Is this a scam?

[analyzer]

So I am browsing hsolist looking for my ladder and truck that were stolen, and I come across a 95' premier 24' pontoon with 2000 50 horse 4 stroke.... for $3200.

The ad went on at 1:30 pm yesterday, and was pulled by 2:10 pm. I sent a guy an email saying I was interested and may I come look at it. He sent back the following email:

Sorry for the delay,

1995 Premier Majestic 24 Premier Pontoon Boat w. 4 Stroke Yamaha.You

should know that it has never been wrecked or damaged, the boat is in

excellent condition. All the manuals,a clear title and the original

documentation will come along with the boat. The total price that I'm

asking for the her including shipping and insurance fees will be

$3,200.(The shipping will be free because my brother in law work for DAS

and he will help me with shipping process).The boat is located in

Ephraim UT.

Some details and options:

Last serviced November 2007 with Oil Change incl. lower Unit, all

Filters and new Bottom Paint. It is in excellent running condition with

no issues. Maximum seating capacity is 16 people. One L-shaped couch

with table, one normal couch, two Swivel Captain chairs with table and

driver's double Seat/Bench with driver's consol. A lot of storage

capacity under both couches, concel and rear Sun Deck, Fold down Swim

Ladder, three gate doors for your convenience, extra Fender Holder,

Bimini Top, Ski/Tube Tow Bar, built-in Ice Box, Faucet and Sink, cup

Holder, boat cover, etc.. The upholstery and carpet is in overall good

condition.

So both can be protected, we will do this transaction under hsolist

protection, they have a vehicle purchase program who works very safe for

buyer and seller let me explain you how this works: After I will have

your full name and shipping address I wild contact hsolist and tell them

about our agreement, they will send you an email with all the payment

and shipping information that you need to purchase this boat ,they will

ask you to deposit the amount at hsolist where an hsolist agent will keep the

money safe until you will receive and inspect the boat for 5 days if you

will not be satisfy and the boat is not like I described, you will get a

full refund as soon you will place the boat under DAS shipping company

custody because shipping will be insured you will not have to pay the

shipping back to me..The inspection period starts in the moment that you

will sign that you have received the boat and it will take 5 days if in

this 5 days you will not have any complains or if you will tell hsolist

sooner that you will accept the boat, the hsolist agent will put the money

in my bank account winch I am register at hsolist .

If you are still interested and you have the money cash available,

because I need to sell the boat.I love this boat and it means a lot to

me.I am forced by a bank loan to sell it.The loan does not involved her

,but i need the money and i must do that. you need to send me your full

name and shipping address so I can start a deal with you thru hsolist you

will receive an invoice from hsolist in few hours, if you will not want to

go further with the deal you can close our transaction anytime just

email me and tell me and I will look for another buyer.

Thank you,

Richard

So, I take a look.... It's not advertised anywhere on hsolist, it's not advertised anywhere on hsolist in UTAH, and there's no lake in ephraim UTAH.

Sounds fishy to me. I think it's either stolen, or it doesn't exist and he's just playing a game.

1. why don't you advertise on hsolist?

2. Why advertise in MN but not in UTAH?

3. why did you pull your ad so quickly?

and, he's clearly not american, or at least speaks very poor english.

What do you think?

[deadminnowcatcher]

scam

[john.wells]

Classic scam.

[analyzer]

I wouldn't be surpised if RICHARD doesn't even reside in the US. He probably found a couple of pictures of a pontoon, and posts them only long enough to find a sucker, then pulls em.

[RiverBassGuy]

I'm thinkin scam, you're smart to be cautious on this one!

[tigerbalm2424]

I like the one about 2006 Ranger Commanche for $5800 that is in a shipping dock waiting to be shipped. If you do a hsolist search on google for it you will see that a bunch of people actually believe its possibly real.

Personally, I like to toy with the sellers/Scammers. I contacted this guy and said I wanted to buy it. He told me it was located in New York at a shipping/freight house and sent a pic and said it was current condition. I told him I had cash and was in route to pick it up with my truck. Then he told me it was in a container. So i told him I would open it up and take it out. Then he told me that it had been shipped to another freight house in CA due to shipping container storage capacities at the New York location.

I just like to see how some of these yahoos respond when they think you really will pay them.

[AaronM]

 Originally Posted By: analyzer

we will do this transaction under hsolist

protection, they have a vehicle purchase program who works very safe for

buyer and seller let me explain you how this works: After I will have

your full name and shipping address I wild contact hsolist and tell them

about our agreement, they will send you an email with all the payment

and shipping information that you need to purchase this boat ,they will

ask you to deposit the amount at hsolist where an hsolist agent will keep the

money safe until you will receive and inspect the boat for 5 days if you

hsolist doesn't have services like that

[Sandmannd]

The only way he could do this under hsolist is if he posted it there and then you went and bought it from him through hsolist. These people tick me off and they are all over craig's list. I posted a laptop for sale and had people saying I will send you 400 more than you are asking to ship it to Australia. Not happening. I tell them to send me their name and US addy and I'll have the cops check it out if they are that interested. Then I never hear from them again.

[The Grebe]

Sounds good to me! I'am so there! I wonder if the seller has any bridges they want to throw in?

[Central Bassman]

Yea that is a Scam!!! Sorry to hear about your truck dude!!!

[bassNspear]

i would think its a scam as well.

[jwhjr]

Definitely a scam. "hsolist will send you the information where to deposit the money..." Nice try

[DTro]

LOL

Read this Analyzer:

http://www.fishingminnesota.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1176948#Post1176948

[DeanoB]

I'm with TigerBalm on this one, you gotta play it up and mess with em! call him up say you'r on the way with a semi specific for haiuling pontoons across the nation etc etc.

[SJU70]

I'll one up that. My uncle found a picture of his friends boat, he knew it was his friends because of the garage and house in the background, and called him and asked him if he was selling it, and if he was, why would he sell it at half the value? Turns out it was someone who snapped a photo and tries to run a scam.

[analyzer]

That's really strange dtro... gotta be the same guy.

[DrKen]

there is a large contingent of people, often out of Africa(Nigeria and kenya are well known areas) working out of internet cafe's constantly running these scams. If it seems too good to be true, does not have a local contact number and pay attention to wording as they do not have quite the correct usage and syntax it is likely a scam. As you cruise craig's list they show up constantly, the same pix used many times and email addresses at AOL or some other similar non ISP address. Always someone trying to scam you or steal your stuff. Sucks.

[Day Dreamer]

I work in bank fraud and have seen many customers/comsumers fall for scams when searching for bargins. Some things to consider, if it's too good to be true--it's a scam. There are good deals out there, however,good common sense will tell you if have a bargin.

Buy locally and inspect the item before buying. Most fraud occurs online when items aren't expected before buying. Use common sense,when paying for merchandise that your relying on pictures seen on the internet. Especially, when sending money to someone you have never met.

[vikingmeatwad]

scamdogs. Anything too good to be true is.

Deal local and NEVER send a wire transfer

[GoFish4]

It is a scam, I have seen them from trucks/boats/dogs ect. They send you the payment info, send them some cash and by the time you figure out the Cashier Check is conterfit you have no way to get your money back and you are the one out the cash and product. Buy local or see the item first