Vikings-Matt Schaub Trade Rumors

[JIvers]

CNNSI.com's Rumors section reported today that the Vikings have entered into serious discussion with the Atlanta Falcons concerning a trade for Falcons back-up QB Matt Schaub.

My take is that this rumor is just that--a rumor. Not that I would mind seeing Schaub in Minnesota for the right price, but given his rising stock (the Jets are also interested in Schaub), I wonder what the asking price would be. I don't doubt that the Vikings have inquired about Schaub, but I am skeptical about trading away too much for one player (see the Herschel Walker abomination). If the Falcons were really smart, they would make Michael Vick a Marshall Faulk-type halfback/receiver and put Schaub at QB, but way too many dollars are tied up in Vick for that to happen.

[nofishfisherman]

I would like him for the right price. Maybe send your 2nd and 3rd round picks you got from C-pep and Burleson and see if that works.

Atlanta will lose him next year anyways, its in there best interest to get something for him this year instead of nothing next year.

[james_walleye]

I dont think its just a rumor. I've read in many places that the vikings have been in talks. With the picks the vikings have available this year i dont have a problem with them using too get Schaub. I still stand firm that he is the best QB on that falcon squad. I say go get him, hes only 24 and has shown alot of promise.

[Down to Earth]

I would think they would need to offer the first round pick to get him. Which if it was I don't think it would be too much.

Also next year he would only be a restricted free agent, so Atlanta would always have the opportunity to match. Course some team could always pull a Vikings move and insert a poison pill clause. If Atlanta wouldn't match they'd get a 3rd rounder in return.

[lawdog]

I don't think you'd get a first rounder for Schaub. We couldn't muster out a first round choice for Randy Moss, the most dangerous reciever in the game or Culpepper who some think is so good too. How can a back up QB garner more than Moss? I don't see it. I'd give a second and a lower choice or lesser player for him though...

[Archery 1]

Hey dudes,

I think this Schaub would be a good QB. But don't give up your 1st rounder for him. He has no value compared to Moss and DC. Those guys are proven whare Schaub is not he

has potential. Maybe try to move up in the Draft to get AJ

Hawk for your cover two defense.

[TNFL]

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Also next year he would only be a restricted free agent, so Atlanta would always have the opportunity to match. Course some team could always pull a Vikings move and insert a poison pill clause. If Atlanta wouldn't match they'd get a 3rd rounder in return.

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Thats not entirely correct. It depends on the original tender the Falcons offer him. If they tender him the maximum amount, a team would have to give up a first round pick anyways to sign him as a restricted free agent.

[nofishfisherman]

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I don't think you'd get a first rounder for Schaub. We couldn't muster out a first round choice for Randy Moss

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Actually the vikes got the 7th overall pick in the draft plus Napolean Harris for Randy Moss.

[eskay]

Atlanta has a history of trading away good backup QBs. Anyone remember the Favre deal.

And by the way, just because I now live in WI, doesn't mean I'm a packer fan. Got my Vikes season tickets for the second year. Now if I could just get these WI plates off my car, maybe they wouldn't charge me $40.00 to park!

[nofishfisherman]

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Atlanta has a history of trading away good backup QBs. Anyone remember the Favre deal

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True, but they got a first round pick for favre. I believe the 14th overall.

[Down to Earth]

I guess one point I was making on offering the first is looking at this years draft and how do you compare the value of Schaub to that of either Leinhart, Young, or Cutler? Would you hesitate picking either of the 3 rookies at 17? If you feel Schaub is as good or better prospect than either of them it really wouldn't be too much to offer. And are either of the 3 that much better of a prospect in that would be willing to give up additional 1st day picks to obtain them instead of Schaub? Just some things to think about.

Obviously Atlanta is in the drivers seat with this situation, regardless of who is inquiring about Schaub. They know he's desired, but on the other hand he has quite a bit of value on their team with Vick out on the field, as he could be out there on the next play anytime.

[nofishfisherman]

Down to Earth,

your take is pretty similar to mine. You have to look at what you would use that #17 pick on and then decide if Schaub is better or worse then the player you would have selected. If Schaub is better then trade the pick away.

The problem seems to be that Atlanta is asking for the first round pick and a third round pick which is way to much for a QB that is yet farily unproven. If you get a first rounder and a player for Randy Moss how can you get a first and a thrid rounder for a backup QB?

Atlanta may make Schaub to expensive and then they will just lose him next year anyways and they either risk only getting a third round pick for him or they might tender him a first round offer which if no one offers something more then Atlanta would keep Schaub but they would pay him huge money.

[fishyguy]

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If you get a first rounder and a player for Randy Moss how can you get a first and a thrid rounder for a backup QB?

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I agree with pretty much everything you said except the quote above. I have read a couple of responses where people have used the Daunte and Moss trades as comparatives which I don't think works. Had Moss and Daunte not had baggage, been coming off injuries or created situations to remove the Vikes leverage we would have recieved much more. The only thing shining as bright as Schaubs future is his image, as it stands now. Those things combined may very well make his value much higher than Duante's.

Regardless of viewpoints I think we are all in agreement that Schaub would look good with his hands between Birk's legs in the future.

[river rat316]

LOL that might be the funniest thing Ive read here in along time

I say go get him, I think he's leagues ahead of any QB that we can get in the draft or Free Agency, with the extra picks we have we might as well

[cybermuskie]

Package up a few 3rd's or a 2nd and two 3rd's but don't throw the 1st rd'er at them. He looked good in a couple games. Heck Todd Bouman looked good in a couple games! It's not worth the risk to give up a 1st round pick for a back-up QB! If they are wrong about him it could screw the team for years to come. But hey that's just my thoughts!

[DTro]

Here's an interesting take.

At the end of last season the coaches were polled and asked what QB they would most want to build a franchise around. Schaub was in the top 10. I think that says A LOT.

Pick him up.....he's ready to go....now.

[james_walleye]

Im on the opposite of cybermuskie. My thoughts are if you were entertaining thoughts of using a 2nd or 3rd round pick too move up in the draft too get one of the "big 3" QB's" than Matt Schaub looks like a pretty good deal. Why would you use a 1st and a 3rd round pick on a guy whos never played a down in the NFL when you could just use your first round pick basically too get Matt Schaub who is only 24 and has looked good in a few starts already. The only reason he is the backup in Atlanta is because there is no way they will sit down Michael Vick because he draws in $$. He is way less of a risk than any of the 3 QB's coming out, none of them have played a down! There has too be some thoughts about your future franchise QB and he is sitting right there in Atlanta. And he could step in and play right now, no waiting around like you would for one of the rookies. The biggest thing is still that you could get him for just a 1st round pick instead of using your first and a 3rd round pick for someone whos never played a down.

[DTro]

yeah, too bad we didn't trade up for

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or Akili Smi...

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[cybermuskie]

Here's why you don't give up a 1st rounder for him....They want more! NO DEAL!

From Fanball:

04/05 18:29 Falcons: Schaub worth more than first-rounder

THE NEWS

The Falcons said Wednesday that while they are still willing to trade backup quarterback Matt Schaub, they would seek more than a first-round draft pick as compensation, ESPN reported.

Our View

The Vikings are the latest team to show interest in Schaub, who stock is remarkably high for a player who has thrown just five touchdowns and four interceptions in two professional seasons. The Vikiings currently hold the 17th overall pick in the NFL Draft, but have not made an official offer as of yet.

[NAPAFISH]

Dtro you sound like the "common man"

[Havin' Fun]

Another reality of the draft versus a veteran is what you pay to sign the player. I believe that cost is very much a significant factor. I don't know what Schaub would cost in the long run, especially if we make a commitment to him, which I believe we would have too. If that commitment could be resonable, I think a first round offer is reasonable. HOWEVER, if it's a 5 year 50 million deal with 20 million gaurenteed, I think we have problems. More so than any other leauge, the NFL creates problems because of its contracts. Essentially, who ever trades for Schaube, better sure as well sign him to a long term deal, however not for the money the Falcons believe he will get!! This is the Vikings and other teams dilema!

[james_walleye]

Hmmmmm, i read somewhere today and was told by someone else who had heard that if the vikings gave up a 1st rounder it was a done deal. I guess it all depends on how much, but i say if they take #17 than take it. When it comes down too it the falcons know if they dont take a trade now than a year from now hes a free agent and hes not going too hang around too be a back-up anymore. The longer this goes on the more the falcons will have too give in i would think.

[DTro]

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Dtro you sound like the "common man"

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yeah, I straight up, ripped off that bit

[Down to Earth]

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Dtro you sound like the "common man"

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yeah, I straight up, ripped off that bit

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Now it sounds like your ripping off PA & DuBay. You must be a KFAN junkie.

[DTro]

No not really, just catch a little piece of each of their shows every day eating my lunch. Actually I could give or take Common, but I gotta admit, he makes me laugh out loud sometimes. For example, the bit with the announcer and Brad Radke is classic stuff. I was in tears today when they replayed that.