from the so-called smokeless oil.

Match

[wallydiver]

I put some of that Amsoil in my auger mixed at 100:1. Man did I notice a difference! Not only is there less smoke but it also has a lot more SNAP to it when I hit the throttle.

[Zaraspooks]

I'm also tired of the so-called StrikeMaster Smokeless oil. Can some one tell me where I can get some of this Amsoil. It sounds like a good product and I would like to give it a try.

[spearchucker]

You can buy Amsoil at most Snowmobile shops and at Fleet Farm. Another good synthetic 2 stroke oil is Mobil 1 (Autozone carries it). The ethanol mixes with oil just fine and will not cause problems as long as you use the gas up in about 30 days. The ethanol blended fuel goes bad quicker than regular fuel because the ethanol absorbs water over time. Since I never use all the fuel up in 30 days I use the non-oxygenated premium and some Seafoam to be safe, but don't be afraid to use ethanol blended gas if you use it up quickly.

[scalescratcher]

I picked up some of the Amsoil synthetic at the ice show. Do I need to be concerned about the 100:1 ratio in my Mag III? I've heard of the improved performance and am raedy to give it a try!

[hanson]

All of this synthetic talk going on so I figured I'd try it. Hopefully I don't smoke the motor. But If I do, I have an excuse to buy a Nilsmaster!

I started running Klotz synthetic premixed in my old 73 Snojet 440 snowmobile. I can tell you that sure smoothed out that motor a lot. Plus it smells good. Klotz is very similar to Amsoil and probably just as hard to find.

So I'll be trying it out in my auger this weekend. I'm not going to have a lot of ice to go through but I'll give it a shot.